Thoughts on Rasmus Andersson's season and his future here

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Freddy

My own purely speculation is that Rasmus has been playing through some sort of injury or 2 and that he’ll be getting surgery once the season is over. He’ll be better next season again.

Frankly he hasn't been the same since the Detroit incident. Like, he's been good for the most part but the lights defitely been dimmed from where he was at performance wise prior to the incident.

[ForeverFlameFan]

The minute Hanifin was traded is the time Andersson was off limits. Sure, if the right deal came along and someone overpaid then I’m all for it. However, look at how bad the D is without Tanev and Hanifin right now. Imagine that without Andersson. Do you want to steer away the confidence of our top goalie prospect? He does need help. Andersson imo should be a Flame his whole career if possible, it’s always hard to find reliable RHD that can eat 22+ mins a game.

[the-rasta-masta]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Doesn’t have quite the offensive game we all hoped

I would say he’s surpassed expectations offensively. 50 points two years ago, 49 last year, and could get to 40 points this year still, despite reduced PP time and a lack of top end talent to pass the puck up ice to.

In the last 30 years the list of Flames defenceman who’ve had a 50 point season is pretty short. Housley, Phaneuf, Wideman, Giordano and Andersson.

[Ba'alzamon]

Originally Posted by the-rasta-masta

I would say he’s surpassed expectations offensively. 50 points two years ago, 49 last year, and could get to 40 points this year still, despite reduced PP time and a lack of top end talent to pass the puck up ice to.

In the last 30 years the list of Flames defenceman who’ve had a 50 point season is pretty short. Housley, Phaneuf, Wideman, Giordano and Andersson.

Hamilton.

[Aarongavey]

I actually think the lack of right shot dmen that might be available and are good that if a team offered a haul for Anderson the Flames should look at it. If you are looking for a right shot dman who is available via trade or UFA the list is extremely small. When you factor in the contract for the next two seasons and it is basically him that could be available, can easily play in the top 4 and has a good contract.

Losing him would really hurt an already bad group of dmen but if the return was high enough I would look at it if I was Conroy. I would really only do it if the team was drafting a dman with their first pick in this draft, because they would only have one legitimate top 4 NHL dman if they traded Rasmus.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

The team traded away 3 of their top 6 blue liners already this season. Why on earth would fans immediately put the bullseye on one of the two remaining defenseman on the roster that have top 4 pedigree? You have to keep some NHL caliber players as this organization isn't going to go the Sharks/Hawks route of icing and AHL roster in the NHL.

Agree with the rest of your post, but this is an AHL roster now.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Andersson will be here long term, I am very confident on that.

It makes me very happy to see you say this, given your connections to the organization and because I am a massive Rasmus fan. I think it was the 2020 offseason, but there was a season when he had a down year and CP was mostly down on him too (I'd guess around 75% wanted him gone), while me and a small minority continued to have faith in the guy.

Rasmus is a solid defenceman and the sort of defenceman you need to keep in the organization. He's easy to get down on for some because their expectations of him are out of whack, and they assume that someone who plays top minutes needs to get 55+ every season when he simply isn't that kind of player. There's room in the top 4 (and tremendous value) for guys who chip in here and there, can move the puck out calmly with their first pass, aren't disasters defensively and have a voice in the room. These defencemen are everywhere in the league and make their teams better.

I bet he'll come in around 6.5-7.5 AAV in 2 years (cap is going up, Calgary tax), which lines up for a 2/3 dman in his age group who produces the way he does.

Rasmus was one of my choices for captain in the offseason. I'm a big fan and have always been perplexed at why it *feels* like the majority of this board are done with the guy and would prefer he be traded.

[Goriders]

Anderson is one of the last guys I would get rid of. Good player and seems like a leader in the room.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Anderson is one of the last guys I would get rid of. Good player and seems like a leader in the room.

Are you prepared to sign him to a long term contract when his contract is over?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Are you prepared to sign him to a long term contract when his contract is over?

I think that’s what people are saying, yes.

[BigThief]

If Goriders doesn't sign him I will

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I think that’s what people are saying, yes.

Even if that is 8 years?

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Even if that is 8 years?

Yeah man, 100%. That's what I'm saying, eight years max amount that year

[Hackey]

Trade him while he still has term. We just saw what UFAs get you and it isn't great.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Hackey

Trade him while he still has term. We just saw what UFAs get you and it isn't great.

The Flames did alright. They traded Hanifin to a team that looks like it will be a bubble team in 2026 for a 2026 1st round pick unprotected, a 3rd round pick that has an outside chance to become a 2nd and a dman who looks like he will be a regular in the NHL.

They traded a 50-60 point center for a 1st round pick, a 4th round pick, one very good defensive prospect and another defensive prospect and a current NHL player who is better offensively than the one they traded away and has one year left on his contract.

They traded a 5/6 dman for a 3rd and a 5th.

And they traded a top 4 dman for a 2nd, a former 2nd and a 3rd that could become a 2nd.

Over the summer they traded a 30 goal RW for a 30 goal winger and a 3rd round pick.

I might be missing something but what you get for UFA’s seems pretty good.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

The Flames did alright. They traded Hanifin to a team that looks like it will be a bubble team in 2026 for a 2026 1st round pick unprotected, a 3rd round pick that has an outside chance to become a 2nd and a dman who looks like he will be a regular in the NHL.

They traded a 50-60 point center for a 1st round pick, a 4th round pick, one very good defensive prospect and another defensive prospect and a current NHL player who is better offensively than the one they traded away and has one year left on his contract.

They traded a 5/6 dman for a 3rd and a 5th.

And they traded a top 4 dman for a 2nd, a former 2nd and a 3rd that could become a 2nd.

Over the summer they traded a 30 goal RW for a 30 goal winger and a 3rd round pick.

I might be missing something but what you get for UFA’s seems pretty good.

It can get you a bunch if quantity, but the jury is still out as how much quality they got.

That’s the nature of rentals.

Trading players with term may get you some actual quality.

Now, the hope is that some of the quantity may get you some quality. But that’s not certain.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Are you prepared to sign him to a long term contract when his contract is over?

Why wouldn’t you if you wanted to keep him. Of course.

Would you want to perpetuate the Flames as an undesirable place to play. This season and the previous have set them on that trajectory. They better start dealing with that if they want to be a cup contender. To think they are going to get there strictly through intentionally being uncompetitive and drafting high is laughable. They are going to need free agents and to retain their current talent as well.

We are becoming Buffalo west

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Why wouldn’t you if you wanted to keep him. Of course.

Would you want to perpetuate the Flames as an undesirable place to play. This season and the previous have set them on that trajectory. They better start dealing with that if they want to be a cup contender. To think they are going to get there strictly through intentionally being uncompetitive and drafting high is laughable. They are going to need free agents and to retain their current talent as well.

We are becoming Buffalo west

My problem with signing him to an 8 year contract is that he will be 30 years old when his contract starts. I guess we’ll see how he ages in the next two years. I think you may need to plug your nose and extend players when you are in your contention window even though those contracts may not age well. But I don’t think Calgary will be in any kind of contention window in two years. I just think it would be better asset management to trade him rather than extend him.

[TheScorpion]

I think extending Andersson would be a mistake.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Why wouldn’t you if you wanted to keep him. Of course.

Would you want to perpetuate the Flames as an undesirable place to play. This season and the previous have set them on that trajectory. They better start dealing with that if they want to be a cup contender. To think they are going to get there strictly through intentionally being uncompetitive and drafting high is laughable. They are going to need free agents and to retain their current talent as well.

We are becoming Buffalo west

Having a 38-year-old Rasmus Andersson will certainly prevent that.