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Old 10-20-2014, 07:16 AM   #361
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He could even claim responsibility for it, if he really wanted to go out 'a hero,' Gemma's hero anyway. It would essentially save her. I mean, he's going to die. I don't think there's anything he can do to make amends. Even if he did, I still think someone figures out the truth and outs Gemma.
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Old 10-20-2014, 07:55 AM   #362
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I don't think Juice will die at the hands of the club, they will use him in some way that will get him killed, but in doing so he earns some redemption. They have too many enemies and deceptions going right now that need to be cleaned up.

I think everyone dies in the end except Bobby, and the final scene will be a young Abel reading Jax's memoir.
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Old 10-21-2014, 09:22 PM   #363
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I think everyone dies in the end except Bobby.
Well that escalated quickly...Also my hope for Abel killing Gemma in the end has obviously risen considerably after tonight. Kid has a messed up life ahead of him either way.
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That did escalate very quickly. There were a few highs and lows there. Thinking that they were planning a death my cops with juice, and then the whole arc where Gemma thought she was going to die. I thought she was going to bust out the gun and kill Happy and the other guy. I wasn't expecting that with Bobby though. That's too bad. I was hoping he would be last man standing, although I guess he could be still.

My hope is for Abel to tell Jax, and then Jax to start confirming that and taking everything away from Gemma before destroying her.
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Old 10-23-2014, 06:12 AM   #365
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That would be some dark territory if they somehow had Abel kill Gemma. Good Lord. I don't think he would be capable, but it would be pretty insane TV if they managed it. It would make sense given Abel's flip out and trying to protect the other kid, I want to say Thomas? Seems more likely Abel tells someone. Maybe Wendy or Wayne? I still feel like somehow, he will factor in to her demise, even though he's in love with her.

That's the thing about the final season. Anyone can die really, so you start thinking everyone is about to get killed. I was also thinking that Gemma was going to beat Rat and Happy to the punch and shoot them. I didn't think they'd get Bobby, but once they showed him singing in the car, you knew something would happen and it would not be good. Tough end. Hopefully, he doesn't get killed and he somehow gets out alive, or goes out in a blaze of glory, at the very least.
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Old 10-23-2014, 07:54 AM   #366
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Well so much for my theory! At least I can't get flamed for reading the book and giving spoilers.

That was a pretty good episode, I'm glad Gemma didn't kill the guys, I thought she might and the tension was great but I think it would have rushed the big reveal.

RIP Bobby. I think you will be joined in the afterlife next week by a few of Marks's henchmen.
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Was Bobby actually killed? I thought they removed his eye, but he could still be alive? Hurting, but alive?
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Old 10-23-2014, 08:21 AM   #368
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Was Bobby actually killed? I thought they removed his eye, but he could still be alive? Hurting, but alive?
Looks like he's still alive. I hope he is. A one eyed Bobby hell bent on revenge would be a bad ass mofo.
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For those of you that may have missed the preview for this week...

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I thought the patches in the box meant he was dead.
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I took the patches as just a sign of disrespect. The cuts are very important to them, so to have the "Redwood" and "Original" ripped off is saying something.

Plus, they need Bobby alive. They have leverage over the club.
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While Abel killing Gemma would be very dark, in many ways its almost the perfect ending. The whole show, at least for Gemma, has been about all the lengths she'll go to to "protect her family". To have her own grandson kill her because she murdered his mom (and not even his actual mom crazily enough) would be the ultimate demise.
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I think they might just go that route now of Abel killing Gemma. They certainly laid the groundwork, of course could be just to throw us off. I think Unser will be the only one left. The guy who was supposed to die all along.
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I think they might just go that route now of Abel killing Gemma. They certainly laid the groundwork, of course could be just to throw us off. I think Unser will be the only one left. The guy who was supposed to die all along.
I think Unser will be the one who kills Gemma
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That's another good choice
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Old 10-24-2014, 02:06 AM   #376
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I just don't see how Abel can physically kill Gemma. Unless he kills her with a gun, but I have a hard time seeing that happen.
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Yeah I think Unser would be a good choice. Don't see how Abel can do it
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He would just have to catch her off guard, which wouldn't necessarily be difficult. Who expects a child to try and kill them? Knife to the right place takes her out.

Or just gets his hand on a gun and pulls the trigger. I don't know if he'd be strong enough to pull the trigger though. I've never fired a gun, no idea the strength it would take.

It's possible. It would be a sad end though. Tara was fighting so hard to keep her kids from that life and then one kills his grandmother to avenge her, thus keeping the cycle going.

I wonder how the club would do without Gemma. She has done a lot of stuff to keep it going and to get Jax into the chair and to keep him there.
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Abel knows?
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