[News] Waiver Wire Oct 2 - Prosvetov, Kerins clear. Avs claim Solovyov

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by JTech780

Solovyov isn't better than Bean, maybe Miromanov, but if they decide to send Parekh back to junior then Miromanov becomes the 7th defenseman on the team.

BS. My dog is better than Bean.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Don’t the Flames get first crack?

they do but I'm not sure if he can then be sent to the AHL...which is what they wanted in the first place. Or would they need to waive him again?

Most teams passed though

[devo22]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I think its likely the Avs waive him again...would the Flames be able to claim and send him to the AHL? or would he still need waivers?

if they are the only one putting in a claim, they can send him to the AHL.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

BS. My dog is better than Bean.

Probably think the same about Huska

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by devo22

if they are the only one putting in a claim, they can send him to the AHL.

Would the Flames know if anyone else made a claim, prior to putting him on waivers again? You'd think these days they would know.

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I think its likely the Avs waive him again...would the Flames be able to claim and send him to the AHL? or would he still need waivers?

If the avs waive him and only the flames put a claim in he can be sent to the AHL, I’m assuming if another team claims him it then goes by waiver wire priority

[bubbsy]

Mirimanov sucks, not good at offense, for an offensive dman, and not a good defender itself.

Don’t see him as an option in the short, medium or long term. Why he was kept over a dman the team invested in thru the draft and thru development , seems quite unfortunate.

Not a big deal in the long run, as Solovyov isn’t a sure fire nhl calibre dman today, and even if he is, probably tops out as a 5-7 guy. Still, an unnecessary and unfortunate loss ….

[Knut]

The Group 6 UFA stuff is really the part that makes this ok. It is unlikely he would play 65 NHL games this season and would be gone anyway.

Maybe he becomes Gustav Forsling.. but more likely in the KHL next year.

[YyjFlames]

The positive takeaway here is that Kerins cleared and now knows that he has to go down to the AHL and continue to work his ass off as no other team in the NHL was interested in him... yet.

That should be motivating for a guy like him. Guys who pass through waivers don't have the luxury of sulking about it.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Probably think the same about Huska

I think Huska would be a good coach for a large physical club. I think Bean just sucks period.

[This post is terrible]

This wouldn’t have happened if we still had Treliving!

[cannon7]

Losing Solo is pretty frustrating. Should've been Miromanov.

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Flames clearly think Soloyov is worse than those two guys, it’s really that simple.

I think it could be easily argued that Solo had a better camp than both of them. As such, this looks more like a business decision. They kept the vets with more NHL games and hoped the younger guy would clear. But Avs scouts pounced.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

I'm not happy about losing Solo either, but terrible asset management? really?!

• Former waiver pickups Hanley and Pachal were just as good as Solo in camp,
• Making Solo the 7th/8th best D-men at best.
• Solo was a 7th round pick.
• Solo is already 25, and one year younger than Pachal.
• What is the best return Solo could've gotten you back in a trade? A 6th rounder?

More over this frees up a spot on the Wranglers giving younger guys like Morin, Brzustewicz, and Kuznetsov more playing time in the AHL, and likely the first call-up.

Prospect with no NHL experience was as good as 2 vets (waiver-wire vets mind you)…perhaps there’s a chance he’d be better if he got actual experience? In most professions you need to be good enough to get in but then learn a hell of a lot on the job. Oh well.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by AC

Disappointed to lose Solovyov but he's also much closer to being what he is at 25, only a year younger than Pachal.

Brzustewicz is 20, Grushnikov is 22, Kuznetsov is 23.

Still would have preferred waiving Miromanov first and tried sneaking Solo down on the last day.

I prefer Solo to Miromanov or Bean easily, like not even close to be honest but Solovyov is 25 years old and while he looked ready the readiness was a bottom pairing or 7th dman role. We picked Pachel off waivers when he was 24, was that amazing asset management? No absolutely not. The Flames have an a absolute glut of fringe blue liners. I won't lose much sleep over this or cry about it like when Schwindt won some face offs last year.

[dino7c]

Flames still have more waiving to do so Miro is likley waived too so that argument is kinda silly

If Solo had trade value nearly the entire league wouldnt have passed on him for free...all the bad teams

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by BigThief

I prefer Solo to Miromanov or Bean easily, like not even close to be honest but Solovyov is 25 years old and while he looked ready the readiness was a bottom pairing or 7th dman role. We picked Pachel off waivers when he was 24, was that amazing asset management? No absolutely not. The Flames have an a absolute glut of fringe blue liners. I won't lose much sleep over this or cry about it like when Schwindt won some face offs last year.

I thought Solovyov looked good with Pachal. Very frustrating that we lost him so that we could... see more of Bean and Miromanov instead.

Oh well. Hopefully this opens the door for a Kuznetsov transition to the NHL this year.

[Muta]

31 other teams couldn't Kerins less

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by cannon7

I think it could be easily argued that Solo had a better camp than both of them. As such, this looks more like a business decision. They kept the vets with more NHL games and hoped the younger guy would clear. But Avs scouts pounced.

Argued is the key word. We will see and maybe this one will be the one that bites the Flames in the ass but I highly doubt it. If prospects turn out then Bean, Miramanov, and Soloyov wouldn't have been on the team next season anyways.

[Ped]

If the Avs put Solo on waivers, the Flames do not get priority to get him back. Waiver wire priority is last year's standings reversed. If another team higher on the list than the Flames, then the other team gets him. If another team lower on the list than the Flames makes a claim, then the Flames get him but would have to waive him again in order to send him to the AHL. If the Flames claim him and no other team put in a claim, they can send him straight to the AHL without putting on waivers again.