2024 NHL Draft Thread

[dammage79]

Lindstroms a center in the show for sure. Maybe Tij can be as well, who knows. If Iggy Sr. Thinks so, I'm not gonna argue. He knows more about hockey and playing than any one of us.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by dammage79

If Iggy Sr. Thinks so, I'm not gonna argue. He knows more about hockey and playing than any one of us.

To be fair, Jarome is not the first guy I would go to for a level-headed and unbiased opinion of Tij.

[Bourque's Twin]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

To be fair, Jarome is not the first guy I would go to for a level-headed and unbiased opinion of Tij.

I spent some time with Jarome in 2019. Tij was only 12 years old at the time. He said he was going to spend a lot of time in Kelowna because his son was playing hockey and taking it seriously. I asked if his son was good and he, in the most humble way possible, said “yes, he’s very good.” The kid is now a top 10 draft pick in the NHL. Based on that experience, if Jarome says he can play C at the NHL level, I believe he has a very good chance to do so.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Wait, you think Tij will be a centre and Lindstrom a winger?

IMO Iginla already has better vision and passing skills, from my views on Lindstrom he is great at forechecking to get the puck and moves very well down the middle with the puck but has tunnel vision when it comes to finding line mates and the play often dies because of this, I think he'll be a winger with his current skill set, Hey, they both have room to grow and improve but remember Iginla is 7 months younger and I fully expect Tij to be Kelowna's #1 center next season.

[CliffFletcher]

In Pronman’s rankings of the C prospects in this draft, he says some execs think Lidstrom’s questionable vision and hockey sense make him a winger in the NHL. He has Catton as likely a winger in the NHL due to size.

Lots of players drafted as C wind up as wingers for those two reasons - lack of NHL smarts or lack of NHL size.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

In Pronman’s rankings of the C prospects in this draft, he says some execs think Lidstrom’s questionable vision and hockey sense make him a winger in the NHL. He has Catton as likely a winger in the NHL due to size.

Lots of players drafted as C wind up as wingers for those two reasons - lack of NHL smarts or lack of NHL size.

Even if Catton ends up a winger his production is in rarified air (50+ goals, 115+ points) with a small group of CHL draft eligible players that have become elite NHL players (Crosby, Kane, Bedard) and he did this without a stacked supporting cast. I feel he's going to be that player that if he slides there will be people years down the road asking why he wasn't a top 5 pick. I get the Iginla infatuation but the Flames are so starved for a franchise talent that I just don't know how they could pass on Catton if he's available at 9.

[icarus]

Since some are eager for the Flames to acquire another high pick, some fuel for the fire from the NHL.com Sabres

Can the Sabres trade the pick?

Having laid that foundation to the prospect pool, Adams said during an appearance on WGR 550 in May that the team will be open to the possibility of trading the 11th pick in a move that benefits the NHL roster.

“You need a deep prospect pool,” Adams said. “You need a pipeline of players that can come through your system and replace players that either you have to trade for financial reasons, or they’ve just fallen off, they get older. So, that’s critical. But I laid a plan out three or four years ago now and we stuck to that. We’ve been disciplined. I think our amateur scouts have done a great job of identifying some really good hockey players that we’re excited about.

“We’re in a different phase right now. We need to look at every possible scenario to help our team get better. So, when I talk about winning now, that absolutely comes into play. We’re still not going to do something that doesn’t make sense, but we will definitely talk about that type of move, and does that make sense? And maybe it makes a lot more sense now based on where our roster is and where our prospect pool is than it did one, two, three years ago.”

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Even if Catton ends up a winger his production is in rarified air (50+ goals, 115+ points) with a small group of CHL draft eligible players that have become elite NHL players (Crosby, Kane, Bedard) and he did this without a stacked supporting cast. I feel he's going to be that player that if he slides there will be people years down the road asking why he wasn't a top 5 pick. I get the Iginla infatuation but the Flames are so starved for a franchise talent that I just don't know how they could pass on Catton if he's available at 9.

A good comparable is Clayton Keller. Drafted 7th OA as a C, plays in the NHL as a winger, and now sitting at fourth in his draft year in points. He probably goes a couple spots higher in a redraft.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

A good comparable is Clayton Keller. Drafted 7th OA as a C, plays in the NHL as a winger, and now sitting at fourth in his draft year in points. He probably goes a couple spots higher in a redraft.

