Who should the Flames hire as the new head coach?

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by dying4acup

This will be the signature of brad trelivings tenure in Calgary. More than likely his on and only coaching hire, as most GMs only get one shot at this.

I'm curious if he goes same, or makes a reach. And if a reach, how big of a reach?

Also, given that he is a young GM, and doesn't make a lot of money, would he offer the $$ necessary if Boudreau is his guy.

I honestly think, unless Treliving already has a guy, he's going to be safe, or hire a guy Burke recommends.

Was it Treliving who made the decision to fire Hartley? Just seems odd the way they pulled the trigger. Maybe someone on the inside felt this was the time to try and nab Bruce Boudreau but that likely won't materialize as expected. Treliving being busy in Russia just makes this look like it was not really part of the initial plan and more of a knee jerk. Reading up on Hartley's response to being fired, he said he was shocked as he and Treliving were communicating and appeared to be on the same page. I may be out on left field here but it just seems odd the Flames are going into this unprepared.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

No kidding. What ridiculous hyperbole. I want to see the hundreds of quotes of "every person in the hockey world acknowledging it".

Are you deaf and blind? Every commentator that talked about the Flames coming down the stretch said the biggest problem for the Flames was their goaltending. Their goaltending! Who was responsible for the three headed goaltending mess? Brad Treliving. Bury your head in the sand all you want, but Treliving's decisions on the goaltending situation last off season crippled this team out of the gate. That ain't hyperbole, that is fact.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

How many GMs are fired after three seasons? They're not coaches. They're brought in to implement long-term strategies. The chance Treliving is fired within a year are pretty much nil, regardless of the Flame's record next season.

The chance of a GM being fired after 3 seasons is probably greater than the chance that a GM can be declared one the best in the league after 2 seasons.

It's probably just the vocal minority on both sides of the spectrum, but both positions are jumping the gun.

[Da_Chief]

Originally Posted by New Era

Are you deaf and blind? Every commentator that talked about the Flames coming down the stretch said the biggest problem for the Flames was their goaltending. Their goaltending! Who was responsible for the three headed goaltending mess? Brad Treliving. Bury your head in the sand all you want, but Treliving's decisions on the goaltending situation last off season crippled this team out of the gate. That ain't hyperbole, that is fact.

No shiet, in hindsight everyone will say that. I'm sure they were also saying the Flames should've taken Broduer over Kidd.

Heading into the season, it was the tandem that led then to 2nd round last year. Ramo wasn't seen as a top 5 tender but he wasn't seen as a mediocre goalie either. NO ONE could've predicted and no one did predict the Flames goaltending to be as bad as it was.

Coming down the stretch, even the monkey/puppy/baby will tell you the Flames goaltending was an issue. He's already owned up to that and has vowed to fix it heading into the next season.

Now if he acquires a guy like Bishop and he fails as well, are you going to come into this thread next year and give us the "I told you so"?

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by New Era

Are you deaf and blind? Every commentator that talked about the Flames coming down the stretch said the biggest problem for the Flames was their goaltending. Their goaltending! Who was responsible for the three headed goaltending mess? Brad Treliving. Bury your head in the sand all you want, but Treliving's decisions on the goaltending situation last off season crippled this team out of the gate. That ain't hyperbole, that is fact.

They may have acknowledged it was the biggest problem but not that Treliving screwed up badly, which is what you implied.

Same group of goalies got the Flames to round 2 last year, there was no reason to believe they'd be the worst group in the league this season by a country mile. Even still BT was out kicking tires last off season trying to improve the goalie situation.

But if you think he's in the hot seat good for you. That's a laughable notion.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by New Era

Are you deaf and blind? Every commentator that talked about the Flames coming down the stretch said the biggest problem for the Flames was their goaltending. Their goaltending! Who was responsible for the three headed goaltending mess? Brad Treliving. Bury your head in the sand all you want, but Treliving's decisions on the goaltending situation last off season crippled this team out of the gate. That ain't hyperbole, that is fact.

The same goal tending that led an underdog team into the playoffs the previous year? He didn't improve it but nobody could predict their collapse at the beginning of the season. That's on the goalies, not Treliving.

Honestly you're out to lunch and still raging over the incompetent Feaster getting fired.

[868904]

Originally Posted by New Era

Are you deaf and blind? Every commentator that talked about the Flames coming down the stretch said the biggest problem for the Flames was their goaltending. Their goaltending! Who was responsible for the three headed goaltending mess? Brad Treliving. Bury your head in the sand all you want, but Treliving's decisions on the goaltending situation last off season crippled this team out of the gate. That ain't hyperbole, that is fact.

Sure that is what everyone says but this was the same 3 goalies who got the Flames into the playoffs and into the 2nd round the previous year. How is it Treliving fault that all 3 forgot how to goaltend? No one thought goaltending was an issue at the beginning of the season. None of the "experts" thought that nor should they have after last year.

When outsiders say the goaltending was a problem, they aren't necessarily saying it was Trelivings fault. They are saying the 3 goalies failed. People just love to re-assign blame.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

The same goal tending that led an underdog team into the playoffs the previous year? He didn't improve it but nobody could predict their collapse at the beginning of the season. That's on the goalies, not Treliving.

Honestly you're out to lunch and still raging over the incompetent Feaster getting fired.

