2015/2016 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by getbak

I don't believe that's true. He was a 22 year-old signing, so he only needs 2 years of professional experience to be eligible for arbitration and restricted free agency. He will have 2 years experience at the end of this season.


He's not like Gaudreau or Arnold who burned the first year of their contracts without playing enough games to qualify as a year of pro experience, so their ELCs weren't synced with their arbitration and RFA rights. Hayes didn't burn a year of his ELC, so his years line up the way they're supposed to.

Fair enough, I was under impression he was a 21 year old signing. Still can't sign an offer sheet.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Fair enough, I was under impression he was a 21 year old signing. Still can't sign an offer sheet.

He should be able to sign an offer sheet. It's the same rules. 22 year-olds only require 2 years experience.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by getbak

He should be able to sign an offer sheet. It's the same rules. 22 year-olds only require 2 years experience.

My understanding is that any player with fewer than 3 years of pro experience is not eligible to sign an offer sheet.

10.2 (c)

(c) Players With Fewer Than Three Years of Professional Experience.
Any Player with fewer than the required years of professional experience set forth
in Section 10.2 shall have no right to Free Agency except as provided in this section. Upon
expiration of such a Player's SPC, the Club to whom the Player was last under SPC shall be
entitled to make that Player a Qualifying Offer under the terms and conditions set forth in
Section 10.2(a)(ii) above. A Club which makes this Qualifying Offer will have the exclusive
right to negotiate with any such Player. In the event no such Qualifying Offer is made, the
Player shall immediately become an Unrestricted Free Agent pursuant to Section 10.2(a)(iv)
above.

edit: nvm you are right. the title of the section threw me off.

[chubeyr1]

If we are talking call ups why not Billy Arnold? He has yet to get his chance! Freddie Hamilton is another good one! Both deserve a shot!

As for Kreider for Backlund or Colborne lololololololoolololol. If you included both Colborne and Backlund and then added a second round pick most Ranger fans would want more. I don't blame them either.

[sureLoss]

Garrioch "rumors":
http://www.ottawasun.com/2015/12/05/...e-jeff-skinner

Canes have put up a "For Sale" sign
everyone is available except for a few young players
top of the list is Jeff Skinner
Garrioch told that Canes would be willing to give a prospect with Skinner to get the contract off the books
Decisions need to be made on E. Staal and Ward and many don't believe one or both will be back


Jets, Coyotes, and Bruins need to decide if they are going to re-sign Byfuglien, Boedker and Eriksson respectively.
Panthers may take a run at Byfuglien given Talon is a huge fan and Brian Campbell comes off the books next year

Treliving is working the phones.
Teams would like to acquire Hudler and Russell for playoff runs, but Flames may want to re-sign them
Both Hudler and Russell would be valuable pieces to contenders

Ducks GM doing a lot of talking in the trade market, but doesn't take any action.
Doesn't seem to be an urgency on Bob Murray's part despite Ducks' struggles.
Ducks wouldn't mind moving Cogliano or Maroon
Garrioch again re-iterates his weekly line about Ducks getting a lot for Fowler if they decide to move them

Garrioch regurgitates the old Blue Jackets want to move Rychel for a top 4 d-man but many believe that they are asking too much for Rychel

Regurgitation about Eberle and the Oilers

Blackhawks asking a high price of a 2nd and prospect for Trevor Daley

[Vinny01]

Skinner has some bad numbers this year. 7 goals is okay but only 2 assists.

[kehatch]

Skinner is a risk. On one hand he has high level skill and is 23 years old. On the other he is an undersized winger with concussion history and who is on the decline.

If he is available at a bargain price you have to consider it. But he has term on a 6 million dollar contract.

You only get 5 or 6 of the big contracts. Giordano and Hamilton already have one. You have to think Gaudreau, Bennett, and Monahan will get one as well. We don't have a goalie and that's probably your number 6.

Tough to justify taking on Skinner unless Carolina is taking back salary. And then your not getting a bargain in trade anymore.

[hockey.modern]

Originally Posted by chubeyr1

If we are talking call ups why not Billy Arnold? He has yet to get his chance! Freddie Hamilton is another good one! Both deserve a shot!

As for Kreider for Backlund or Colborne lololololololoolololol. If you included both Colborne and Backlund and then added a second round pick most Ranger fans would want more. I don't blame them either.

I think management will be looking at wingers for the next call up if Jones is out for a while. Agostino or Hamilton are probably the first options right now.

[Poe969]

I hope to god BT isn't thinking of re-signing Hudler and Russell especially if they can be traded for assets.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by New Era

No. Shore is AHL talent. Did nothing with the chance he had. Move on.

