Zeitgeist, 9/11, and Other Conspiracies

[Tower]

Originally Posted by Thor

lol such amusing nonsense.

It's compelling to read. Like my science fiction novels it's as if I'm reading someones elaborate fantasy of which they just don't want to publish. (which sure seems thought out). The questions and responses are fun to read.


"That is all I have time for at present. I have a Sacrifice I must attend now.
No, not really."


"We (our Bloodline Families), as a Group Soul or Social Memory Complex (Lucifer), were on the verge of Seventh Density Ascension, though at this level, before Harvest comes, we have the choice to progress higher, or, to return to help others of lower densities with their own evolution, by passing down our knowledge and Wisdom (Light) to those that call upon us for assistance, with their own Free Will."

[photon]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizot...ality_disorder

The people who write that stuff should really see a mental health professional.

[photon]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

I'm going to come back to this thread after I read a couple books on the Bilderberg Group. I ordered them yesterday. It is very interesting. And no.......Alex Jones has not written a book on the Bilderberg Group.

The ones by Estulin?

[Tower]

Originally Posted by photon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizot...ality_disorder

The people who write that stuff should really see a mental health professional.

And there you go.... Pooing on it.

Yes the OP seems like he/she is a bit off. The writer(s) could also be having fun with the readers. Throwing out ideas to see how they grow or further testing the ideas to see how far it will go. A means to an end that has been thought planned. Perhaps a movie deal! They seem similar as to ideas but are different in details.

Pray to the light or the harvest will pluck you to the negative... You don't want the negative! A ton of ideas are flowing through me creatively. For writing this is a great catalyst.

[photon]

Originally Posted by Tower

Yes the OP seems like he/she is a bit off. The writer(s) could also be having fun with the readers. Throwing out ideas to see how they grow or further testing the ideas to see how far it will go.

Is this what you do as well?

Fiction while being upfront about it = good.

Fiction while pretending it's not fiction = immoral.

See, in society, saying one thing while meaning another is called lying, and is more often than not bad behaviour. It's immoral. Doing it for your own gain (so you can sell books maybe) is even more-so.

An individual who would create something like that just to have fun with others or just to see how far an idea will go has mental health issues.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by photon

The ones by Estulin?

Yeah, he is one of them. Jim Tucker and Jon Ronson are others.

Haha, I am also tempted to buy an interview of Aaron Russo;

"In an historic final interview, filmmaker and music promoter Aaron Russo goes in depth on the insider-knowledge given to him by a member of the Rockefeller family. Russo was told-- prior to 9/11-- of plans to stage terror attacks, invade foreign nations, and kickstart a high-tech police state control grid that would track the populations' every move with implantable RFID"

Here is a link with a short video with Russo talking about the Federal Reserve. FREAKY stuff!!
http://infowars-shop.stores.yahoo.net/reandwainwia.html

[Tower]

Originally Posted by photon

Is this what you do as well?

Fiction while being upfront about it = good.

Fiction while pretending it's not fiction = immoral.

See, in society, saying one thing while meaning another is called lying, and is more often than not bad behaviour. It's immoral. Doing it for your own gain (so you can sell books maybe) is even more-so.

An individual who would create something like that just to have fun with others or just to see how far an idea will go has mental health issues.

What if you can't get proper response while being upfront. Responses would be completely different no?

Take these two for example. Who would play along if they were not real? "Hey guy's I'm part of an elite family (not really) so ask me some questions!" They are sensational. They are completely off the creative charts. One guy or gal can decide what they want to think about it. They can be negatively responsive or positively responsive or not respond at all. I found it very interesting as to some of the posts that were not answered.

If you're talking about heaven and hell are you going to go to a mechanics site? Hell no! You go to people who are talking about it all day. Imagine the response if someone came here with that ideology/topic. They would get nowhere and I bet annihilated here. There it was embraced. Immoral? Really? I see much more immoral things happening around us than that.

[Azure]

Please don't tell me you actually spent MONEY on books about this stuff Mikey.

Cause you've just jumped from stage 1 to stage 3 in a few days.

[photon]

Originally Posted by Tower

What if you can't get proper response while being upfront. Responses would be completely different no?

