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Old 05-05-2010, 07:05 AM   #361
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Totally thought that Locke was going to just wheel and shoot Claire at the end of the episode. Another fantastic episode ... loved Sayid getting his redemption there at the end, and the Sun/Jin stuff was heartbreaking but so well done. Looking forward to next week - been hearing for a while that it's a big one.
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Old 05-05-2010, 07:56 AM   #362
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Anyone catch what Sayid said to Jack about Desmond?
To answer my own question:

Sayid - "There's a well on the main island, half a mile south from the camp we just left. Desmond's inside of it. Locke wants him dead, which means you're going to need him. Do you understand me?"

Jack - "Why are you telling me?"

Sayid - "Because it's going to be you, Jack."

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Old 05-05-2010, 08:09 AM   #363
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Old 05-05-2010, 08:14 AM   #364
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um...maybe it was intentional?
Yeah, so while your show is on your target audience is probably at the local game. Great idea.
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Old 05-05-2010, 08:24 AM   #365
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Here's a thought, candidates can't kill themselves. Jin staying with Sun means he's committing suicide, something he cannot do. Perhaps in the death scene of his hand floating away was actually Frank saving him, and then bringing him to surface and to shore?

Sun however was stuck from the blast, and therefore would drown in the water.

*apologies if this is the spoiler in white a few posts earlier, I didn't read it as I don't want to know any actual spoilers merely theories of what may happen.
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Old 05-05-2010, 08:58 AM   #366
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Looks like the finale is getting extended by 30mins! Apparently they had too much good stuff and needed to extend it. 2.5hr finale!

http://www.hollywood.com/news/Epic_E...inutes/6863810
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Old 05-05-2010, 09:07 AM   #367
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Here's a thought, candidates can't kill themselves. Jin staying with Sun means he's committing suicide, something he cannot do. Perhaps in the death scene of his hand floating away was actually Frank saving him, and then bringing him to surface and to shore?

Sun however was stuck from the blast, and therefore would drown in the water.

*apologies if this is the spoiler in white a few posts earlier, I didn't read it as I don't want to know any actual spoilers merely theories of what may happen.
I think that rule was abrograted because it was Sawyer that caused the death not Darth Locke. He's dead, there was pretty much nothing else for the Suns to do on the Island, but they live on in the AR.

I think Hurley will have to die as well.

I think in the end we're going to see the Locke Monster sitting on the beach offering Jack breakfast and then telling Jack how much he wants to kill him.

In the AR Locke decides to have the surgery and dies on the table. Sawyer and Kate die on the Island and become Adam and Eve in the cave.

We go back to the beach and see Jack and MIB watching a cruise ship on the horizon.

Then we flash to a hotel room bathroom, and the curtain opens to reveal a full frontal of Hurley who proclaims that he has to stop eating the flame thrower burrito because it gives him weird dreams.
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Old 05-05-2010, 09:48 AM   #368
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I don't understand Jin staying with Sun instead of trying to get off the island and be with his daughter. Wouldn't he at least try to go on for her sake?
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Well I'm glad DL has already said we don't have to worry about it ending with a "dream" ending. Since the Lost producers have always had an idea of how the show would end, I've heard after you can go watch the earlier seasons as pilot basically in the P.O.V of Jacob.

The finale has also got the highest rating of any episode this season for people who have viewed it or read the script.

Here's a description of next weeks episode. Basically Just minor Spoilers, a description of what to look for next week in white
Next Week Is Unlike Anything You've Seen on Lost Before. Swear. And though we've all been told that none of the series regulars appear, that is actually not true. Spoiler Alert: You will see three of the main leads in a very surprising throwback moment that lets you know that the producers totally knew what they were doing as of season one. (Boo-ya!) Allison Janney guest stars, along with two other actors you know, and a few others you don't. You'll learn much much more about the history of the island and the evil, and light, within. Pay close attention to every line Allison's character says and every line (or lack thereof) on her face. Oh, and DVR it. 'Cause you'll need to watch it twice.
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Old 05-05-2010, 10:21 AM   #370
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I don't understand Jin staying with Sun instead of trying to get off the island and be with his daughter. Wouldn't he at least try to go on for her sake?
Jin's character has always been preached as the guy who is always looking after his wife, even controlling, like he was early on in the first season. After all they have been through I can see why Jin would not leave her. Besides every time he has not been by her side things haven't gone so well. (ie: season 1 raft trip to get captured, the rig explosion).
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Old 05-05-2010, 10:23 AM   #371
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Here's a thought, candidates can't kill themselves. Jin staying with Sun means he's committing suicide, something he cannot do. Perhaps in the death scene of his hand floating away was actually Frank saving him, and then bringing him to surface and to shore?