I disagree, he hasn't been given much of a chance here.

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

I am asuming you are seeing some Stockton games? Because his stats are not exactly eye-popping.

No one has eye popping stats on Stockton. But Shore has been very good for a while now for them.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Poe969

I hope to god BT isn't thinking of re-signing Hudler and Russell especially if they can be traded for assets.

Maybe next year we will re-up Wideman lol

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by Poe969

I hope to god BT isn't thinking of re-signing Hudler and Russell especially if they can be traded for assets.

It really depends on a couple of factors.

1) can the Flames erase the 5 point deficit between now and the deadline
2) do they believe they can replace said guys internally.

If they are out, then I would assume everyone that isn't stapled down is gone. If they claw their way back some how, I could see re-signing Hudler possibly. Russell less so, unless his contract is basically an extension of his current 2.6 million. That way he can more easily be relegated to the 3rd pairing moving forward.

[Da_Chief]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

It really depends on a couple of factors.

1) can the Flames erase the 5 point deficit between now and the deadline
2) do they believe they can replace said guys internally.

If they are out, then I would assume everyone that isn't stapled down is gone. If they claw their way back some how, I could see re-signing Hudler possibly. Russell less so, unless his contract is basically an extension of his current 2.6 million. That way he can more easily be relegated to the 3rd pairing moving forward.

Which makes absolutely zero sense to be paying 3rd pair guy close to 3 mill a year. That is why you draft and have prospects, so they can come in play those roles for less then a mill.

Only scenario where Russell comes back is if he signs for less then a mill. Which is not gonna happen so there should be no way Russell comes back to the Flames next year.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

1) can the Flames erase the 5 point deficit between now and the deadline

Irrelevant point. The Flames should be thinking long term and whether either fit in the plans down the road. I could see Hudler, but only for a cap friendly deal. I think he is a mentor for the kids on the team and doesn't hurt you up and down the lineup.

2) do they believe they can replace said guys internally.

The way both have played this season, easily. Russell has been horrible. The team has performed much better with him out of the lineup. He should be sold off to the highest bidder. Hudler hasn't been good either, but I really appreciate his leadership and example with the young guys. I could see him being retained, but if he doesn't look to want to sign for a cap friendly amount, send him packing as well. We have guys that can step in and play at the same level as these two, or at an even higher level. Just give them a chance.

[Roof-Daddy]

Unless BT has a plan in place to remove one or more of Wideman, Smid and Engelland from the roster/payroll, I have no idea how he could ever expect to re-sign Russell.

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by New Era

Irrelevant point. The Flames should be thinking long term and whether either fit in the plans down the road. I could see Hudler, but only for a cap friendly deal. I think he is a mentor for the kids on the team and doesn't hurt you up and down the lineup.

Well, it's hard to have the team fight all the way back into competition and then trade the 1st line RW. It was fine to trade a passenger last season in Glencross because nobody really noticed he wasn't on the team any more. The team would miss Hudler. I think they might trade Russell either way though.

The way both have played this season, easily. Russell has been horrible. The team has performed much better with him out of the lineup. He should be sold off to the highest bidder. Hudler hasn't been good either, but I really appreciate his leadership and example with the young guys. I could see him being retained, but if he doesn't look to want to sign for a cap friendly amount, send him packing as well. We have guys that can step in and play at the same level as these two, or at an even higher level. Just give them a chance.

Honestly, I'd rather see the Flames try and acquire a top 4 defenseman through trade or UFA than keep Russell. It would not necessarily hurt for the D-men to get some extra seasoning on the farm next year as well as we wait for Engelland, Smid, and Wideman's contracts to expire. If you get a new top 4 guy, that should be a player that you could rely on being a Flame for at least a few years. That way you could slot some younger talent in the 5/6 spots after that and ease them in.

[sureLoss]

Craig Morgan @craigsmorgan
The Coyotes have claimed F Viktor Tikhonov off waivers (Chicago). Was a first round pick of Coyotes in 2008 (28th overall).

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Craig Morgan @craigsmorgan
The Coyotes have claimed F Viktor Tikhonov off waivers (Chicago). Was a first round pick of Coyotes in 2008 (28th overall).

Guess we didn't want him.

[Husky]

If Hudler, Russell, etc are moved I hope its for picks alone unless its part of a package for a young player (which I doubt). Amass picks and try to do a draft deal again. Picks = future flexability.

[hockey.modern]

Originally Posted by Husky

If Hudler, Russell, etc are moved I hope its for picks alone unless its part of a package for a young player (which I doubt). Amass picks and try to do a draft deal again. Picks = future flexability.

Exactly, plus maybe Treliving can spark some of his magic again and get a player like we did with Dougie.