No one predicted it? Bull####. There were plenty of posters just on this site who said the goaltending situation was a mess and needed to be resolved. Statistics aside it was obvious that Hiller was garbage and needed to be moved. Treliving acknowledged that he was trying to move him. So even Treliving knew it was going to be a challenge and didn't address the situation properly.

You know, unlike you I really don't care about Feaster. He's in Tampa and no longer a part of the Flames organization. He had a crappy job to do and he did it with some good and some bad results. He deserved to be fired and it's done. Move on. The rest of have.

[hockey.modern]

Adrian Dater @adater

Hold on to your hats, but if Marc Crawford doesn't get new head coach job in NHL, he'd consider asst. job, and Detroit is possibility

Word I'm hearing from Ottawa is owner Melnyk has told GM he can go high on dollar offer for coach, but it'll come off internal player budget

[Robo]

Originally Posted by hockey.modern

Adrian Dater @adater

Hold on to your hats, but if Marc Crawford doesn't get new head coach job in NHL, he'd consider asst. job, and Detroit is possibility

Word I'm hearing from Ottawa is owner Melnyk has told GM he can go high on dollar offer for coach, but it'll come off internal player budget

Man boudreau musn't care about winning if he is considering ottawa with that player budget they aren't ever going to be a decent team

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Robo

Man boudreau musn't care about winning if he is considering ottawa with that player budget they aren't ever going to be a decent team

The Ducks have an internal budget too, doesn't stop them from winning this division every year.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by New Era

No one predicted it? Bull####. There were plenty of posters just on this site who said the goaltending situation was a mess and needed to be resolved. Statistics aside it was obvious that Hiller was garbage and needed to be moved. Treliving acknowledged that he was trying to move him. So even Treliving knew it was going to be a challenge and didn't address the situation properly.

You know, unlike you I really don't care about Feaster. He's in Tampa and no longer a part of the Flames organization. He had a crappy job to do and he did it with some good and some bad results. He deserved to be fired and it's done. Move on. The rest of have.

It wasn't obvious at all. The only problem seemed to be is that we had three goalies that all sucked at the beginning of the year. Not one of them stood up to take the job which was curious and Treliving couldn't waive anyone in case that one turned out to be the best, especially Ortio who became waiver eligible. Treliving was stuck between a rock and a hard place. It happens.

It didn't help that the coach wouldn't give Ortio a chance and was vocal about not carrying three goalies, which didn't provide solid leadership either.

I'm glad you're finally over Feaster and it doesn't colour your rating of Treliving as much as it used to but it's strange you're the only one who's calling for Treliving's head.

[Da_Chief]

Originally Posted by New Era

No one predicted it? Bull####. There were plenty of posters just on this site who said the goaltending situation was a mess and needed to be resolved. Statistics aside it was obvious that Hiller was garbage and needed to be moved. Treliving acknowledged that he was trying to move him. So even Treliving knew it was going to be a challenge and didn't address the situation properly.

You know, unlike you I really don't care about Feaster. He's in Tampa and no longer a part of the Flames organization. He had a crappy job to do and he did it with some good and some bad results. He deserved to be fired and it's done. Move on. The rest of have.

So now you've gone from every commentator to people on this side predicted this. It's ok to admit you're wrong, people will respect you more for it.

Treiliving was trying to upgrade the tending last year but was not ready to pay kings ransom like some of the goalies got. Most commentators had the Flames making the playoffs WITH that goaltending.

[Strange Brew]

So apparently Darryl has an offer from the Kings but has not accepted it yet. I do think there is some chance he comes home.

[heep223]

Put me in the camp of wanting the Walrus!

[Vulcan]

Whoever our new coach is, I can see big changes in how our defence is utilized. Giordano, Brodie and Hamilton may not be racking up the points anymore and it won't mean they are having a down year. In some ways I don't know if we have the horses to play a possession game the way Treliving says, so it will be interesting.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

So apparently Darryl has an offer from the Kings but has not accepted it yet. I do think there is some chance he comes home.

I am starting to think this is a real possibility. One thing that Trelivig andByrke have expressed is getting a coach with a presence. Darryl certainly has that. Then there is the fact he has done a fantastic job in LA and was a great coach here as well. He was not the best GM but he was a great coach getting 2 banners in his last 2 years here. He also loves that black and blue heavy play our management says they want

I could see Darryl wanting to come back home and have another shot at winning a cup in Calgary

[GranteedEV]

As optimistic as I am about Sutter, realistically he probably hasn't signed yet because L.A. is lowballing him on term. THere are probably two coaches in the league deserving of a Mike Babcock contract, and Mike Babcock is not even one of them.

Darryl Sutter + Joel Quenneville.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

As optimistic as I am about Sutter, realistically he probably hasn't signed yet because L.A. is lowballing him on term. THere are probably two coaches in the league deserving of a Mike Babcock contract, and Mike Babcock is not even one of them.

Darryl Sutter + Joel Quenneville.

Why is Mike Babcock not one of them?

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by hockey.modern

Adrian Dater @adater

Hold on to your hats, but if Marc Crawford doesn't get new head coach job in NHL, he'd consider asst. job, and Detroit is possibility

Word I'm hearing from Ottawa is owner Melnyk has told GM he can go high on dollar offer for coach, but it'll come off internal player budget

lol how low can the player budget in Ottawa go?

Why would any experienced coach want to join that mess of an organization?