10-08-2021, 09:30 AM
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#3821
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stemit14
Yes. That’s eichel not playing hockey for almost two years… and coming off of a serious surgery/recovery. Yikes.
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Isn't that what you're getting if you trade for him today?
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10-08-2021, 09:31 AM
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#3822
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: North America
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
I don't know if Eichel enforcing a NMC is much of a factor in this case is it?
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Perhaps not.
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10-08-2021, 09:36 AM
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#3823
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigrangy
If you trade for Eichel, you do it with the intent to go all in.
Lucic
Zadorov
Coronato
Pelletier
1st 2022 (top5 protected)
1st 2023 (top5 protected, conditional on Eichel playing and performing in 2022-2023)
That moves out 9 million, idk if you’d have to do more. If you go and move actual top of roster players for Eichel it just hurts you until he’s healthy. Would this have been way easier to do back in June, yes.
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How is this a realistic trade at all for Buffalo? Why would they take Lucic and Zadorov, who arguably have negative trade value?
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10-08-2021, 09:44 AM
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#3824
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Originally Posted by The Yen Man
How is this a realistic trade at all for Buffalo? Why would they take Lucic and Zadorov, who arguably have negative trade value?
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They are the new Stajan and Brouwer that used to go in so many fan trade proposals. Because other teams cover the Flames’ trash
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10-08-2021, 11:02 AM
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#3825
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Yen Man
How is this a realistic trade at all for Buffalo? Why would they take Lucic and Zadorov, who arguably have negative trade value?
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To balance the cap
The assets are the 4 1sts
And Zadorov does not have negative value - take a look at Buffalo's D
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10-08-2021, 11:09 AM
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#3826
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Yen Man
How is this a realistic trade at all for Buffalo? Why would they take Lucic and Zadorov, who arguably have negative trade value?
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Pretty sure Buffalo is not on the list of teams Lucic want to go to anyway
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10-08-2021, 12:08 PM
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#3827
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
I think the Ducks would have the inside track on a deal, because they can offer a genuinely blue-chip prospect (even without including Zegras or Drysdale). But the Flames are in the mix if the Sabres resign themselves to quantity over quality.
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According to Kings reporter John Hoven over a month ago, the Ducks had no interest in including McTavish (along with Zegras and Drysdale)
Will be interesting to see if viewing Eichel’s medical records has changed that tune and the Ducks are willing to include someone like McTavish. If so, would the Flames be willing to offer two of Zary, Pelletier, and Coronato? Would that be enough to outbid the Ducks?
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10-08-2021, 01:09 PM
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#3828
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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I dont want an Eichel trade to the Flames. So it must be a sign that an Eichel to Calgary trade is gonna happen.
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10-08-2021, 01:26 PM
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#3829
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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The Sabres could possibly retain on Monahan and flip him to a third team and extract another 1st+ out of a team. Wouldn’t Vegas love Monahan at $3.2M for the next 2 years and pay a 1st++?
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10-08-2021, 01:29 PM
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#3830
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
The Sabres could possibly retain on Monahan and flip him to a third team and extract another 1st+ out of a team. Wouldn’t Vegas love Monahan at $3.2M for the next 2 years and pay a 1st++?
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Monny needs to prove himself healthy over a period of time before he has much value.
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10-08-2021, 01:32 PM
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#3831
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saskatoon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
I dont want an Eichel trade to the Flames. So it must be a sign that an Eichel to Calgary trade is gonna happen.
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Then, I hope you don’t want the Flames to win the cup.
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10-08-2021, 01:33 PM
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#3832
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
The Sabres could possibly retain on Monahan and flip him to a third team and extract another 1st+ out of a team. Wouldn’t Vegas love Monahan at $3.2M for the next 2 years and pay a 1st++?
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Yes I think Monahan, with that cap hit, would have a lot of value to a team like Vegas.
For that reason, Buffalo should value him accordingly.
Unless they're too cheap to retain cap that is.
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10-08-2021, 03:22 PM
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#3833
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
I dont want an Eichel trade to the Flames. So it must be a sign that an Eichel to Calgary trade is gonna happen.
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Lol and why is that? Don't like the idea of this franchise getting its first elite 1C since nieuwendyk?
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10-08-2021, 03:31 PM
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#3834
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheoFleury
Lol and why is that? Don't like the idea of this franchise getting its first elite 1C since nieuwendyk?
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The injury risk isn't worth the investment of a 50m player. That's my opinion is all.
We simply don't know what kind of player will come out of the other end of this surgery.
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10-08-2021, 03:34 PM
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#3835
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
The injury risk isn't worth the investment of a 50m player. That's my opinion is all.
We simply don't know what kind of player will come out of the other end of this surgery.
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If the risk wasn't there, he likely wouldn't be available. I'd rather take a 50m risk on elite talent then watch this franchise spend it on middling talent instead, which is pretty much par for the course and hasn't been working, predictably.
Time to put your chips in or fold imo. It's midnight and this team is clearly a pumpkin as is.
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10-08-2021, 03:56 PM
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#3836
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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It is like over a 95% chance that Eichel is still an elite C after the surgery he wants, you play those odds every time.
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10-08-2021, 04:15 PM
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#3837
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
It is like over a 95% chance that Eichel is still an elite C after the surgery he wants, you play those odds every time.
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You did an assessment on him yourself, did you?
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10-08-2021, 04:20 PM
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#3838
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
You did an assessment on him yourself, did you?
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No, I just read what doctors who perform this type of surgery say. I know on CP the speculators have more credibility than experts but the reality is he will almost certainly be just fine.
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10-08-2021, 04:24 PM
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#3839
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Locked in the Trunk of a Car
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
Monny needs to prove himself healthy over a period of time before he has much value.
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So does Eichel
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10-08-2021, 04:40 PM
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#3840
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by csnarpy
So does Eichel
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Yet teams seem to me interested in him without seeing him play.
Eichel has performed well when he has played. Monny was a shell of his former self last year. Teams really don’t know what that are getting with him. Eichel has a specific injury.
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