Yeah when you consider what a trainwreck the Coyotes have been Keller has actually had a solid career. One has to wonder how he would have fared if he was on a good team with a solid supporting cast.

[Roof-Daddy]

The Flames don't have to bottom out to become an elite team, they just need to draft some star players. Obviously it's more likely that they'll draft some stars if they're picking top 5 or 10 every year, but star players can be found later in the draft too.

It's something the Bruins do very well.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

So this is interesting...



This has to be the Flames right...there is no other NHL team close to Medicine Hat that the team would be able to use their medical advice.

Have to think the Flames would have a better read on his health than anyone then.

I was was thinking the exact same thing when I read that. I think you have to draft him if he is there.

[dustygoon]

I assume this was posted, but sounds like pressure/desire is there in NJ to get a goalie and pick #10 is up for grabs

"I'm in the goalie market talking to teams, but there's a 'but' and the 'but' is how do we want to build our team?"...... With the goaltending, what's that going to cost us?

"Does the No. 10 pick get you that type of player that you can add to the group. It's easy to say, 'Go get so-and-so and then you build from there.' But there are some guys who have different contracts so how are those players going to reprice at. There's a lot to it, but, yes, the focus is on finding that goaltender."

https://www.nhl.com/news/new-jersey-...2024-nhl-draft

[NewFan]

I think Andersson is the only player who can be traded high pick if prospect or 2nd or 3rd added. Andersson + 2nd for 10-15th AO this year?
But I would like trade Andersson for 2025 or 2026 1st + ? than trade for this year.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

The Flames don't have to bottom out to become an elite team, they just need to draft some star players. Obviously it's more likely that they'll draft some stars if they're picking top 5 or 10 every year, but star players can be found later in the draft too.

It's something the Bruins do very well.

The 25 and 26 draft have franchise altering talent at the top of the list, it would be a good idea to bottom out to give ourselves a chance to finally get that player or players.

I would love to land a #1D, but teams have won with D by committee before. We have find our #1 star C in the next 3 drafts.

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by NewFan

I think Andersson is the only player who can be traded high pick if prospect or 2nd or 3rd added. Andersson + 2nd for 10-15th AO this year?
But I would like trade Andersson for 2025 or 2026 1st + ? than trade for this year.

Calgary in no way, shape, or form should be adding to Andersson to net a pick outside of the top 10. He is a 27 year old top pairing right handed defender whom is on an absolute steal of a contract. Chychrun with two (and change) years of team control returned the 12th overall and two second picks by himself despite having a significant injury history, and a career high of 41 points.

[SuperMatt18]

If you're moving Andersson for a pick in the 10-15 range it should be the 1st + 2nd coming back.

That's the precident from the Chychrun / Hronek trades.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dustygoon

I assume this was posted, but sounds like pressure/desire is there in NJ to get a goalie and pick #10 is up for grabs

https://www.nhl.com/news/new-jersey-...2024-nhl-draft

I'd be over the moon if they turn Markstrom into a 10th overall pick. That feels more like a Saros move though.

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I'd be over the moon if they turn Markstrom into a 10th overall pick. That feels more like a Saros move though.

Straight up....agree. But Markstrom plus?

I think this really hinges on cost to NJ. If you read that article, they have some other things they need to do and have $18mm cap space. Mercer plus goalie plus fix their crap D plus round out their forwards probably uses up most of that. Then next year they need to deal with Luke Hughes and Nemec.

Ulmark, Markstrom, and Saros all have similar cap hits this coming year.

Ulmark (31) and Saros need contracts next year and those could be biggies.

Not saying Markstrom is best option but he has advantage of the extra year at reasonable price despite his age.

[traptor]

Markstrom doesn't get you 10th oa. If Conroy somehow pulled that off, it's time to build a statue.

Rasmus would be a good fit in Buffalo.
Could you get 11th oa + Jokiharju?

Or Byram seems a little redundant with Power and Dahlin.
Byram + 2nd for Rasmus

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

The 25 and 26 draft have franchise altering talent at the top of the list, it would be a good idea to bottom out to give ourselves a chance to finally get that player or players.

I would love to land a #1D, but teams have won with D by committee before. We have find our #1 star C in the next 3 drafts.

I'm all for it if it happens.

Just saying it's possible to land franchise altering talent later in the draft, although less likely.