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Old 08-07-2020, 09:50 AM   #361
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A couple gems from the ATL...

"hope laffy likes -40 and ####ty wifi"

Also the complete lack of self-awareness from an Oiler fan with this delusional tidbit...

"Flames are going to get dusted next round. Feel for their fans, waiting 4.5 months to watch everything evaporate in game 1."

Umm, at least our team has made it to game 1.
Losing this round would have been awful, for the exact reason mentioned in that last quote. It's nice to have something to look forward to.
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Old 08-07-2020, 09:54 AM   #362
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So much to like from last night's game...

Yes, the injuries were unfortunate, and beating a depleted Jets team takes a little bit of the joy out of the win, but the important thing, IMO, is that the Flames didn't just win this series, they went out and won it decisively. They got better every game, and they exorcised some demons. They got the job done and got stronger and stronger doing it.

Loved the way they pushed the game forward last night - led by Bennett and Dube.

Loved the team defense, keeping the Jets to the perimeter, tons of examples of individuals busting their asses on the backcheck.

Watching Hanifin-Andersson was just a treat. They dominated. The entire D crew was really good. Yes, Gio struggled a bit, but 38 year old legs take a little longer to get into gear. Also, he has not experienced much personal success in the playoffs, so he has some personal challenges weighing him down. I fully expect him to get better with each game as we move forward.

Tip of the cap to Talbot. He wasn't tested a lot, and he didn't have to make too many 5 alarm saves, but he was square to the shooters the entire series, and he did his job flawlessly. That is exactly what you want from your goalie.

Still need this team to prove more to me, but they sure made a positive statement in games 3 and 4. Really looking forward to seeing if they can raise the bar further in the next round - and feeling a LOT better about their chances of doing so!
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Old 08-07-2020, 09:54 AM   #363
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Boy oh boy that was great! Was impressed by everyone on the team almost the entire series. It starts in net and the decision to start Cambot was obviously the right one. Calm and cool in net. No weak goals. Some highlight saves when needed. What a season he's having and hopefully for a while longer. Feels so damn good to not worry with time left in the game and the Jets pressing. Talbot was a brick wall from start to finish.

I'm also sorry for every doubting Bennett and wanting to trade him. As other have said, playoff Bennett is absolutely a thing . He might leave you wanting more in the regular season, but he's proven time and time again he saves it for when it matters. Lock him up longterm please and thank you!

Loved how the top 3 lines came in waves. Ever since the Detroit teams used to come in waves at you during the 2000s, I've always dreamed of having a Flames team being able to do the same. It feels like a 1-2-3 punch. Nice to see.

The D has looked great too. The Flames absolutely MUST find a way to keep Brodie. I think it's more then obvious that the GG years were the outliers and not his norm. Brodie was trending upwards before those years and he's picked up where he left off once GG left. He can skate against anybody in the league and is so dynamic when he's on. His skillset will keep him playing well into his late 30s. Flames will regret losing him, so please BT find a way to keep him!

The list goes on of players that stepped up. It's going to get a lot harder next series but I am cautiously optimistic the Flames can play any style regardless of the opponent.
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Old 08-07-2020, 09:59 AM   #364
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Ok....but i guess what I'm asking is how does the bracket work when determined?
1 vs 8
2 vs 7
???? And on and on?
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Yes that’s how it goes.

I know the non play in series games Have something to do with seeding. I don’t know how it works though. Do they get 2 points for a win? Does regular season standings mean anything? I haven’t followed the non play in series at all. I have no idea how their current rankings are?
The top-4 teams are ranked exclusively based on their performance in their 3 round robin games. If there is a tie, the ranking will be determined by their regular season winning percentage, but at this point, there can't be any ties.

Right now, Colorado and Vegas are both 2-0 in the round robin and St Louis and Dallas are 0-2. Colorado and Vegas play each other on Saturday, the winner will be the #1 seed in the West, the loser will be the #2 seed. St Louis and Dallas play each other on Sunday, the winner will be the #3 seed and the loser will be #4.


The bottom half of the rankings are determined by the final regular season winning percentages of the 4 winning Qualifying Round teams. Because the Flames entered the Qualifying Round as the #8 team, their final position could still land anywhere from 5-8.

For every team that entered the QR ranked below the Flames that wins their qualifier, the Flames move up one spot. If all 3 of Minnesota, Arizona, and Chicago were to win, the Flames would be the 5th seed and play the 4th seed in the first round. If all 3 of Nashville, Vancouver, and Edmonton win, the Flames will be the 8th seed and play the 1st seed in the first round.


Here's where every team could end up in the rankings pending this weekend's results:
1. Colorado/Vegas
2. Vegas/Colorado
3. St. Louis/Dallas
4. Dallas/St. Louis
5. Edmonton/Nashville/Vancouver/Calgary
6. Nashville/Vancouver/Calgary/Minnesota
7. Vancouver/Calgary/Minnesota/Arizona
8. Calgary/Minnesota/Arizona/Chicago
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Old 08-07-2020, 10:00 AM   #365
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that is one happy horse

(and you can't blame him)
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Against colorado in the regular season or...?
Because we didn't have Lucic last post season.

sorry, I was on crack with that one.


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Hope the Flames can find a way to re-sign Brodie. Still fine with letting Hamonic walk. Hamonic may be a Jet next season.
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HAHAHA stupid JETS/WINNIPEG
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Bring any of them on, if they're gonna win a cup they have to go through at least two of them. I do prefer to see the Flames play Dallas or STL though I think they'd be great series.