Sun however was stuck from the blast, and therefore would drown in the water.

*apologies if this is the spoiler in white a few posts earlier, I didn't read it as I don't want to know any actual spoilers merely theories of what may happen.
It's quite possible that Sawyer's actions (which Locke was banking on) allowed for Jin to die. Or since his death was voluntary then maybe he never was a candidate and it was Sun. Widmore tried to protect Jin likely because he only had the name 'Kwon' to go on. The name on the 'list' doesn't decipher who is to be protected.
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Or perhaps the "Kwon" Candidate isn't Jin or Sun.......
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Old 05-05-2010, 10:41 AM   #373
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Wow. That Jin and Sun scene was tear jerking.

There are three more episodes until this thing is over?
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Old 05-05-2010, 11:48 AM   #374
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Or perhaps the "Kwon" Candidate isn't Jin or Sun.......
Because we just don't know, certainly it's possible. I think the kid is only a ploy to help make the audience feel for them (Sun and Jin) being separated for so long. Jin missing out on his daughter etc. I've always wondered if the island and what we've been watching for several years is the actual alternate reality and what is supposed to occur is what we are starting to see now. Are Sun and Jin meant to have a child? I don't know. I'm thinking to protect the island they need to sink it and send smokey down with it and maybe things will correct themselves. At the end of the day though this show is amazing.
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Because we just don't know, certainly it's possible. I think the kid is only a ploy to help make the audience feel for them (Sun and Jin) being separated for so long. Jin missing out on his daughter etc. I've always wondered if the island and what we've been watching for several years is the actual alternate reality and what is supposed to occur is what we are starting to see now. Are Sun and Jin meant to have a child? I don't know. I'm thinking to protect the island they need to sink it and send smokey down with it and maybe things will correct themselves. At the end of the day though this show is amazing.
I have my doubts that the Island will ever be destroyed, or whether the MIB will ever be contained beyond what he is now. If you could somehow forever imprison Lockemonster then you really wouldn't need a long term candidate, you'd need a suicide bomber, and thats not how they're really building up Jack for example.

I still have this feeling in my gut that the game on the Island never ever ends and will go on for eternity in a balance of good versus evil.

I just think it would be far more powerful if both Locke and Jack somehow don't continue in the AR, and end up sitting on the beach hating each other while continuing to play the game.

But I think that Jack's final gift will be to make the AR a reality for the rest of the Lost crew.

That way the Island remains a secret.

But I'm just spitballing.

I just love the idea of the MIB in the form of Locke sitting on the Island and Jack walks up

Jack "Good Morning"

Locke "Want some breakfast"

Jack "No thanks"

Locke "You don't know how much I want to kill you"

They both look out to see a boat coming in and smile at the idea of the game continuing.

Then we flash to the other people in the AR getting on with their lives.

Except for Desmond.

I think he's the key to sending the people home, and pushing the cork back in or resetting the rules.
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Old 05-05-2010, 12:27 PM   #376
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I don't know that Jack would want to play that game, he doesn't rub off as a manipulator and you need that quality to play the game... at the same time I never thought he'd say he wants to stay on the island so who knows.

I can see Sawyer taking a bullet for Jack now though, makes me wonder who Adam and Eve are now because maybe it is Sawyer and Kate. Not sure why they would have stones in their hands though.
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Why didnt Locke just let them get on the plane and blow them up there. Why did he get them onto the Sub instead?
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Old 05-05-2010, 01:16 PM   #378
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Why didnt Locke just let them get on the plane and blow them up there. Why did he get them onto the Sub instead?
Probably because he knew Sawyer would turn on him, it's the only way Jack would get on board. He wouldn't have gotten on the plane and he needed them in a trapped situation where Sawyer would make his desperate move. The plane likely wouldn't have worked. The only thing I don't get is Locke had to have known Jack would get on the sub and he only did that to carry Kate after she was shot.
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Without Jack on the sub, blowing it up would be pointless, since Jack wouldn't be killed and he wanted to get them all. So putting the bomb in Jack's sack guarantees the sub only blows up if Jack is on board.

However, if Jack didn't get on board, the rest of the losties would have just escaped, so that would have sucked for Smokey!
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Why didnt Locke just let them get on the plane and blow them up there. Why did he get them onto the Sub instead?
'Cause it would be much easier to get rid of the bomb on a plane.
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