[Rumour] Flames to name Conroy GM. Nonis in an executive role; Iginla advisor

[metroneck]

Originally Posted by DazzlinDino

Those guys got rewarded and promoted after failing at thier jobs. That's not what's happening here. I don't think that's a fair comparison at this point.

Have to agree…. Having a bunch of Bro’s with titles, but no real role is very different than former teammates who find themselves together, after working up the ranks in different organizations.

[Azure]

Conroy has 9 years of experience and the Flames have great player development & drafting, both things that he seemed to look after.

Why not give him a chance?

I don't get the point of having someone in the fold for a decade, being taught everything about the game, but then when the time comes to take the next step he's not good enough and we want the team to kick him to the curb. Strange take.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I don't get the gloom.

We need two things stability and a positive outlook.

Conroy brings that and if it's Iggy he brings it as well.

Too much negativity around the team with coaches and management not aligned.

I'd much rather have people who share the same vision and get along than a coach throwing shots at the manager through the media.

[Freeway]

There's so much yet to be announced and/or cemented that it seems incredibly premature to declare the moves (that haven't fully happened yet) to be smart or stupid.


This is Schroedinger's hockey operations department right now.

[Reggie Dunlop]

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Azure

Conroy has 9 years of experience and the Flames have great player development & drafting, both things that he seemed to look after.

Why not give him a chance?

I don't get the point of having someone in the fold for a decade, being taught everything about the game, but then when the time comes to take the next step he's not good enough and we want the team to kick him to the curb. Strange take.

The Flames have great player development and drafting???? Based on what?

If that is the case then the job that Treliviing is one of the worst GM jobs in the history of hockey considering we were never close to competing, have missed the play-offs almost as much as made it and when we did we did nothing.

If we did all that with great drafting and development, ouch.

[ricardodw]

Treliving left Conroy a mess

The Flames have 6 players signed for 2025-26 for 40 M..

Players and age in 25-26

Huberdeau 32, Kadri 35, Coleman 34, Weegar 31, Andersson 29 Markstrom 35

4 of these contracts are untradeable

The core players are in their contract year and 1 year away from UFA

Lindholm, Toffoli, Backlund, Tanev, Hanifin where do these guys and their agents feel they fit in the Flames salary structure. They all are coming off better seasons than Kadri/ Huberdeau. How much of a Flames discount would be reasonably be expected? Anyone of them sign for less than Mangipane's 3 x 5.8?

Or does Conroy hang onto them unsigned until TDL and kick off the rebuild?

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by Freeway

This is Schroedinger's hockey operations department right now.

That's a good line.

[Jiggy_12]

Maybe getting a group of people who get along well and might work well together could be…a good thing?

We’re all caught up on making fun of the old boys club but what the hell have the current/past Flames done to show they did things the right way?

Treading in mediocrity for 2 decades and a completely defunct management and coaching group.

Yeah, I’m ready for something new. If that’s an old boys club or people that work well together and have the same vision - then sign me right the helll up

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Spurs

The Flames have great player development and drafting???? Based on what?

If that is the case then the job that Treliviing is one of the worst GM jobs in the history of hockey considering we were never close to competing, have missed the play-offs almost as much as made it and when we did we did nothing.

If we did all that with great drafting and development, ouch.

Drafting was good
Lack of picks was the problem

[mile]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Should mention Andrew Brunette. Huberdeau connection isn't insignificant.

Conroy and Iginla know Tanguay very well. Both think very highly of Tanguay and has a highly offensive mind.

Has heard Calgary wants to improve offense, not only in players, but how the players are taught, the way they play, encouragement of offensive game.

Marek throws out Marc Savard as a potential candidate. Friedman agrees.

Maloney has also said that he wants more scoring and talent, that it's not a 2-1 or 3-2 league anymore.


Sounds like we will get a more entertaining team next season

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by mile

Maloney has also said that he wants more scoring and talent, that it's not a 2-1 or 3-2 league anymore.


Sounds like we will get a more entertaining team next season

He also said some players voiced their displeasure about other players in the exit meetings.

I wonder if it's Kadri.

The more entertaining brand of hockey will be fun.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by mile

Maloney has also said that he wants more scoring and talent, that it's not a 2-1 or 3-2 league anymore.


Sounds like we will get a more entertaining team next season

If only it was that simple.

Perhaps he should say he "wants a Stanley Cup winning team next year".

Yes, Calgary needs more talent, but when you best players are already making a fair bit of money and will shortly be making more, your hands are tied in getting that talent.

Calgary needs to get younger, before they get really, really old.

And that means rebuilding, buy not signing their soon to be older UFA's to contracts that will choke them sooner than later, but trading them for picks and prospects.

Calgary will get worse before they get better. But do they wait for the slow decline and then rebuild from ground floor, or do they kick start the rebuild while they have some assets that are actually worth something?

Just look at what some of our opponents are doing. Chicago went scorched earth when it was clear their team was going no where.

Now they have an excellent prospect pool, Bedard, tons of drafts picks over the next 3 years and the cap space of an expansion team.

Yes, their team sucks today, but it's only a matter of time before they are better than the Flames.

The Flames are literally the opposite of the Hawks. Zero cap room, a middling prospect pool, less than average draft picks, but some decent players signed for too long and too much money. The one thing they do have over the Hawks is a decent number of UFA's that would bring a good return. Unless they squander that advantage by turning them into the "decent players signed for too long and too much money" group.

I don't expect that the Flames will rebuild, that's simply not the owners style, until they have no choice. I expect it won't be Conroy's decision, and even if he had believed it, we would have kept that opinion to himself. I doubt he would have been hired if he had expressed that opinion.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Drafting was good
Lack of picks was the problem

I think the drafting has been good, great definitely debatable, development being great I can’t see that at all.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Drafting was good
Lack of picks was the problem

Liked it when tree moneyballed the Zary draft and netted 2 3rd by dropping down.

Mailed the poirier pick. Whiffed on boltmann.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I don't know two of the players we developed are the talk of the playoffs right now.

Plus we don't know about others no one has been given a chance the last two years.

They have been great at identifying star level talent in the draft and not just the 1st round.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Drafting was good
Lack of picks was the problem

And hopefully that changes

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

He also said some players voiced their displeasure about other players in the exit meetings.

I wonder if it's Kadri.

The more entertaining brand of hockey will be fun.

Even if it’s for a significant loss I hope Kadri is gone.

Set the proper tone right off the bat by trading his lazy bad attitude ass.

His play down the stretch was a disgrace.

He’s an embarrassment to the organization.

I have never disliked a Flames player more.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by Major Major

I say bring it on. It's meant to be fun and that would be fun. People only say old boys club when it doesn't work out, but these are all legitimately qualified people who just happen to be old teammates/buddies, so maybe it will work out. Only person I've heard who wouldn't be a candidate anywhere else based on experience is Jarome. But it's Jarome, so you do it.

Need to have some people here that are actually proud to be here after being dumped 3 times in a row.

Great point. Hopefully the Conroy appointment and whatever comes along with it restores some optimism and positivity around the franchise again.

[1Nite]

It's great when fans of other teams give their insight and great wisdom on the Flames.