And like I said before, taking down the reigning champs is always a bonifide boost for a cup run.
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Old 08-07-2020, 10:34 AM   #370
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Dallas would be my preferred matchup by far, but I'd say they have a fair shot against any team but the Avs. No Avs please.
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Old 08-07-2020, 10:34 AM   #371
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I hope Colton Poolman turns out similar to his brother
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Old 08-07-2020, 10:44 AM   #372
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Some thoughts ...

Wow did Treliving have himself a trade deadline. Getting two poor man's second pairing defenders and making them your third pairing has really solidified Calgary's defense corps. Losing Hamonic would have been a much bigger blow if those trades didn't happen.

Plus the two acquired guys have certainly played a role in a huge step forward for Calgary's special teams.

Geoff Ward is moving towards being the guy if this is any indication of what he's capable of. The team is focused, paying attention to details, and playing some of the best defensive hockey we've seen from this team ... well ... ever.

Flames are 2nd in xGA/60 to Vegas, and 2nd in HDCA/60 to Washington. That's battening down the hatches ... and a solid foundation to win in the post season.

That also means it's puzzling to hear Calgary radio guys suggest Talbot was the team's MVP. I get it that we're not used to seeing good goaltending since 34 left, and that he's done his job perfectly, but he hasn't had to stand on his head at all.

The Flames are now a very deep hockey club. They're not getting a lot of five on five love from the top line, but they have four lines that can roll, and an emerging second core that could give opponents fits.

Mangiapane, Dube, Hanifin, Andersson all adding to the main core and making them a tough team to check. And Valimaki is coming ...
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Last night's game reminded me a lot of Game #7 in 2006. Except this time the Flames played the role the Ducks did in that game.

They just completely shut the Jets out; and like Bingo said, this was not all Talbot. The whole team just did not give them a sniff at anything. How frustrating that must have been for Winnipeg fans to watch.

It was also a strange game for me to watch because it was so uneventful. At no point did I ever feel like the outcome was going to be any different than it was. It just felt from wire-to-wire like the Flames were going to cruise to a win.
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For Talbot is was more the timing of his saves then him standing on his head. Each time the Jets had a chance to get that break he was there to shut them down. There were not a whole lot of those, but when the Jets managed to break through he was there.

Also Gio mentioned that that Ward tweaked their defensive structure. Kudos to Ward for seeing and implementing those tweaks. Sounds like he used the break to work out some things.
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Starting Talbot was a big move for Ward IMO. I think during the season he settled out too much into what Peters was doing by default rather than really making a choice for himself. An argument could have been made to start Rittich off the bat, but he stuck to his gut and went with Talbot and Talbot is rewarding the faith.

Happy to see Talbot get into form. Hopefully he can carry it through, and also nice knowing that we have a capable guy in waiting in case a change needs to be made.

Looking forward to the Playoffs. Go Flames Go!
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Starting Talbot was a big move for Ward IMO. I think during the season he settled out too much into what Peters was doing by default rather than really making a choice for himself. An argument could have been made to start Rittich off the bat, but he stuck to his gut and went with Talbot and Talbot is rewarding the faith.
I don't know how much you can fault Ward for this approach through the balance of the season. I don't know a thing about it, but I am guessing that coming in and taking over the coaching duties in the middle of a NHL season is incredibly difficult. My guess is that there was never any real time for him to properly evaluate and work out what was wrong with the team, and to make the necessary adjustments on the fly. It could be argued that nobody benefitted more from the break than Geoff Ward, because he is killing it right now.
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I don't know how much you can fault Ward for this approach through the balance of the season. I don't know a thing about it, but I am guessing that coming in and taking over the coaching duties in the middle of a NHL season is incredibly difficult. My guess is that there was never any real time for him to properly evaluate and work out what was wrong with the team, and to make the necessary adjustments on the fly. It could be argued that nobody benefitted more from the break than Geoff Ward, because he is killing it right now.
Yeah I’m not really really faulting him for it, especially considering the teams regular season from the previous year. Just liking what he’s doing now that he seems more comfortable with his own decisions.
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LOL, Stajan.

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Some thoughts ...

Wow did Treliving have himself a trade deadline. Getting two poor man's second pairing defenders and making them your third pairing has really solidified Calgary's defense corps. Losing Hamonic would have been a much bigger blow if those trades didn't happen.

Plus the two acquired guys have certainly played a role in a huge step forward for Calgary's special teams.

Geoff Ward is moving towards being the guy if this is any indication of what he's capable of. The team is focused, paying attention to details, and playing some of the best defensive hockey we've seen from this team ... well ... ever.

Flames are 2nd in xGA/60 to Vegas, and 2nd in HDCA/60 to Washington. That's battening down the hatches ... and a solid foundation to win in the post season.

That also means it's puzzling to hear Calgary radio guys suggest Talbot was the team's MVP. I get it that we're not used to seeing good goaltending since 34 left, and that he's done his job perfectly, but he hasn't had to stand on his head at all.

The Flames are now a very deep hockey club. They're not getting a lot of five on five love from the top line, but they have four lines that can roll, and an emerging second core that could give opponents fits.

Mangiapane, Dube, Hanifin, Andersson all adding to the main core and making them a tough team to check. And Valimaki is coming ...
I didn't listen to the radio guys, but I think Talbot as MVP has more to do with the balanced line up in front of him. There wasn't one particular guy that lit it up, so the default is often the goalie.

There was no MVP in that series, which is a good thing. The whole team played well. Very few passengers and they need to keep it going. If Talbot is considered the MVP the next round for the same reasons, it would be a great thing.
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Starting Talbot obviously worked out. But I doubt it would have been an egregious error to start Rittich with how well the team played.

I give Wardo way more credit for getting the team to play as well as they did than I do for him simply picking Talbot over Rittich. I think we would have been safe with both choices.

Of course, that ignores the fact that teams can play differently depending on who is in goal, but I think that is not the case for this edition of the Flames.
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