Take these two for example. Who would play along if they were not real?

"Proper response"... proper for who? The person who posted it who's stroking their little ego? "Who would play along". The ends of having someone play along in the little charade is more important than any means of deception?

What if I can't get proper money while being honest about my scam?

How narcissistic.

Not uncommon among those kinds of people though, people like Alex Jones, that architect mentioned earlier, etc, all are just regular people, nothing special. And that bothers them so much that they have to manufacture or attach themselves to this stuff so they can feel important. It's like pretending you have a disability so you can go win all the gold medals at the Special Olympics.

Originally Posted by Tower

Immoral? Really? I see much more immoral things happening around us than that.

You don't see how this simple sentence would be deeply troubling to most people?

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by Azure

Please don't tell me you actually spent MONEY on books about this stuff Mikey.

Cause you've just jumped from stage 1 to stage 3 in a few days.

The one I ordered today was like 20 bucks, big deal. I've pissed more money out the window for dumber things,..........like that gym pass I didn't use......

I don't think it is fair to dismiss something as stupid just because it seems a little "out there"..........the Aaron Russo interview looks both fascinating and entertaining at the same time.
And is the concept of RFID chips really that far off? Some people have already had their babies chipped.

[Azure]

Oh man, please don't bring up those chips.

I can't believe you would spend YOUR money on that crap.

I've seen someone completely ruin is life, push away his family, his grandkids, everyone because of like this. Its not worth it.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by Azure

Oh man, please don't bring up those chips.

I can't believe you would spend YOUR money on that crap.

I've seen someone completely ruin is life, push away his family, his grandkids, everyone because of like this. Its not worth it.

HAHA........I don't take it THAT seriously. Besides, I'm gonna try and rip the interview off somewhere first.

And people have chipped their babies. Hell it was on CNN.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

HAHA........I don't take it THAT seriously. Besides, I'm gonna try and rip the interview off somewhere first.

And people have chipped their babies. Hell it was on CNN.

I'm saying this is where it all starts. The person I'm talking about only started with small steps as well. Soon enough he was full board into it.

Chipping babies is not a big deal. We all have GPS in our phones. Big deal.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by Azure

I'm saying this is where it all starts. The person I'm talking about only started with small steps as well. Soon enough he was full board into it.

Chipping babies is not a big deal. We all have GPS in our phones. Big deal.

What if....hypothetically, we all had get chipped for security, travel, and financial purposes? Would you sign up for that? Count me out.......
I don't want someone knowing my every move. Not that I am a shady person, but that is not my definition of freedom.

[photon]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

And people have chipped their babies. Hell it was on CNN.

Link please.

Babies get RFID chips attached to them in maternity wards to prevent babies getting mixed up.

If you are claiming people are getting their kids injected with RFID chips, you'll have to support that claim. I know a few adults that have done it.

You do realize that RFID chips aren't magic right? They're short range and low power, they can't track you everywhere you go every moment just because you have a tiny chip.

It gets queried by a reader and replies. The reader has to be connected to a database to be able to correlate the ID in the chip with other information about you. So if you have an RFID chip to pay for your gas, the government would have to have access to that private company database. To every private company database that used the tags.

Are you worried about being tracked by your credit card #? Because tracking by RFID would be the exact same kind of feat. Better give up your credit cards now because the government is tracking you by them.

Defeating an RFID chip is also very easy; place it in a faraday cage. They make wallets that do this. Done, chip is now inaccessible.

EDIT: Lol @ requiring people to get chipped.. in the right hand or the forehead maybe? Mark of the beast? Even in the UK where they're far far worse with respect to rights and privacy they don't do that.

[Tower]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

What if....hypothetically, we all had get chipped for security, travel, and financial purposes? Would you sign up for that? Count me out.......
I don't want someone knowing my every move. Not that I am a shady person, but that is not my definition of freedom.

I do have to agree with the previous posters. If such a commodity exists then we must chose. Is it worth it? Is the fear of loosing a child in a hospital (which really never happens but in movies) a reason to bug them? The fear of distrust apparent that we feel out protection is so apparent that an implant is needed to consistently track them. What age should they be that it is safe to remove? I should pray....

