Big Brother 18 - Premieres June 22

[mile]

James offering to throw the next HoH for the $5k bribe shows how out of touch he is. This guy isn't here to win the game. AFP is all he cares about and I hope he gets denied that too.

Nicorey giving Vic $5k to keep his best friend in the house? Paul and Vic should've had a Chilltown laugh in the diary room.

[lifetime_flamesfan]

Originally Posted by mile

James offering to throw the next HoH for the $5k bribe shows how out of touch he is. This guy isn't here to win the game. AFP is all he cares about and I hope he gets denied that too.

Nicorey giving Vic $5k to keep his best friend in the house? Paul and Vic should've had a Chilltown laugh in the diary room.

I don't think he'll win that either, especially after sitting around last week and letting Paul and Victor take control of the house.

[Weitz]

It's not just James though they showed the 3 of them talking and they kept convincing themselves that Paul was going to go..

In all honestly I think Nicole and Corey just ruined their game by keeping Paul in the house. I think him and Vic will sit down and figure out exactly what they need to do to get to final 3. And I don't think that includes keeping Corey and James in the house.

[Kybosh]

Yeah, I think Victor has an excellent shot at winning. Especially if he pulls off a HoH win here.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by mile

Nicorey giving Vic $5k to keep his best friend in the house? Paul and Vic should've had a Chilltown laugh in the diary room.

It wasn't really about bribing him to vote out Michelle. It was about relationship building. How much more inclined will V/P be to keep Nicole/Corey after having given Victor 5K for what everybody knew he was going to do anyways.

Originally Posted by Weitz

In all honestly I think Nicole and Corey just ruined their game by keeping Paul in the house.

Strongly disagree.

1: Michelle had heat with Nicole. Was going to gun for her... everybody knew it.
2: Obvious that M/N/J were a trio. If you're a duo then a trio is a clear threat
3: See spoiler (unless you don't want to be spoiled)

Spoiler!

Victor won HoH. Evict Paul and break your F4 and he'd have put them on the block

4: They had no agreement with Michelle, they can plausibly play the middle with N/J & P/V this week.
5: P/V have no reason to trust J/N and every reason to trust N/C. They just kept their word and gave V 5 grand.

Sure there is the chance that P/V will decide that the smart move is breaking up Nicorey. But IMO Nicole is a smart enough player to avoid that while James and Natalie... sleep alot. I mean they didn't do squat last week. Didn't even bother to confirm the vote with N/C.

Originally Posted by Kybosh

Yeah, I think Victor has an excellent shot at winning. Especially if he pulls off a HoH win here.

I dunno... the guy was voted out twice. That's a major black mark against him. If I had to bet money on who wins this game I'd bet on Nicole.

[Weitz]

I don't think the Jury votes for Nicole to be honest.

I think James goes this week, then if Paul or Victor win HOH next week Nicole or Corey goes (probably Nicole). At that point I think its a pretty sure bet that Paul/Victor wins the game.

Nicole probably only makes final 2 if Corey takes her or wins final HOH obviously.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Weitz

I don't think the Jury votes for Nicole to be honest.

Depends on the jurors really. Some juries are bitter and some aren't, some vote on game play and others on relationships. I think Nicole smokes the field on game play TBQH. So if the jury is more inclined to vote based on game play then I think she wins if they're not then I think she loses

I see her winning against James & Corey, losing against Paul, 50-50 vs. Victor (basically comes down to how purist the jury feels... a BB purist wouldn't vote for someone who got evicted twice).

Originally Posted by Weitz

Nicole probably only makes final 2 if Corey takes her or wins final HOH obviously.

I could see James taking her. I also think Paul & Victor would take her if taking the other wasn't a possibility (depending on the nature of the others eviction).

[Erick Estrada]

Paul's in good position as I don't see him losing against anyone left in the final. I could see Natalie maybe getting a little further than we expect as once James gets evicted likely this week she's the weakest player by far so someone the final two may want to keep around to the final 3/4. Weird gameplay by James in recent weeks as t's like he has given up on winning the game. He should have never gave Nichole HOH and then didn't bother to even play the game this week and now his game is almost done because of it. Maybe he's simply happy with a showmance?

[Weitz]

James never wanted to win. He played the same game last time.

[mile]

Originally Posted by Parallex

3: See spoiler (unless you don't want to be spoiled)

Spoiler!

Victor won HoH. Evict Paul and break your F4 and he'd have put them on the block

Spoiler!

Man Vic is a beast.

The more I think about it the more I think Paul and Vic are screwed. They will get one of James or Nat out this week, and I feel like Nicorey will flip and align with whichever one of them stays. Leaves a 3 on 1 scenario in the F5 HoH with all of Victor's hopes resting on Paul.

Nicole is a likely final two candidate, but I don't know if she'll win. I think this jury is full of casuals who will vote based on emotion rather than game.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by mile

Spoiler!

