02-07-2019, 10:24 AM
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#21
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoho
Does Tkachuk get an offer sheet?
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This concerns me.
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02-07-2019, 10:28 AM
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#22
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoho
Does Tkachuk get an offer sheet?
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Which teams are able to and are legitimate threats of making an offer sheet?
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02-07-2019, 10:29 AM
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#23
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire
Which teams are able to and are legitimate threats of making an offer sheet?
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Sens wanting to reunite the Tkachuk brothers?
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02-07-2019, 10:30 AM
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#24
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Alberta
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
I would expect that to happen. Hopefully, he doesn’t miss much of TC, butI think this is where Treliving can exert some leverage: Tkachuk is a really smart, really observant kid. He no doubt sees how much Nylander’s holdout has affected his season; he must also sense that there is an opportunity here, now with the Flames to make a championship push. These are screws that Treliving can turn.
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I think the quality of the flames team right now would lessen any worry for him if it came to a holdout.
He'd know that the team is good enough to hold the fort until he signed.
he wouldn't have to worry about his absence putting the team in a hole.
I have no idea what he's like. if he's a "just want a chance to win" type of guy or a "I know this is a business and I have to look out for myself" kind of guy.
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02-07-2019, 10:30 AM
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#25
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Sec206
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoho
Does Tkachuk get an offer sheet?
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Sure, they all do.
But does he sign it? Doubtful.
And the Flames match whatever it is regardless.
He may use it for valuation at best.
So who cares?
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02-07-2019, 10:31 AM
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#26
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: North America
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Quick reference in offer sheet compensation
$1,339,575 or less No compensation
$1,339,576 to $2,029,659 Third-round pick
$2,029,660 to $4,059,322 Second-round pick
$4,059,323 to $6,088,980 First and third-round picks
$6,088,981 to $8,118,641 First, second and third-round picks
$8,118,642 to $10,148,302 Two firsts, a second and third-round picks
Over $10,148,302 Four first-round picks
Last edited by Yoho; 02-07-2019 at 10:34 AM.
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02-07-2019, 10:32 AM
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#27
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
Sens wanting to reunite the Tkachuk brothers?
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The Sens would first need to reacquire their 1st round pick from Colorado to make that happen.
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02-07-2019, 10:32 AM
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#28
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
Sens wanting to reunite the Tkachuk brothers?
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The owner is not willing to pay up for Stone or Duchene as of yet, but he is willing to pay $10mill+ to offer sheet Tkachuk. It would ruin their supposed rebuild. If I was the Flames I would let them have him and take the draft picks. They would most likely be very high.
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02-07-2019, 10:32 AM
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#29
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wins 10 internets
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: slightly to the left
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
Sens wanting to reunite the Tkachuk brothers?
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If that tire fire offers you 4 1st's for Tkachuk you take it and laugh all the way to the draft
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02-07-2019, 10:33 AM
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#30
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matty81
Rare major misstep by Treliving not getting this deal done last summer when the media was saying it was close. That said he's done amazing on every other deal he's signed excepting Neal so tough to be too hard on him.
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Hardly a misstep. Brad would have signed him if he could. Why would the player sign last year? There was no logical reason for him to do so.
If Tkachuk's agent was doing his job, which he clearly is, then he waits until this summer.
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02-07-2019, 10:33 AM
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#31
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
The Sens would first need to reacquire their 1st round pick from Colorado to make that happen.
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Don’t the Avs have this years pick? Or do they have 2020s as well?
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02-07-2019, 10:34 AM
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#32
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoho
Quick reference in offer sheet compensation
$1,339,575 or less No compensation
$1,339,576 to $2,029,659 Third-round pick
$2,029,660 to $4,059,322 Second-round pick
$4,059,323 to $6,088,980 First and third-round picks
$6,088,981 to $8,118,641 First, second and third-round picks
$8,118,642 to $10,148,302 Two firsts, a second and third-round picks
Over $10,148,302 Four first-round picks
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I'd give up that for him, but at those numbers, the flames would match in a heartbeat.
so what team has the assets to give up two firsts, a second, and a third, plus take on a $10 million contract?
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02-07-2019, 10:35 AM
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#33
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire
The owner is not willing to pay up for Stone or Duchene as of yet, but he is willing to pay $10mill+ to offer sheet Tkachuk. It would ruin their supposed rebuild. If I was the Flames I would let them have him and take the draft picks. They would most likely be very high.
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He just said yesterday they want to be a cap team after two years. Going after a young star forward doesn’t seem that crazy.
But I agree, I’d take the picks if the offer sheet was high enough.
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02-07-2019, 10:35 AM
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#34
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
Don’t the Avs have this years pick? Or do they have 2020s as well?
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Right, compensation would be as of next year's draft.
D'oh.
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02-07-2019, 10:37 AM
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#35
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire
The owner is not willing to pay up for Stone or Duchene as of yet, but he is willing to pay $10mill+ to offer sheet Tkachuk. It would ruin their supposed rebuild. If I was the Flames I would let them have him and take the draft picks. They would most likely be very high.
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Im not convinced that is the case at this point as i think its far more about the players buying into and sticking around for the rebuild vs just dollars. Its why Melnyk went full public on their "plans" last night at the STH thing. Desperation has settled in there.
As for MT, he bridges at 6.5 for 3 or goes 9+ for 6 is my guess.
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02-07-2019, 10:40 AM
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#1 Goaltender
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Sens are probably the least threatening team in terms of offer sheets. Remember the player has to actually want to sign it. Also their draft picks are probably going to be lottery picks even if they add a good young player.
A scary team would be St Louis since they aren’t as bad of a team and Tkachuk may actually prefer playing there.
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02-07-2019, 10:40 AM
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#37
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First Line Centre
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I see this going well into the season. Having Johnny, Mony, Lindholm as a top line, then Backlund and guys like Neal and Bennett mean that the team can likely float for a while without him. And his dad’s history. These comments don’t exactly add more information in my mind.
I wonder how his position on the second line plays into it. Facing more difficult competition, worse zone starts, and worse linemates. The only real drawback is the ‘Backlund effect’ but that’s tough to use as hard leverage in negotiations.
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02-07-2019, 10:43 AM
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#38
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Sec206
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GordonBlue
I'd give up that for him, but at those numbers, the flames would match in a heartbeat.
so what team has the assets to give up two firsts, a second, and a third, plus take on a $10 million contract?
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So at the trade deadline you'd be ok to trade Chucky for a 1st/2nd/3rd?
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02-07-2019, 10:44 AM
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#39
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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Tkachuk saying what he has to, and what he should say.
Also seemed a little uncomfortable with the topic - but nothing really game changing was said at all.
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02-07-2019, 10:46 AM
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#40
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire
Which teams are able to and are legitimate threats of making an offer sheet?
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Colorado as well.
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