[Tower]

Originally Posted by photon

"Proper response"... proper for who? The person who posted it who's stroking their little ego? "Who would play along". The ends of having someone play along in the little charade is more important than any means of deception?

What if I can't get proper money while being honest about my scam?

How narcissistic.

Not uncommon among those kinds of people though, people like Alex Jones, that architect mentioned earlier, etc, all are just regular people, nothing special. And that bothers them so much that they have to manufacture or attach themselves to this stuff so they can feel important. It's like pretending you have a disability so you can go win all the gold medals at the Special Olympics.



You don't see how this simple sentence would be deeply troubling to most people?

Deception? Is that wrong? So if deception is important to you then perhaps honesty is important as well. Locke says it is okay to rape as long as you say surprise first... is that wrong? Was he serious? I have no clue if the OP's of the links I posted are making money or are serious, however I have many posts of op's being "hopefully dishonest" about their posts. If what they say ends up happening in real life, would it make it different? Or are they responsible? Is Locke his real name? Or is that name a fiction that can not be tried in law? It's like you use fake names and pretend they are real names and mix them both with this forum to believe they are true names such as the op fotze or reggie (of whom I adore) of whom has been here like, forever man! I'm sure every thing they says is fact and honest. Locke, reggie, fotze to the best of my knowledge could be special... I don't know as I never met them (except Reggie and he's super!). But that is the point. They can be who they want. And on this board say what they want to a point. Should I bring up the posts that they say what we hope they do not mean? Seriously? Is what they say in some posts not wrong? Bah whatever.... Judge not say's the bible. I've never read it, but I heard that some place... as far as believing in the deception? Have the government not brought this upon themselves? Are they up most honest servants of the people who should answer all questions honestly and upfront as if nothing should be hidden? Let's audit them if they are for the people..... Start there at this post.

Lets make our names the same as our birth certificate... then honesty will come forth and no argument can come forward about honesty as the liars can be brought to judgement.

[Tower]

Originally Posted by Tower

Deception? Is that wrong? So if deception is important to you then perhaps honesty is important as well. Locke says it is okay to rape as long as you say surprise first... is that wrong? Was he serious? I have no clue if the OP's of the links I posted are making money or are serious, however I have many posts of op's being "hopefully dishonest" about their posts. If what they say ends up happening in real life, would it make it different? Or are they responsible? Is Locke his real name? Or is that name a fiction that can not be tried in law? It's like you use fake names and pretend they are real names and mix them both with this forum to believe they are true names such as the op fotze or reggie (of whom I adore) of whom has been here like, forever man! I'm sure every thing they says is fact and honest. Locke, reggie, fotze to the best of my knowledge could be special... I don't know as I never met them (except Reggie and he's super!). But that is the point. They can be who they want. And on this board say what they want to a point. Should I bring up the posts that they say what we hope they do not mean? Seriously? Is what they say in some posts not wrong? Bah whatever.... Judge not say's the bible. I've never read it, but I heard that some place... as far as believing in the deception? Have the government not brought this upon themselves? Are they up most honest servants of the people who should answer all questions honestly and upfront as if nothing should be hidden? Let's audit them if they are for the people..... Start there at this post.

Lets make our names the same as our birth certificate... then honesty will come forth and no argument can come forward about honesty.

"It's like you use fake names and pretend they are real names and mix them both with this forum to believe they are true names such as the op fotze or reggie (of whom I adore) of whom has been here like, forever man!"

Oh ya.. i meant that line....

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

What if....hypothetically, we all had get chipped for security, travel, and financial purposes? Would you sign up for that? Count me out.......
I don't want someone knowing my every move. Not that I am a shady person, but that is not my definition of freedom.

Hypothetically, why would anyone pay to "track" all of us? What's the point?

If there was someone watching our every move, who pays the bills and why do they do it?

Who pays the guy that keeps tabs on Brian, the guy with the chip who is hanging a rat behind the Esso station?

[FlamingLonghorn]

If you are seriously concerned about being tracked than you better give up the internet, your phone, credit cards, etc... because the gov't is more than capable of tracking you if you use those objects right now.