11-20-2020, 11:54 AM
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#361
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Finland
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Välimäki assisted Ilves' game winning goal (6-5). Great pass to Suomi splitting the defence, and Suomi one-timed GWG easily.
E: Juuso ended up with 0+2 (that goal has been changed to a primary assist).
https://twitter.com/user/status/1329861443894857728
Last edited by Unknown; 11-20-2020 at 12:04 PM.
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11-20-2020, 12:01 PM
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#362
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Based on what I've seen from Tampere this season, Eemeli Suomi is a stud and I think he'll be generating NHL interest here pretty soon.
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11-20-2020, 12:08 PM
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#363
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Finland
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Välimäki was +4 today.
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11-20-2020, 12:10 PM
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#364
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Drool. I cant wait to see him in a full NHL season. If I buy another jersey soon it will be his.
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11-20-2020, 12:10 PM
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#365
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
I'm just happy to see a d-man that can shoot that nice low hard along the ice shot that's great for tips.
Feel like our d-men were always looking for top corners and tougher to tip those.
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It really speaks to his high hockey IQ.
Such an exciting prospect.
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11-20-2020, 12:20 PM
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#366
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#1 Goaltender
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Haven’t been this excited about a Flames prospect since Johnny at the world juniors
What makes him so exciting is that there really isn’t a weakness to his game. He seems to have ice in his veins, even playing in the NHL in the playoffs as a 20 year old. Just zero panic in all situations
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11-20-2020, 12:28 PM
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#367
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Powerplay Quarterback
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He has all the tools and a pretty damn good toolbox too. And on top of that, he has poise, and that's hard to find in young developing defenders.
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11-20-2020, 01:18 PM
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#368
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First Line Centre
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What's most amazing is how much damage he does at 5 on 5.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1329850205202771970
just casually goes end to end, generates a good shot on goal, and centres from behind the net for another good shot
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11-20-2020, 01:38 PM
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#369
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary
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I cannot get over all the second guessing and he's injury prone blah blah blah bullshirt .
This guy wins multiple NORRIS before he retires .....and is a flame .
Keep playing Juice and kick some ass when we resume .
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11-20-2020, 01:42 PM
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#370
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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Woah woah..........I really like him a lot, but let's slow down with the Norris talk. There are a lot of great young d-men already in the league. He's got a ways to go.
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11-20-2020, 03:49 PM
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#371
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan
Woah woah..........I really like him a lot, but let's slow down with the Norris talk. There are a lot of great young d-men already in the league. He's got a ways to go.
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Ya... he’s not even the best dman from his country from his draft year so any talk of this is insanely premature
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11-20-2020, 04:16 PM
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#372
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EVERLAST
I cannot get over all the second guessing and he's injury prone blah blah blah bullshirt .
This guy wins multiple NORRIS before he retires .....and is a flame .
Keep playing Juice and kick some ass when we resume .
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Lets back it up to maybe the Conn Smythe Trophy.
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11-20-2020, 08:17 PM
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#373
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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With 17 pts in 16 games, Val is the highest scoring D man in the liiga. His next closest comparable (by my search) has 14 pts. Ville Heinola, who’s a pretty highly touted prospect for the Jets, has 10 pts.
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11-20-2020, 10:21 PM
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#374
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Next jersey will be a Home retro Valimaki.
God it’s nice to want to buy a home jersey for the first time being a fan at 34 years old.
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11-20-2020, 10:43 PM
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#375
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMike
Next jersey will be a Home retro Valimaki.
God it’s nice to want to buy a home jersey for the first time being a fan at 34 years old.
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They’re just called the home jerseys now
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11-21-2020, 01:03 AM
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#376
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Nanaimo
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My biggest concern is his adjustment back to small ice. Yes he was great in the whl on smal ice but he's gotta get that game back. Is je as good as he is vs men on larger ice or goes he suffer from coming from bigger ice back to smaller ice like we see with alot of khl/ european players?
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11-21-2020, 01:11 AM
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#377
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by combustiblefuel
My biggest concern is his adjustment back to small ice. Yes he was great in the whl on smal ice but he's gotta get that game back. Is je as good as he is vs men on larger ice or goes he suffer from coming from bigger ice back to smaller ice like we see with alot of khl/ european players?
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While Liiga teams use different rink sizes (190-197ft × 92-98ft), Valimaki's team, Ilves, plays as close to NHL rink size (200ft + 85ft) as any team in the league (197ft × 92ft).
While it'll be a little adjustment, it's not all that drastic
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11-21-2020, 01:55 AM
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#378
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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In his rookie year as a pro, which was also his D+2 year, he put up 14pts in 20 games in the AHL-pretty dazzling numbers for a 20 year old. I think he's comfortable on smaller ice.
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11-21-2020, 08:53 AM
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#379
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandman
With 17 pts in 16 games, Val is the highest scoring D man in the liiga. His next closest comparable (by my search) has 14 pts. Ville Heinola, who’s a pretty highly touted prospect for the Jets, has 10 pts.
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On the flip side of this comparable game: Arizona gave Vili Saarijarvi a 23 year old 3 year AHL veteran (3rd round pick of Detroit) a qualifying offer which looks as though he hasn't signed.
He has 5 goals and 13 pts playing in 13 games +12 playing 20:59 as a RD ( shoots Right)
I haven't seen any reports or expectations that based on his top play in Liiga he will even be given much of a chance to finally get into the NHL.
There might not be a direct translation of the play in Liiga to NHL success.
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11-21-2020, 09:13 AM
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#380
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodw
On the flip side of this comparable game: Arizona gave Vili Saarijarvi a 23 year old 3 year AHL veteran (3rd round pick of Detroit) a qualifying offer which looks as though he hasn't signed.
He has 5 goals and 13 pts playing in 13 games +12 playing 20:59 as a RD ( shoots Right)
I haven't seen any reports or expectations that based on his top play in Liiga he will even be given much of a chance to finally get into the NHL.
There might not be a direct translation of the play in Liiga to NHL success.
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We've been saying for pages that the Liiga is just above the AHL and not by much. His point production in Liiga will not translate into a point per game defenseman at the NHL level, and we all know that.
His current production points to a 39 point NHL season given the averages in NHLe.
I'd maybe give Valimaki a bit of a boost because of how quickly he's adjusting to a league just above the AHL level after missing a year of hockey, but it still a 35-40 point comparable.
No controversy here.
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