09-29-2014, 02:10 PM
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#361
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by BigTuna
Burke actually said he's never leaving the Ducks and everyone laughed at the Leafs.
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Um, yeah. And? Then the Ducks basically fired him.
Employee/Employer loyalty is typically a one-way street. Whats your point?
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09-29-2014, 02:21 PM
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#362
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Locke
Um, yeah. And? Then the Ducks basically fired him.
Employee/Employer loyalty is typically a one-way street. Whats your point?
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No they didn't. They badly wanted him back and he refused to sign with them.
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09-29-2014, 02:30 PM
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#363
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Originally Posted by BigTuna
No they didn't. They badly wanted him back and he refused to sign with them.
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For once BigTuna is correct. This is pretty much the situation that went down. One could argue what went on behind closed doors and why Burke wanted to leave his position, but fact remains the Ducks tried to retain him.
http://ducks.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=469505
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09-29-2014, 02:38 PM
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#364
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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No one can escape the gravity of the black hole in the center of the universe, not even Mike Babcock.
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09-29-2014, 03:54 PM
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#365
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by burn_this_city
No one can escape the gravity of the black hole in the center of the universe, not even Mike Babcock.
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I think Burke thought Toronto was a challenge he could tackle but found out the hard way that everything is scrutinized and second guessed. The media is almost fan-like with their coverage as all the roller coaster highs and lows that fans undergo are amplified by the media and much like how fans get it in for certain players no matter how irrational so does the Toronto media. I mean you had Don Cherry for crying out loud criticizing Burke for having too many Americans on the team. That sort of criticism simply doesn't happen to other organizations. If anyone can handle that it's Babcock but it's no lock that his work with the Ducks and Wings completely translates to the Leafs as there's just so much politics involved in every little decision with that organization.
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09-29-2014, 08:10 PM
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#366
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Franchise Player
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Terrible game in Detroit tonight, Wings win 3-0. My son and his buddies went. Tickets on Stub Hub for $8.91. Good thing that's all they paid.
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09-30-2014, 01:14 AM
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#367
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Toronto
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Originally Posted by bigtmac19
Terrible game in Detroit tonight, Wings win 3-0. My son and his buddies went. Tickets on Stub Hub for $8.91. Good thing that's all they paid.
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If Alfie was playing those stub hub tics could have been sold to leafs fans for ACC reg season prices 
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I think Burke thought Toronto was a challenge he could tackle but found out the hard way that everything is scrutinized and second guessed. The media is almost fan-like with their coverage as all the roller coaster highs and lows that fans undergo are amplified by the media and much like how fans get it in for certain players no matter how irrational so does the Toronto media. I mean you had Don Cherry for crying out loud criticizing Burke for having too many Americans on the team. That sort of criticism simply doesn't happen to other organizations. If anyone can handle that it's Babcock but it's no lock that his work with the Ducks and Wings completely translates to the Leafs as there's just so much politics involved in every little decision with that organization.
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Burke thought the team was closer to being a contender than it actually was. It had nothing to do with scrutiny/second guessing. The team just wasn't as competitive as he tried to sell. He also had a personality that was too inflated for the Leafs and its corporate body. The Leafs itself is the cash spewing brand. Ownership didn't need a blowhard GM trying to be the brand (and even after he was fired, Burke described himself as the 'brian burke brand'). As has been shown time and time again, the team on its own brings in the cash. MLSE doesn't want corporate celebrities. As far as Cherry goes, nothing he says adds to or detracts from the MLSE $ printing press.
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
It all comes down to how big of a challenge Babcock wants. I can easily see him going to the Leafs next year, but I agree that to do so, he will expect to be given the keys. He'll want the power to mold the team his way.
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He'll be doomed to failure...because no matter what MLSE, etc tell him, they'll never actually leave him alone to do that.
Last edited by Mike Teavee; 09-30-2014 at 01:25 AM.
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10-02-2014, 06:59 AM
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#369
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by BigTuna
Babcock is done in Detroit.
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How do you get that out of what the article said?
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10-02-2014, 07:58 AM
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#370
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Jay Random
How do you get that out of what the article said?
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Don't question him. Big Tuna only posts "facts". Ipso facto, anything he says is obviously truth.
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10-02-2014, 08:26 AM
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#371
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Teavee
MLSE doesn't want corporate celebrities. As far as Cherry goes, nothing he says adds to or detracts from the MLSE $ printing press.
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Tim Lieweke is the definition of corporate celebrity and they gave him the keys to everything.
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10-02-2014, 03:23 PM
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#372
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Jay Random
How do you get that out of what the article said?
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He's now subjecting Detroit to a media circus over "Are you staying or going". It'll be a big distraction. If he was staying, he would have accepted Holland's offer.
He is 100% done in Detroit. Book it.
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10-02-2014, 03:35 PM
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#373
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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While I agree he might not be with Detroit next year, he will not sign with Toronto.
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10-02-2014, 03:37 PM
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#374
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
While I agree he might not be with Detroit next year, he will not sign with Toronto.
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What are you talking about? Pretty much every big name goes to Toronto after their contracts are up. Babcock and Stamkos are going to be next on that list. They even got the mighty David Clarkson!
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10-02-2014, 03:43 PM
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#375
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by codynw
What are you talking about? Pretty much every big name goes to Toronto after their contracts are up. Babcock and Stamkos are going to be next on that list. They even got the mighty David Clarkson!
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Stamkos will sign in Tampa but Babcock has a great chance of ending up with the Leafs.
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10-02-2014, 03:43 PM
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#376
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codynw
What are you talking about? Pretty much every big name goes to Toronto after their contracts are up. Babcock and Stamkos are going to be next on that list. They even got the mighty David Clarkson!
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Wow, you forgot Tavares.
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10-02-2014, 03:45 PM
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#377
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigTuna
Stamkos will sign in Tampa but Babcock has a great chance of ending up with the Leafs.
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Okay, you've convinced me.
Plan the parade!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames
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10-03-2014, 03:06 AM
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#378
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigTuna
He's now subjecting Detroit to a media circus over "Are you staying or going".
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Right, because none of that had to do with the Detroit media themselves trying to manufacture a story. They never do that. Nope, Darth Babcock pulled a Sith mind trick on them and FORCED them to ask that question.
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It'll be a big distraction. If he was staying, he would have accepted Holland's offer.
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Right, because people who are negotiating contracts always accept the first offer. Nobody has ever been in a situation where negotiations stalled or got difficult, or where one side or the other chose to put the matter off.
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He is 100% done in Detroit. Book it.
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Right, because this season isn't actually going to happen. The calendar is just going to skip forward to next spring, so that nothing has a chance to change in the meantime.
Seriously — is this the best you've got?
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10-03-2014, 09:52 AM
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#379
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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10-03-2014, 10:52 AM
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#380
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
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