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02-26-2014, 08:52 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Hans Solo?!
Personally I'm still watching because I still care what happens to the characters, notably Rick and sort of Darryl. I kind of hope someone shoots Glen at some point, also. But I will certainly say that the acting and writing are getting worse and worse. "Trust me I'm smarter than you" was a particularly poorly delivered line.
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02-26-2014, 08:53 AM
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#3962
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Lifetime Suspension
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To be fair, most of what you just mentioned is from a sitcom or comedy.
Maybe Walking Dead IS a comedy. That would change my entire perspective. Just a really dry comedy.
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02-26-2014, 08:57 AM
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#3963
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by strombad
To be fair, most of what you just mentioned is from a sitcom or comedy.
Maybe Walking Dead IS a comedy. That would change my entire perspective. Just a really dry comedy.
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And there's the rub.
The Walking Dead is a comedy masquerading as a Drama.
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02-26-2014, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 19Yzerman19
HansSolo?!
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Hahaha, funny that my iphone corrected that to Hans but felt parsec was just fine lol
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02-26-2014, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
And there's the rub.
The Walking Dead is a comedy masquerading as a Drama.
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I never saw it as a Drama, if you did than you might be doing it wrong, IMO.
There are plenty of other TV shows that require the suspension of disbelief. I see tonnes of problems with the show, but decide to look past them so I can turn my brain off for 1 hour on Sunday night.
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02-26-2014, 09:18 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Diemenz
Hahaha, funny that my iphone corrected that to Hans but felt parsec was just fine lol
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Hans Solo sounds like the the root of a hilarious SNL sketch.
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02-26-2014, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Diemenz
Hahaha, funny that my iphone corrected that to Hans but felt parsec was just fine lol
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Why exactly do you find it odd that your phone thought a correctly spelled word was just fine?
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02-26-2014, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz
Why exactly do you find it odd that your phone thougth a correctly spelled word was just fine?
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I must be tired, this made me laugh.
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02-26-2014, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
Hans Solo sounds like the the root of a hilarious SNL sketch.
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Yes, after Franz's testicles implode and kill him from the decades of steroid abuse.
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02-26-2014, 10:09 AM
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i must be tired, this made me laugh.
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damnit!
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02-26-2014, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Diemenz
I know right? It's like Hans solo making the Kessel Run in under 12 parsecs when it's widely know that the smugglers run is at least 18 parsecs.
I think some people need to switch to the documentary or history channel if they can't handle watching fictional TV. Costanza working for the Yankees? Ross getting a girl like Rachel? An army base filled with practical jokers who never see battle? James T Kirk never getting a space STD?
Fictional tv is just that, fiction. It's meant to take you away from reality and it does so by creating unreal situations and events. Well I do agree with your points on the useless suspense and character building Arguing about the validity of accuracy on a TV show about zombies is comical.
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You should take a look at the definition of Fiction as "theoretical" is one of the words it covers. There's nothing theoretical about being able to pick off zombie heads with sharp shooter precision. I do understand they don't have the time to make some of these encounters realistic but it would be nice to see a character miss a head shot a few times and have to repeat rather than pull it off easier than you could do it in a COD game. Suspense is based of the belief that the danger is real and having every person in a group have professional shooting skills is so eye rolling that it kind of takes away from the suspense.
You don't have to agree with me but to call my criticism comical is off base as it's you that's defending a comical show while I am merely pointing at some nagging flaws. Like I said I like the show but that's despite all it's flaws and it's like some of you believe since it's a show about zombies it's above criticism.
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02-26-2014, 10:30 AM
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You should take a look at the definition of Fiction as theoretical is one of the words covered. There's nothing theoretical about being able to pick off zombie heads with sharp shooter precision. I do understand they don't have the time to make some of these encounters realistic but it would be nice to see a character miss a head shot a few times and have to repeat rather than pull it off easier than you could do it in a COD game. Suspense is based of the belief that the danger is real and having every person in a group have professional shooting skills is so eye rolling that it kind of takes away from the suspense.
You don't have to agree with me but to call my criticism comical is off base as it's you that's defending a comical show while I am merely pointing at some nagging flaws. Like I said I like the show but that's despite all it's flaws and it's like some of you believe since it has zombies it's above criticism.
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02-26-2014, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
You should take a look at the definition of Fiction as "theoretical" is one of the words it covers. There's nothing theoretical about being able to pick off zombie heads with sharp shooter precision. I do understand they don't have the time to make some of these encounters realistic but it would be nice to see a character miss a head shot a few times and have to repeat rather than pull it off easier than you could do it in a COD game. Suspense is based of the belief that the danger is real and having every person in a group have professional shooting skills is so eye rolling that it kind of takes away from the suspense.
