Arena Negotiation Discussion v2

[Husky]

Where abouts in victoria park are they thinking of putting the arena?

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Husky

Where abouts in victoria park are they thinking of putting the arena?

Where the parking lots north of the Saddledome currently are. Between 12th and 14th Avenues and 4th and 5th Streets.

[sleepingmoose]

Originally Posted by Locke

Yeah, but Calgary isnt Vegas.

We have this thing, you may have heard of it? Its called Snow.

This is the key thing - indoor escalators *may* work ok (although maintenance costs are high), but outdoor escalators in Calgary are a huge mistake. They get jammed up with snow, ice and gravel; they’d be broken down most of the time anyway, so you might as well save yourself the trouble and use stairs.

[cam_wmh]

MSG seems similar to the inverted bowl.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Scary Eloranta

They've done feasibility studies and Little Caesars Arena in Detroit uses similar concept but not as drastic. More info here:

https://www.architectmagazine.com/te...ng-hierarchy_o


https://www.crainsdetroit.com/articl...s-centuries-of

Isn't the problem with Little Caesars arena that the concourse areas are so good with big TV's all over the place that lots of people never go back to their seats making the arena look emptier than it really is?

[Manhattanboy]

I like this kind of discussion! Looks like some steps are being taken in the right direction!

[zzibradleyizz]

Originally Posted by Bunk

I really, really like this. To me that is an inviting looking building. Edmonton's arena is a cold, inward focused monolith. This looks like it belongs in the neighbourhood. I like the warmer tones with the wood. Similar sort of look to the Central Library with the wood in the underbelly at the entrance.

Funny, because both buildings are by the same Architect; DIALOG, but does have influence from a design Architect...Snohetta for example on NCL, not sure who was for Rogers Arena.

[Bunk]

Originally Posted by zzibradleyizz

Funny, because both buildings are by the same Architect; DIALOG.

Probably client driven direction on the aesthetic.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by zzibradleyizz

Funny, because both buildings are by the same Architect; DIALOG, but does have influence from a design Architect...Snohetta for example on NCL, not sure who was for Rogers Arena.

These renderings are by Rossetti.

[RM14]

Originally Posted by Husky

Where abouts in victoria park are they thinking of putting the arena?

Across the street from cowboys and the arriva tower. The area plan is coming together very nicely.

[Table 5]

The design details of the arena itself look a little forgettable at the moment (but then again it looks somewhat preliminary), but the idea of it being more human-scaled and integrated into the community is excellent. The age of the arena being a giant monolith is hopefully behind us.

I'm less sold on the inverted bowl idea.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by zzibradleyizz

Funny, because both buildings are by the same Architect; DIALOG, but does have influence from a design Architect...Snohetta for example on NCL, not sure who was for Rogers Arena.

Not really influenced design, the design IS by the design Architect. 360 Architecture designed Rogers Place in Edmonton.

[zzibradleyizz]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

These renderings are by Rossetti.

Referring to New Central Library and Rogers Arena, not these new renderings by Rossetti.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by zzibradleyizz

Referring to New Central Library and Rogers Arena, not these new renderings by Rossetti.

Bunk was referring to the wood soffit on the library and on the Calgary Event Center not Rogers.

[P-DAZZLE]

Originally Posted by Scary Eloranta

I want this...

Calgary could host the Winter Olympics and the Quidditch World Cup!

[RM14]

Retro logo at centre ice is looking good

[browna]

Disagree, that area of town could use something a little bolder. This isn’t some culturally rich, old neighbourhood that you to preserve some character and keeping it ultra low key. It’s less then a half a decade removed from being empty parking lots and abandoned light industrial buildings from the 50s or earlier, where the back alleys where the most popular places with drug users and hookers for the last 3 decades. Now it’s Vancouver style glass condos and chain but don’t call them chain coffee shops in the lower levels.

Doesn’t have to be something off the wall, but it should look like an arena and a civic centerpiece, not a wing of a modern rec center.

Also, always hoped the Honeycombs would play Calgary,and if these renderings are true, wont be long now. Just need someone to pay for it.

[Reggie Dunlop]

If the Victoria Park option is back on, it means CSEC blinked and the west-end CalgaryNext is dead? So they're not getting the Katz deal?

[getbak]

Originally Posted by RM14

Retro logo at centre ice is looking good

Notice how all the people in the renderings are wearing retro jerseys and shirts.

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

If the Victoria Park option is back on, it means CSEC blinked and the west-end CalgaryNext is dead? So they're not getting the Katz deal?

CalgaryNext has been dead for years. They've only been talking about Victoria Park for a long time.

[Lanny_McDonald]

I hope the inverted bowl concept is a go. Really a unique design for the building. Match it up with the wood/timber esthetic suggested by some, the building could become an impressive show piece. Would really be nice to see something completely different than the urinal up in Shelbyville. Come on Calgary, get er done!