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Old 10-27-2014, 04:28 AM   #3821
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I also feel much more comfortable with Diss than squiggs. I still feel that the mafia would have encouraged everyone early that it was safe to reveal their characters as it had nothing to do with their alignment. Squiggs was the only one who really hesitated. Formulate was one of the first ones to reveal, so I don't think the hesitation would have come from wanting to hide their alignment.

I also think Squiggs early activity is more closely aligned with not having much time to play rather than being directed by the mafia. He started the campaign against Aeneas/Baxter with only known townies following him. The third real day of day 1 also saw not known-townies Diss and Oling continue to drive the squiggs train when bizarro's votes dissipated.

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Old 10-27-2014, 06:25 AM   #3822
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The dissent owner lynch seems to make more sense than Squiggs .
I felt at the beginning of the game he was Mafia.

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Old 10-27-2014, 06:56 AM   #3823
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That's 6 votes for Diss, don't hammer him yet.

Powers that could very well be anti-town and going after Rathji for having anti-town powers, then Rathji posted his mega post which sealed it for me.
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Old 10-27-2014, 07:22 AM   #3824
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So here is where I am at since I might get night killed (who am I kidding). I have gone down to 4 scum as that seems more reasonable with the SK in the game.

The following people are town
Wood - if he's not town we lose.
Drury
Timbo - you have managed to get off my list with that bucket.
Rathji - could be moved back in depending on the night
GGG - me, lynchproof me,
Starseed - mason
Puxlut - mason
Squiggs - he comes off to put oling on
HG - used power

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Oling
Girly
Aeneas
Diss

Of these Aeneas is 100% scum. He has contributed nothing. He had two meaningless posts today. Just checked in to see the frame job work. If he claims cop don't believe him he should have investigated me early and at least lost his suspicion of me for a day or two.

Girly is guilty. She has been working the surprise the mafia and keep secrets technique the whole game. It does not make sense. She also conveniently got a guardian invite just as we started rejecting them. I firmly believe now that their is no separate win condition and it is just a mafia ploy. They give out powers half don't work, they create confusion in exchange for the guardian powers working.

Oling, There has to be one high posting mafia member. And of everyone who fits that description has pretty good town cred. I go back to the first vote on Squiggs and it's either him, Oling or Timbo. Then there is the formulate reveal. He continued to be insistent even after Forms reveal that he had caught the GodFather. He didn't believe the confession. It just doesn't make sense. Oling is also still alive. How is this prolific of poster still alive. Formulate tried to kill him, it failed, no one I am aware of came forward to say he was protected. It could have been ECF on his last night or he is the bullet proof Godfather we are looking for. How helpful of him to find the SK just when the SK might be turning to start killing scum. Also I don't know this for sure but I believe oling rejected a guardian invite as well. What a nice pro town thing to do at just the right convenient time.

Diss is the lowest on my list. He could still be the cop. Him posting he is not the cop makes me think he wants the town to think that mafia thinks he is the cop. (Wifomy). This way our cop won't reveal himself. If our cop dies tonight this moves diss way up the suspicion list. Also the whole random new secret group thing to me is just thrown out there to put focus back on the groups of which no mafia member has joined. The problem with Diss is he votes so closely with girly sports.

Squiggs doesn't make the cut as though he has been on my list for a while all of the scum aren't going to be low posters and if you put Squiggs in you have to take oling out. I would recommend everyone have there list ready for tomorrow so we can attack and dissect each persons opinion.

Anyways that's it for me tonight.

See you at twilight. I will have logged in with a star beside my name capital GGG.
Here is what I posted a few days ago. In case I die tonight. This is my current state of thought.

I am much less sold on Aeneas left and we shouldn't lynch until the others are gone. With the watcher power I have him much more town.

Much stronger now on the girly, diss, oling
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Old 10-27-2014, 07:52 AM   #3825
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From my previous post:
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This is a solid town post from Diss. First one I have really noticed.
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I am not sure it is good timing for the cop to come out unless he has only done investigations on players that are still in the game. The longer we can keep the cop alive the more investigations he can do. Of course there is always the risk he gets night killed but that seems unlikely to me this early. I don't know, what do others think?
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Naw, if you make it through this lynching we will just string you up again. Just because you have a one time unlynchable power that does not mean you are town. The fact that you keep pushing that as fact makes it very suspicious
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I realized this morning that both of these posts are part of the 'frame job' for GGG.
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Old 10-27-2014, 08:03 AM   #3826
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Just caught up, didnt realize that it would gain so much momentum.

I don't know that I will die tonight, but anything is possible so here is what I got

- I agree that we are looking at a small number of mafia. Wouldn't be suprised if it was as low as 2, but am thinking 3 or 4.

- As for my list of potential mafia

Diss - Top of my list I think, after my realization of the frame job in my previous post. If it wasnt the hammer I would cast that vote now in a heartbeat. As it stands, any late voting (even the hammer) should be considered suspicious, as I think he is the forgone conclusion for today's lynch.

GirlySports - Her power reveal seems crafted to keep us from lynching her. While probably a "town power", I doubt this is actually what she has, and they looked for something that would make sense to not have her lynched without trying to claim a power they could not prove. If this is true, she likely has a power that couldn't possibly be claimed as a townie power.

Squiggs - Still pretty sold on him being mafia, but it is mostly a gut feeling at this point, we need a full analysis before I am going to commit to voting for him. I wont have time today, but maybe tomorrow.