You don't have to agree with me but to call my criticism comical is off base as it's you that's defending a comical show while I am merely pointing at some nagging flaws. Like I said I like the show but that's despite all it's flaws and it's like some of you believe since it's a show about zombies it's above criticism.
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I'm not defending the show in the slightest. I am only commenting on people having a need for real world accuracy in a zombie tv show.
Theoretical fiction? One would be hard pressed to argue Walking dead falls into that category.
Realistic fiction/ theoretical fiction (definition : although untrue could actually happen, may actually involve real people and real places)
Non-realistic fiction/imaginary fiction (def: create a rhetoric of realism that invites the viewer to suspend ones belief of real world details in favor of the narratives imaginary world)
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02-26-2014, 01:53 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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I read somewhere else that a bunch of people were talking and ticked off about the corn fields after a year and a half saying "Those fields wouldn't be that big after all that time!"
Oh, but you can buy the actual zombies walking out of the fields though, right?
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02-26-2014, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Igster
I read somewhere else that a bunch of people were talking and ticked off about the corn fields after a year and a half saying "Those fields wouldn't be that big after all that time!"
Oh, but you can buy the actual zombies walking out of the fields though, right?

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It's the attention to detail (or lack thereof) that bothers me. It's been over a year since the zombie apocalypse started, yet every house they run into looks like it was just abandoned yesterday. Nothing covered in dust, ample supplies to be found, outside yards looking well maintained. I get that they have a small budget to work with, but seeing stuff like that completely removes me from the show
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02-26-2014, 03:24 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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It's mostly budget I would say. If it was a 2 hour movie, then fine, I get your points, but an ongoing series? None of it has ever been based in reality and I doubt it will ever change. I just choose to not sweat the small stuff like that and just enjoy the show for what it is.
It's either that or we could all get stuck watching more things like The Blacklist or CSI.
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02-26-2014, 03:46 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Igster
It's mostly budget I would say. If it was a 2 hour movie, then fine, I get your points, but an ongoing series? None of it has ever been based in reality and I doubt it will ever change. I just choose to not sweat the small stuff like that and just enjoy the show for what it is.
It's either that or we could all get stuck watching more things like The Blacklist or CSI.
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or Breaking Bad... or True Detective...
Walking Dead isn't much better than CSI, it's just more original
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02-26-2014, 03:48 PM
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#3978
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by strombad
Walking Dead isn't much better than CSI, it's just more original
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Disagree. It's nowhere near as formulated and isn't wrapped up each week. How often do main characters get killed off on a primetime show as well?
My wife still watches a ton of those shows like The Blacklist and CSI. I've given up on just about all of them for shows like The Walking Dead, American Horror Story, True Detective and a few others. The Walking Dead may not be perfect, but it is waaay better than regular primetime, formulated TV.
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02-26-2014, 04:48 PM
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At least it doesn't star Ted Danson. Like seriously, Ted Danson as the head CSI guy? Give me a break.
Oh and Elizabeth Shue might be the worst actor of all time. Just try and watch 5 minutes of that show without laughing at her horrendous performance.
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02-26-2014, 04:58 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Igster
Disagree. It's nowhere near as formulated and isn't wrapped up each week. How often do main characters get killed off on a primetime show as well?
My wife still watches a ton of those shows like The Blacklist and CSI. I've given up on just about all of them for shows like The Walking Dead, American Horror Story, True Detective and a few others. The Walking Dead may not be perfect, but it is waaay better than regular primetime, formulated TV.
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What you're describing are different show formats. You prefer something in a more serial format, vs. something more episodic, that's fine, but that has nothing to do with the actual quality of the show.
Quality wise (writing, technical mumbo jumbo, etc) they're hardly different.
I'm pretty firmly of the opinion that Walking Dead isn't much better than anything on network television. It's even been said here repeatedly: "Guilty pleasure" and "An hour to turn my brain off." That's great, but plenty of network television shows match that sort of quality easily. Walking Dead is extremely formulaic, which isn't really it's fault, the comics are the exact same way. The same stories are repeated season after season.
Just my opinion though. Walking Dead isn't markedly better than a lot of stuff on network television. Perhaps it occupies an area of quality between the upper level HBO type of stuff, and the standard network television fair, but it's not much better than stuff on NBC or ABC or whatever. My wife watches CSI as well, and I just don't see much of a difference quality wise. One has zombies. Cool.
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