There is unequivocally no doubt he should if he wants to.
Besides Covid, it cannot be stressed enough that he's the 100% sole reason this team is very very likely to make the WC this year.
But I put nothing past the egotistically and politically motivated mess that is the CSA.
There's a rant for another day, but John Herdman should be selected to the Canadian Sports Hall of Fame the second this team breaks it's inexcusable 36 year absence from the WC.
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Away games in Central America tend to have very choppy play with a lot of diving and time wasting by the opposition. Often accompanied by shady refereeing. Away crowds are very hostile (less so during this last window) with lots of stuff thrown from the stands at away teams such as bags of piss. Plus the heat and humidity can be difficult.
The goal Atiba scored was one of the most CONCACAF goals you'll ever see, and one that no one would have predicted in 100 years. Those type of goals usually go in on Canada's net, not the opposition.
The covid attendance restrictions have definitely helped Canada. Imagine 30k+of El Salvadorans yesterday, the atmosphere would have been completely different.
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The covid attendance restrictions have definitely helped Canada. Imagine 30k+of El Salvadorans yesterday, the atmosphere would have been completely different.
The restrictions made Honduras away feel like FC Edmonton away. Unbelievable how tame the atmosphere was in Honduras vs the usual.
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People will take notice that he took a perennial terrible team to a top 30 ranking. If they make R16, it’ll certainly get some clubs and associations attention.
Premier League clubs can probably offer way more than CSA can, and he’s English. Heck maybe if England has a disappointing WC they dump Southgate and back up the Brinks truck for Herdman.
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I guess the whole $12M for qualifying gets glossed over a bit because it doesn't really matter as much to the powerhouse teams, but with that and another good chunk of money in 4 years in 2026 (plus whatever share hosting $ there might be) it certainly puts Canada Soccer in an unprecedented position when it comes to dealing with staff retention and recruitment.
I'd imagine after a qualification like this that of course associations would be giving a look at to what is going on, have him on a scoutlist or something, but one good qualification isn't going to move the needle a whole lot for the attractive jobs.
I guess the whole $12M for qualifying gets glossed over a bit because it doesn't really matter as much to the powerhouse teams, but with that and another good chunk of money in 4 years in 2026 (plus whatever share hosting $ there might be) it certainly puts Canada Soccer in an unprecedented position when it comes to dealing with staff retention and recruitment.
I'd imagine after a qualification like this that of course associations would be giving a look at to what is going on, have him on a scoutlist or something, but one good qualification isn't going to move the needle a whole lot for the attractive jobs.
Financial windfull may be more then that this year, and more, especially also as co hosts in 2026.
If there's one organization that will woefully mismanage those funds, try and gouge sponsors becuase they are the supposed authority in this country and monopolize soccer in this country (good luck having CPL teams allowed to run something alongside WC), and have it's executives and 47 members of the board of directors live high on the hog and boost their own egos the next 5+ years, it's the CSA. All while infighting amongst themselves and the various provincial associations about how to waste money, then player selection, coaching...all the while having pennies of the dollars they've been gifted, actually devlop the game for future generations.
Look at the "legacy" of 1986. The CSL lasted for 3 decent years, and then died a 3 year death with less then 6 teams even with games on TSN.
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Can’t confirm this legit in anyway but let’s dare to dream.
With the game very likely being the defacto national party and homecoming game after very likely qualifying already in Costa Rica days earlier, it's hard to fathom it's not going to be in the CSA and media backyard of Toronto.
Away games in Central America tend to have very choppy play with a lot of diving and time wasting by the opposition. Often accompanied by shady refereeing. Away crowds are very hostile (less so during this last window) with lots of stuff thrown from the stands at away teams such as bags of piss. Plus the heat and humidity can be difficult.
The goal Atiba scored was one of the most CONCACAF goals you'll ever see, and one that no one would have predicted in 100 years. Those type of goals usually go in on Canada's net, not the opposition.
Plus for Honduras and El Salvador, not only do they get to escape the normal hell of life in their home country to play in Canada...somehow 8000 supporters would show up to a game in Canada that had like 13000 spectators to root on these teams. These last 3 home games for Canada has been a complete change where the team is getting a lot of support.
Hopefully this is how these games are in Canada for the rest of my life. Make these Central Americans play in harsh conditions, and have 50,000 Canadian Supporters in the stands in freezing temperatures yelling at them because Canada is kicking their ass.
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With the game very likely being the defacto national party and homecoming game after very likely qualifying already in Costa Rica days earlier, it's hard to fathom it's not going to be in the CSA and media backyard of Toronto.
With two games in Central America on either side, I would think they'll want to stay in the Eastern time zone too. The November window with only two games and both at home lent itself to going to a place like Edmonton to host a couple of warm weather teams and force them to travel longer distances to play in Canada's version of San Pedro Sula.
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Hopefully this is how these games are in Canada for the rest of my life. Make these Central Americans play in harsh conditions, and have 50,000 Canadian Supporters in the stands in freezing temperatures yelling at them because Canada is kicking their ass.
The whole contrast is something that has to be loved by people at every level. But MLS and the CPL has completely changed what it means to be a supporter in the country, with a nice boost that this qualifying section has been, perfectly piggybacking off the women's success as well. It's cool, it's fun. That the team has been a wagon has made it something completely unprecedented. The Voyageurs may have been founded in '06, but this is the year it really means something.
The novelty of an 'Frozen Fortress' game is something that wouldn't have meant a thing previously. Now it's basically a challenge. Game in Edmonton in November in -20? #### yeah! The idea that BC Place is now too warm, too controlled and not the right venue is actually pretty wild.
Now going forward it will be what will the traveling support post-Covid be like. A January window game in Jamaica or Costa Rica? Twist my arm! The leap the program has taken this year is bigger than we can really understand yet, I think. A golden opportunity was presented to the team, and they managed to find an even bigger vein than anybody expected.
Plus for Honduras and El Salvador, not only do they get to escape the normal hell of life in their home country to play in Canada...somehow 8000 supporters would show up to a game in Canada that had like 13000 spectators to root on these teams. These last 3 home games for Canada has been a complete change where the team is getting a lot of support.
Hopefully this is how these games are in Canada for the rest of my life. Make these Central Americans play in harsh conditions, and have 50,000 Canadian Supporters in the stands in freezing temperatures yelling at them because Canada is kicking their ass.
This was the first national team game I watched after really starting to follow the team. BMO Field is half empty and everywhere except the supporters section is full of yellow. Even the home El Salvador game in September had BMO Field full of blue at kickoff, to the point where players commented on it after the game.
It's awesome to see a full stadium with the majority supporting red.
Plus for Honduras and El Salvador, not only do they get to escape the normal hell of life in their home country to play in Canada...somehow 8000 supporters would show up to a game in Canada that had like 13000 spectators to root on these teams. These last 3 home games for Canada has been a complete change where the team is getting a lot of support.
Hopefully this is how these games are in Canada for the rest of my life. Make these Central Americans play in harsh conditions, and have 50,000 Canadian Supporters in the stands in freezing temperatures yelling at them because Canada is kicking their ass.
There is unequivocally no doubt he should if he wants to.
Besides Covid, it cannot be stressed enough that he's the 100% sole reason this team is very very likely to make the WC this year.
But I put nothing past the egotistically and politically motivated mess that is the CSA.
There's a rant for another day, but John Herdman should be selected to the Canadian Sports Hall of Fame the second this team breaks it's inexcusable 36 year absence from the WC.
I really like him, I liked him when he was coaching the women national team.