Aeneas - Less sold on him being mafia, but still worth a look.
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Old 10-27-2014, 09:26 AM   #3827
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The town continues to be fools in this game, we are going to lose. You are letting the scum continue to lead you by the nose and have this tunnel vision thinking that will surely end up in a mafia win. Go ahead and vote out another townie hthen, it is what we have done best. I guess my biggest mistake was opening my mouth and pointing out things that did not add up instead of keeping my mouth shut and just being blind to the obvious. Maybe after I die and flip town you guys will finally wake up. Nobody ever addressed the fact that Starseed and Puxlut were key pieces that led us to were we are now, and that the MOT thing was a bunch of lies and misleads. I pointed this out and everybody else just swept it under the rug. I guess I still win if the town turns this sunking ship around but I highly doubt it. Go ahead, have it then. Kill another townie and put the scum much closer to winning. At least I won't have to stress about the game anymore. Your scum for sure are starseed, puxlut, Rathji, and probably squiggs although not sure there. Open your damn eyes once you have killed me!
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Old 10-27-2014, 09:32 AM   #3828
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Maybe Squiggs96, Dissentowner, and Aeneas can post their flavour and see if it makes some sense?
I have Super Sonic Racing where I can give someone my super sonic shoes and everybody but themselves has to vote for them to be lynched.

I also have Chaos Emeralds tht can give to somebody to make their vote count for two.
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Old 10-27-2014, 09:34 AM   #3829
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Go ahead and hammer, just for the love of the town once I flip remember who lead the charge against me. Remember who lost it once I suggested he might be scum and got super defensive. Remember who didn't want to disclose his other power. He will try and throw you off by saying it means nothing after I flip town, don't buy it!!! Start getting some scum!
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Old 10-27-2014, 09:42 AM   #3830
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Also awfully convient too that I can't use this night time doctor. I predict you guys lynch me and then the scum nightkill GGG leaving everyone back in a big ball of confusion. Doesn't someone else have a one shot doctor too? I suggest using that on GGG for the record. Remember what I said in the past few posts, I will shut up and die now.
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Old 10-27-2014, 10:00 AM   #3831
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Pretty sure that if Diss flips town, we can't possibly win, unless there is only 2 or 3 mafia members, then we have another day.

Btw Diss, if you are town, suggesting who to protect with Dr one-shot skills is a really bad idea, especially if it is the best option. It only helps highlight for the mafia who we think might get the kill, so they can direct it elsewhere. Basically, if there is such an ability, it is best not to talk about who is getting protected by it.
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Old 10-27-2014, 10:18 AM   #3832
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Pretty sure that if Diss flips town, we can't possibly win, unless there is only 2 or 3 mafia members, then we have another day.

Btw Diss, if you are town, suggesting who to protect with Dr one-shot skills is a really bad idea, especially if it is the best option. It only helps highlight for the mafia who we think might get the kill, so they can direct it elsewhere. Basically, if there is such an ability, it is best not to talk about who is getting protected by it.
I am pretty sure the scum watched us trying to lynch GGG twice. They already know. And I will flip town, guaranteed.
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Old 10-27-2014, 10:25 AM   #3833
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Ok, I have been looking back and want to make one last post. Despite our feud and I am still suspicious of Rathji, if he is scum he can wait. Starseed and Puxlut should be the focus of the town going forward. All they have done is lie and manipulate with their twilight/MOT thing. Please look hard into that townies! I may day tonight but I still win if the town wins.
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Old 10-27-2014, 10:32 AM   #3834
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The nice thing about star and pix is if they are scum its only 2.

I am still most comfortable with a diss lynch. Its less urgent now that his power is give someone 2 votes to vote with rather than two votes against them. The game doesnt end if we dont lynch diss and he is scum.

I would like to hear from squiggs as to the flavour behind his power.
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Old 10-27-2014, 10:43 AM   #3835
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I can be hammer if you guys want, but I'm only half feeling it right now.
There's something niggling at the back of my head about a couple of other players and I can't quite put my finger on it.
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Old 10-27-2014, 10:53 AM   #3836
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Actually, I think we have hammer... There was the invisible vote by SS and I. Then Rathji, GS, GGG, Starseed, Timbo and HG.

Is that right?
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Old 10-27-2014, 11:12 AM   #3837
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Rathji unvoted and voted for Squiggs96.

I'm still more comfortable with that vote than dissentowner.
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Old 10-27-2014, 11:29 AM   #3838
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Vote Count:

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes on any one player to hammer. It takes 4 votes to deadline lynch.

Hasn’t Voted (2): Drury18, Aeneas

Voted:
dissentowner (6): GirlySports, GGG, starseed, Timbo, Hockeyguy15
squiggs96 (2): Oling_Roachinen, Rathji
Puxlut (1):
Aeneas (1): Puxlut
Oling_Roachinen (1): squiggs96
starseed (1): dissentowner

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Old 10-27-2014, 12:34 PM   #3839
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I can be hammer if you guys want, but I'm only half feeling it right now.
There's something niggling at the back of my head about a couple of other players and I can't quite put my finger on it.
Why did you put the extra votes on him then?
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Old 10-27-2014, 12:57 PM   #3840
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The nice thing about star and pix is if they are scum its only 2.

I am still most comfortable with a diss lynch. Its less urgent now that his power is give someone 2 votes to vote with rather than two votes against them. The game doesnt end if we dont lynch diss and he is scum.

I would like to hear from squiggs as to the flavour behind his power.
How does that change anything? If he is mafia, he can easily give the extra vote to a mafia member and force us out a day earlier.

If it is starseed and puxlut, then we have an extra day (or more? - if someone wants to map it out) and can look at them for tomorrow or the next day.
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