Enough is enough - Bring up Wolf.

[Erick Estrada]

Once they are eliminated it may not be a bad thing to give Wolf a few starts down the stretch for him to get an idea what he will need to work on over the summer to get more ready for the pro game. I just don't think the organization can afford to come back with Markstrom and Vladar next season. One of them needs to be moved as they are just not reliable enough of a tandem. Markstrom in particular looks like he's got one foot out the NHL door as I'm getting second season Hiller flashbacks watching him play.

[MegaErtz]

Who is going to take Markstrom off our hands? One of the worst contracts in the NHL. We're stuck with him for another three years.

[Naitix]

Originally Posted by MegaErtz

Who is going to take Markstrom off our hands? One of the worst contracts in the NHL. We're stuck with him for another three years.

Lol it really isn't, he is having a bad year after being a Vezina finalist last season. He is quite tradeable, he only has 3 more years after this one

[dirk diggler]

Originally Posted by Naitix

Lol it really isn't, he is having a bad year after being a Vezina finalist last season. He is quite tradeable, he only has 3 more years after this one

Agreed, this isnt a franchise crippling contract, not like the Huberdeau one

[MegaErtz]

He has negative trade value carrying a cap hit of six million a season for three more seasons. He is literally the worst goalie in the league and we wouldn't get a seventh round pick back for him. Similar to Monahan last year, we'd have to package multiple picks to get his contract off the books.

[GullFoss]

If wolf is called up and is a legit starting goalie, flames could trade marky with 50% retained and still come out ahead given wolf's low cap hit. They could also just buyout markys contract.

The only contract of concern on the flames is Hubys. And I actually think he's still tradable for little return to a team like Detroit or Columbus. Wouldn't have to sacrifice assets and could free up cap space.

[CFO]

Originally Posted by MegaErtz

He has negative trade value carrying a cap hit of six million a season for three more seasons. He is literally the worst goalie in the league and we wouldn't get a seventh round pick back for him. Similar to Monahan last year, we'd have to package multiple picks to get his contract off the books.

If flames retained 50% - worst case it's like a team picking up an experience veteran for a backup for 3 years. Doable.

[MegaErtz]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

If wolf is called up and is a legit starting goalie, flames could trade marky with 50% retained and still come out ahead given wolf's low cap hit. They could also just buyout markys contract.

The only contract of concern on the flames is Hubys. And I actually think he's still tradable for little return to a team like Detroit or Columbus. Wouldn't have to sacrifice assets and could free up cap space.

Khadri is carrying a cap hit of seven million dollars a year until he's almost 39 years old! He's not worth seven million a year now, at age 32.

[Naitix]

Goalie contracts are different from skaters. Goalies are always inconsistent year in and year out, every year you can’t predict who will be the best goalies, unlike with skaters. Teams always take on goalies with good history as reclamation because a lot of the times goalies do bounce back

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Naitix

Goalie contracts are different from skaters. Goalies are always inconsistent year in and year out, every year you can’t predict who will be the best goalies, unlike with skaters. Teams always take on goalies with good history as reclamation because a lot of the times goalies do bounce back

Yup.
This survey is less than a month old:

https://www.espn.com/nhl/insider/ins...yers-vote-best

Markstrom is #8.
That would suggest there is still a market for him, and broader faith that he can rebound.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Naitix

he is having a bad year after being a Vezina finalist last season.

Which is why it's unlikely the Flames are even entertaining the thought of trading him right now. If he has a repeat next season then you think about parting ways.

If someone goes to make room for Wolf it's most likely Vladar. I always thought his extension was a backup plan if Wolf wasn't able to make the jump the next couple of seasons.

[Major Major]

I think he'd be great on a rebuilding team like SJ. He would have a lot of runway to turn it around. No pressure. As soon as he does he either becomes a valuable trade piece or someone who helps mentor a young goalie. And if he's still a disaster, you get better picks.

[GreenLantern2814]

Just so everyone is clear - the Carolina Hurricanes are the only team allowing fewer shots than us.

They’ve received 40 games of .905-.908 goaltending from Andersen and Raanta, and 18 games of off .913 from Kochetkov.

They’re 2nd in GA and 11th in GF, and 1st in the metro.

Call up Wolf.

Call up Wolf or sell.

But don’t not call him up and lie to us that playoffs are the goal.

Don’t #### on our plate and call it ice cream.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Just so everyone is clear - the Carolina Hurricanes are the only team allowing fewer shots than us.

They’ve received 40 games of .905-.908 goaltending from Andersen and Raanta, and 18 games of off .913 from Kochetkov.

They’re 2nd in GA and 11th in GF, and 1st in the metro.

Call up Wolf.

Call up Wolf or sell.

But don’t not call him up and lie to us that pl ayoffs are the goal.

Don’t #### on our plate and call it ice cream.

1,000,000x

It was only a mild preference if you consciously opt not to use the best goalie in your organization and seives instead


Mm, ice cream.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Naitix

Goalie contracts are different from skaters. Goalies are always inconsistent year in and year out, every year you can’t predict who will be the best goalies, unlike with skaters. Teams always take on goalies with good history as reclamation because a lot of the times goalies do bounce back

If the Leafs bomb in the playoffs again you can bet they will be in the market as will several teams in the offseason. I would take the last year of Murray's contract to unload the last three years of Markstrom's contract.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

If wolf is called up and is a legit starting goalie, flames could trade marky with 50% retained and still come out ahead given wolf's low cap hit. They could also just buyout markys contract.

The only contract of concern on the flames is Hubys. And I actually think he's still tradable for little return to a team like Detroit or Columbus. Wouldn't have to sacrifice assets and could free up cap space.

There is next to no chance any team is looking to grab Huberdeau off our hands without sending something equally as franchise killing back. That's a hard ask given he could turn out to be on one of the worst deals in the NHL if this play continues beyond this year.

The best hope now is that he rebounds to a 70 point player next year, but judging on what I've seen this season, it will be a tall ask.

It's kind of surprising the team didn't try to give Wolf a go while Markstrom is away for a day or two. Very easy to tell him to take 3-4 days and give our top prospect a shot at a start or two.

[NegativeSpace]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Flames will never win a cup until they're willing to take gambles like this

Binnington, Murray... You literally have evidence in just the last handful of seasons that these types of moves can pay off

Leaving aside that they almost got beat by a young goalie single handedly in the playoffs last year.

[Sylvanfan]

At this point they might fear Wolf playing well at the NHL could make them look foolish.

[I_H8_Crawford]

They won’t bring him up now. Time to sell and tank. Having a goalie who can actually make saves would be counterproductive.

Not to mention how stupid they would look if he came up and was competent.

[Boreal]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

At this point they might fear Wolf playing well at the NHL could make them look foolish.

Yeah that’s it, or maybe everyone will figure out they are secretly reverse vampires.