[GDT] NHL Draft Lottery - Flames retain the 4th overall pick. Panthers win

[saXon]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

I guess the only question is who do we take if Ekblad, Reinhart, and Bennett go 1-2-3? I am thinking Burke leans towards taking Ritchie.

Draisaitl, easily. Center >>>> winger. You don't build around wingers.

[Ashasx]

If the Sams and Ekblad are gone, I think the Flames choose Ritchie, but it should be Dal Colle or Draisaitl.

[sureLoss]

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Panthers VP Travis Viola says organization is better stocked offensively. That could make defenseman Aaron Ekblad bigger target at No. 1

[Muta]

Originally Posted by puckluck2

So essentially Bennet for a third rounder? Why would Edmonton give up Bennet if they wanted him for a third rounder?

Because if they want Draisaitl and would pick him anyways, and Calgary wants Bennett, this switch of picks just gives them an extra 3rd rounder? That's a pretty damn good incentive.

All kinds of reasons for them to do this. Edmonton gets a 3rd, Calgary gets the insurance of getting Bennett.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

I guess the only question is who do we take if Ekblad, Reinhart, and Bennett go 1-2-3? I am thinking Burke leans towards taking Ritchie.

The very clear cut consensus top 5 is Ekblad, Reinhart, Bennett, Draisaitl, Dal Colle. Burke better be drafting from that group!

Burke put Draisaitl in the group with Reinhart and Bennett the other day.

If Burke takes Ritchie,

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by nik-

Difference is in the CHL playoffs MacKinnon clearly separated himself from Jones as number one and they switched management just before the draft.

Regardless, Reinheart killed it in the playoffs as well, and he might be a very attractive option to Florida despite their Centre depth.

The point stands: Last year everyone thought the Avs were a lock to take Jones and did not. There's a significant chance Florida does the same.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by Muta

Because if they want Draisaitl and would pick him anyways, and Calgary wants Bennett, this switch of picks just gives them an extra 3rd rounder? That's a pretty damn good incentive.

All kinds of reasons for them to do this. Edmonton gets a 3rd, Calgary gets the insurance of getting Bennett.

I guess on the flip side, if Calgary knows that Edmonton wants Draisaitl enough that they would trade with them and pass on Bennett, why should we give up the 3rd? Edmonton would draft Draisaitl anyway.

For me trading up only makes sense if its 2 spots or more.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

Regardless, Reinheart killed it in the playoffs as well, and he might be a very attractive option to Florida despite their Centre depth.

The point stands: Last year everyone thought the Avs were a lock to take Jones and did not. There's a significant chance Florida does the same.

Well yes. 98% of this thread is speculation.

And everyone thought Jones was a lock until the management changed. That's a pretty significant difference.

[Vinny01]

If Burke drafts Ritchie he is trading down. No way I see him going at 4.

I think Edmonton wants size which means they do not want or need a Sam. All the talk is they want Leon so hopefully they take him

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

The point stands: Last year everyone thought the Avs were a lock to take Jones and did not. There's a significant chance Florida does the same.

I think last year it started being more and more obvious that McKinnon was the best player in the draft. This year it's definitely a lot more muddy.

If I was Florida, I'd pick the Centre too, but I think this year it's too close to call in terms of the players, so I seem them going for Defense.

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by Muta

Because if they want Draisaitl and would pick him anyways, and Calgary wants Bennett, this switch of picks just gives them an extra 3rd rounder? That's a pretty damn good incentive.

All kinds of reasons for them to do this. Edmonton gets a 3rd, Calgary gets the insurance of getting Bennett.

Yeah, but if Edmonton would agree to that trade then it means they really don't want Bennet anyways so Burke would know and not make that trade. No team is going to give up on the player they want for an extra third rounder. Doesn't make sense for both teams.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by nik-

Well yes. 98% of this thread is speculation.

And everyone thought Jones was a lock until the management changed. That's a pretty significant difference.

That should go without saying. I mentioned that Florida taking Sam first is a possibility and get two "why in the world would they do that" comments. It happened last year in a very similar situation. Just pointing out it's distinctly possible again.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

I guess the only question is who do we take if Ekblad, Reinhart, and Bennett go 1-2-3? I am thinking Burke leans towards taking Ritchie.

i agree. you keep hearing how the top3 picks have sort of pulled away from the pack (pretty sure there was an article that started with that same line).

I am going to simply assume sams/ekblad are gone by the flames pick.

in other news, i wish we were prepping for the flames playoff run starting tomorrow, rather than figuring out who's picking when....I can't wait for this rebuilding phase to be over.

[N-E-B]

If the Flames take Ritchie at 4 I will lose my mind.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by puckluck2

Yeah, but if Edmonton would agree to that trade then it means they really don't want Bennet anyways so Burke would know and not make that trade. No team is going to give up on the player they want for an extra third rounder. Doesn't make sense for both teams.

Would the Oilers make a stupid move out of spite?

[Muta]

Originally Posted by puckluck2

Yeah, but if Edmonton would agree to that trade then it means they really don't want Bennet anyways so Burke would know and not make that trade. No team is going to give up on the player they want for an extra third rounder. Doesn't make sense for both teams.

Well, I think it does. It's insurance, and Edmonton wouldn't play their cards until the draft - they have no incentive to work with Calgary otherwise; they could very well take Bennett because he'd be the BPA. This ensures we get one of the Sams.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

This is what I'm wondering... I hear they're high on Draisaitl, but it Bennett is still on the table at 3 how do they not take the guy with more jam / compete?

Because Oilers?

How do they not take a defenceman in the Yakupov year with guys like Murray, Reinhart, Trouba, Rielly when they already had Hall, RNH and Eberle?

Because Oilers.

Never underestimate their ability to correctly judge their talent, the draft talent, and how to build a contender.

I'm not sure they could pass on Reinhart for Draisaitl. But I hope they can pass on Bennett for Draisaitl.

[gonzo29]

If the rumors of Edmonton really liking Draisaitl are true, then staying at #4 was imperative. Hopefully we can get one of Bennett, Reinhart, or Ekblad.

If Vancouver had won I might've thrown up. Only didn't want Edmonton to win so they might take Draisaitl at 3 which helps the Flames. We've all seen very clearly that even first overall picks can't help that team.

[SuperMatt18]

The other thing to note is Florida wants to win now. The brought in luongo and said they will try to spend money this offseason.

IMO the man child that is Ekblad is probably the most NHL ready physically and that could also play into the choice.

IIRC the size and physical nature of Barkov was a reason they went with him last season.

[PeteMoss]

If Florida takes a forward, you could potentially swing a deal with Buffalo.