Man Vic is a beast.

The more I think about it the more I think Paul and Vic are screwed. They will get one of James or Nat out this week, and I feel like Nicorey will flip and align with whichever one of them stays. Leaves a 3 on 1 scenario in the F5 HoH with all of Victor's hopes resting on Paul.

Nicole is a likely final two candidate, but I don't know if she'll win. I think this jury is full of casuals who will vote based on emotion rather than game.

Spoiler!

If James or Nat win the Veto this week (if they are nominated) and one comes off I think whoever goes up in replacement will go home. Because I think in that time Paul/Vic will realize they should break up corey and Nicole not Nat and James.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by mile

Spoiler!

Man Vic is a beast.

The more I think about it the more I think Paul and Vic are screwed. They will get one of James or Nat out this week, and I feel like Nicorey will flip and align with whichever one of them stays. Leaves a 3 on 1 scenario in the F5 HoH with all of Victor's hopes resting on Paul.

Nicole is a likely final two candidate, but I don't know if she'll win. I think this jury is full of casuals who will vote based on emotion rather than game.

Spoiler!

That's how I see it as well. Except I think Nicole has a legit shot to win (but not a foregone conclusion ala Derrick). The only person that I think is a lock to win in a F2 is Paul... which is also why I think Paul has to win out to get there. I think the next time someone other then V/P wins HoH Paul goes up either as a "Pawn" (meaning they tell him he's a pawn until after veto then switch) or he's put up with Victor. Vic is his only hope to get to F2 anyway other then by his own power. I think James is drawing dead (loses to everyone in F2) everyone else is somewhere in between.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Normally I'd say floaters like Nicole, Natalie and James have no shot, but I think this is a particularly fractured jury house and I think the previous comment was right, they will vote based on emotion, not game.

I'd even have a tough time voting for Cory as he's been quite useless for much of the game.

Paul deserves to win more than any other player, but I wonder if the Paul/Paulie/Victor connection will cause Da/Bridge/Zak to not vote for them out of spite. In fact, I am pretty sure Zak/Bridge will vote for either Nicole or Natalie regardless of who they are up against. Honestly, I would have bet a #### ton of money in the first few weeks that Paul was doomed. He was on the wrong side of the house and was a loudmouth who everyone hated. He then evolved his social game and used his being a loudmouth to disrupt other people's games and really turn things around.

I think Vic is doomed because of his two evictions. They will see it more as luck than perseverance.

I really don't like the idea of any of James/Nicole/Cory winning because I think they need to really get away from this idea that floating is the way to win. Meech even talked about it, I think on the actual show, not just live feeds, that not rocking the boat is always the best strategy. While partially true, Derrick had no enemies, I much prefer seeing people that play hard and have good social game win. The day we get a house full of Victorias is the day I stop watching.

I know production likes showmances because they help ratings, but I think they ruin the game if there are too many of them. It reduces the game to a battle of pairs. If Nicole and James (or their parnters) were eliminated a few weeks ago and we still had Da/Bridge/Zak in the game, I think we'd have a much more interesting final few weeks.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Is it just me or did this season turn into a decent one lately? The gameplay from everyone is being debated on all sides and doesn't that mean the show is working? There are no classic players that I can't wait to see play again but that's okay.

It's not a standout season by any stretch but given some of the garbage we have witnessed the last few years, this one hasn't been too bad in my opinion.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

Is it just me or did this season turn into a decent one lately?

It's been better. It's still a below average season but it's at least gonna finish strong.

[mile]

This year and last year have been solid. Helps that there is no clear favorite running away with this.

I don't know if I'll time to watch or if I can even watch this in Canada but the online edition that will happen on CBS All-Access right after this season ends will be cast by a different agency apparently. Hopefully it's better. A shorter season and not being on network TV has potential.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

I read the new one starts a week after this one. I'll watch if on tv or on demand. No way I sign up for any online service.

[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by Machiavelli

It's really not worth my time. Believe what you want.

I love how intense you are about Big Brother, this is pretty great

Good stuff, I love the show. I picked Paul from the start to win, though not really in love with most aspects of his personality. Still think he'll win.

[Machiavelli]

Michelle has the emotional intelligence of a gerbil....very glad she's gone.

I see Paul or Corey winning.

That egg/wire HOH is one if the worst in BB history. I wish they'd do away with it. BBCAN had great comps the past couple of seasons, something the US version could learn from.

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by Machiavelli

Michelle has the emotional intelligence of a gerbil....very glad she's gone.

I see Paul or Corey winning.

That egg/wire HOH is one if the worst in BB history. I wish they'd do away with it. BBCAN had great comps the past couple of seasons, something the US version could learn from.

Pretty sure they hired some of the bbcan guys for this year. Thought I heard that somewhere. Most of the comps have been pretty good this year.