12-10-2024, 10:29 PM
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#3881
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
Big, good skater, skilled and a strong worth ethic
Sounds like good attributes for a second line centre to me
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Probably wouldn’t be on the market if he had a good worth ethic. Big good skating right shot players aren’t traded unless they have serious warts. His underlying numbers seem to confirm that.
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12-10-2024, 10:54 PM
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#3882
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Eichel is a far better player now than he ever was in Buffalo
If you can get Cozens you do it
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If it costs you a first? Why not just be patient and ya know, draft your own? Get a player 5 years younger, who you can develop yourself.
Impatience in building a new core will undo this team. Just be patient, draft and develop our own.
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12-10-2024, 11:00 PM
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#3883
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
If it costs you a first? Why not just be patient and ya know, draft your own? Get a player 5 years younger, who you can develop yourself.
Impatience in building a new core will undo this team. Just be patient, draft and develop our own.
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Depends on the pick
What are the chances you get a player of that quality in the late 20s?
All avenues to acquire young core players should be on the table
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12-10-2024, 11:02 PM
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#3884
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Back in Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
If it costs you a first? Why not just be patient and ya know, draft your own? Get a player 5 years younger, who you can develop yourself.
Impatience in building a new core will undo this team. Just be patient, draft and develop our own.
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Maybe they think Cozens is greater than what they think a late first might get them?
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12-10-2024, 11:06 PM
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#3885
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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No disrespect to you Paulie (I think we agree on most things), but I'm with Jiri and others in the Cozens crowd- I think he just needs to get the hell out of there, and he will find his game, even if it's not with us.
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12-10-2024, 11:06 PM
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#3886
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
Depends on the pick
What are the chances you get a player of that quality in the late 20s?
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I think part of being patient is also the maximizing of the Flames own 1st round pick. I believe sequencing is an important part of team building. Adding Dylan Cozens now won’t turn this team into a contender, but it very likely contributes to a better overall position in the standings (or at least that’s part of the reasoning in why you’d do that sort of trade), and that could easily be the difference between drafting 8th rather than 4th, or 12th rather than 9th etc.
I think that matters. It decreases the odds of drafting the type of impact players I think we so desperately need.
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12-10-2024, 11:07 PM
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#3887
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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I am gonna put a prediction in here: Walker Duehr returns more than Andrei Kuzmenko at the TDL.
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12-10-2024, 11:19 PM
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#3888
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
I am gonna put a prediction in here: Walker Duehr returns more than Andrei Kuzmenko at the TDL.
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You think they'll trade Duehr?
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12-10-2024, 11:25 PM
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#3889
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandman
You think they'll trade Duehr?
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I do. He's a pending UFA who, despite his positive attributes, is easily replaceable. Already 27. I think he fits into the same category as guys like Sam Lafferty and Sam Carrick. Could see plenty of teams having interest.
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12-10-2024, 11:36 PM
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#3890
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Scoring Winger
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Duer keeps up his hustle, I could see him.fetching a 3rd.
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12-10-2024, 11:37 PM
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#3891
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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I'm still reeling at the fact that Andersson has only 4 points in the last 18 games.....
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12-11-2024, 12:50 AM
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#3892
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandman
I'm still reeling at the fact that Andersson has only 4 points in the last 18 games.....
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12-11-2024, 01:14 AM
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#3893
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
Montour took a significant step when he left Buffalo.
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Anahiem ####ed up HUGE and that was their misstep to their basement.
2017
They had on defence all at one and pissed em all away.
Cam Fowler
Brandon Montour
Josh Manson
Shea Theadore
Hampus Lindholm
Sami Vatanen
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12-11-2024, 01:16 AM
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#3894
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
I do. He's a pending UFA who, despite his positive attributes, is easily replaceable. Already 27. I think he fits into the same category as guys like Sam Lafferty and Sam Carrick. Could see plenty of teams having interest.
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Reminds me of Hathaway.
I hear if we let him fight Cozens we might get him for a second rounder.
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12-11-2024, 04:37 AM
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#3895
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
I am gonna put a prediction in here: Walker Duehr returns more than Andrei Kuzmenko at the TDL.
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Kuzmenko has zero value currently. Although a hot streak could change that.
Duehr has a some value.
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12-11-2024, 05:07 AM
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#3896
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
I am gonna put a prediction in here: Walker Duehr returns more than Andrei Kuzmenko at the TDL.
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Yeah, it sounds shocking and bold but Kuzmenko has..no value? What playoff team would be interested in a one note player who can't hit that note
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12-11-2024, 06:00 AM
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#3897
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
Kuzmenko has zero value currently. Although a hot streak could change that.
Duehr has a some value.
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Remember when posters were clamoring to extend this guy? Good heavens it would have been a disaster had the team given him a three or four year deal in the offseason. The guy just isn't up to the grind of the NHL season.
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12-11-2024, 06:25 AM
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#3898
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Franchise Player
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I wonder if Conroy would pull the trigger if the Sabers ask for Sharangovich in exchange for Cozens. I think this could be a good deal for both teams.
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12-11-2024, 06:28 AM
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#3899
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
Kuzmenko has zero value currently. Although a hot streak could change that.
Duehr has a some value.
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A hot streak near deadline and an injury in someone’s top 6 at the same time is about the only window we’d have for moving him.
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12-11-2024, 06:50 AM
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#3900
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gvitaly
I wonder if Conroy would pull the trigger if the Sabers ask for Sharangovich in exchange for Cozens. I think this could be a good deal for both teams.
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I hadn't thought of that, but you're right. He can play C, they are both locked in for long contracts (both until 2030).
Sharongovich and a 2nd for Cozens? Sign me up.
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