Man, if one of my lines failed and impacted this many people I’d go to jail. Why the hell do we allow this. This line would score pretty damn high on the old risk matrix on the consequence side. Imagine if this was a gas line? CEO would be lynched. But it’s water so whatevs.
In the risk matrix it doesn’t end up very high though. You don’t kill anyone, it’s just water so environmental damage is low, you don’t really sell water so financial impact is negligible, cost to repair is a little more but doing NDE to avoid these incidents would be costly, so you are left with reputation which again doesn’t really matter when you have a monopoly. Sounds like a 2, not moving the needle.
I think the old risk matrix is why this type of event happens.
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Gondek literally just said Outdoor is the only true "no-go" but showers etc. are "strongly" recommended against for the time being.
Curious to see if we see much usage drop by homeowners. I WFH so I can be as greasy as I want but I'm sure most suckers that have to go into the office today did not/will not forgo.
Gondek literally just said Outdoor is the only true "no-go" but showers etc. are "strongly" recommended against for the time being.
Curious to see if we see much usage drop by homeowners. I WFH so I can be as greasy as I want but I'm sure most suckers that have to go into the office today did not/will not forgo.
I imagine a large percentage didn’t even know about it till after they showered and used the water this am.
I got up early enough to beat the advisory and had already showered so I don't have this conundrum, but if I'm honest I would probably have taken a quick one regardless.
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I imagine a large percentage didn’t even know about it till after they showered and used the water this am.
I literally got out of the shower to see the alert, so yeah, all the thousands of people that get to work at 7:30 or earlier likely went about their business as normal.
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I hate to tell you this, but I’ve just launched an air biscuit
God-damned pinkos at Silly Hall can screw themselves if they think us southsiders oughtta share our water with those miscreants up north! *shakes fist*
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In the risk matrix it doesn’t end up very high though. You don’t kill anyone, it’s just water so environmental damage is low, you don’t really sell water so financial impact is negligible, cost to repair is a little more but doing NDE to avoid these incidents would be costly, so you are left with reputation which again doesn’t really matter when you have a monopoly. Sounds like a 2, not moving the needle.
I think the old risk matrix is why this type of event happens.
And the AER would crucify you with this thinking. It would not be a low. Financial impact is huge. Tough to quantify but huge. It’s no one’s fault other than budgeting. We had a failure due to gravity. Didn’t impact anyone, just a fart of gas before esds kicked in. We now do geotechnical assessments of any line in a slope, drone mapping, depth of cover. Pinned to the wall because of a design flaw 40 years ago. Pipe fails and the entire city gets emergency texts, that keeps me up at night if I was the person responsible.2 not a chance 2.
God-damned pinkos at Silly Hall can screw themselves if they think us southsiders oughtta share our water with those miscreants up north! *shakes fist*
Where once it was latte sippers vs. Yop gobblers, it is now Southies vs Northies.
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I know enough about the line in question to know that it's a biiiiig ####ing feeder main; several feet in diameter. I didn't know it had been leaking since last night...
I bet we'll never know, but I wonder if the emergency alert went out because at this point, half a day later, the waterworks team couldn't get it fixed so to get it done ASAP they reckoned they'd hit the proverbial nuclear button and shut distribution from Bearspaw off entirely. Gnarly, if so.
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City wide alert tells me that this break is significant enough and will probably take a while to fix resulting in water being redirected (is that possible?) from the Glenmore for the whole city now.
At least that’s my take as an armchair expert
That's not the Timun way of doing things though. He is one of our foremost experts.
I know enough about the line in question to know that it's a biiiiig ####ing feeder main; several feet in diameter. I didn't know it had been leaking since last night...
I bet we'll never know, but I wonder if the emergency alert went out because at this point, half a day later, the waterworks team couldn't get it fixed so to get it done ASAP they reckoned they'd hit the proverbial nuclear button and shut distribution from Bearspaw off entirely. Gnarly, if so.
"Leaking" seems generous. The picture of shouldice looked like a lake.
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Looks like you'll need one long before I will. May I suggest deflection king?
I know enough about the line in question to know that it's a biiiiig ####ing feeder main; several feet in diameter. I didn't know it had been leaking since last night...
I bet we'll never know, but I wonder if the emergency alert went out because at this point, half a day later, the waterworks team couldn't get it fixed so to get it done ASAP they reckoned they'd hit the proverbial nuclear button and shut distribution from Bearspaw off entirely. Gnarly, if so.
Do they do inspections on this big pipe? I only know pressure pipe, are small leaks just common? You probably can’t pressure test these lines, do they have inspection pigs of some sort? Just curious. Cameras? But you have to shut down for inspections.
