Cammy and flames talking extension

[Ashasx]

So unnecessary.

[nik-]

It doesn't make sense to me.

[Ashasx]

I was just thinking we needed to retain more LWs.

They are rare in this organization.

[dissentowner]

It makes perfect sense to me if Burke believes the market is not there this deadline. Why get squat for him when you can sign and move him at a later date for better assets? In the meantime he can mentor the young guys.

[ah123]

Originally Posted by Igster

Don't understand this. Sure hope it's just posturing so he can trade him. There really is no need for squid on this team right now or next season.

It does make sense; Flames have two big challenges: one, make the cap floor, and two, have veterans in the room who can show the "kids" what it means to be a pro (preparation, work ethic, etc) and Cammy fits that bill on both fronts. Trading Cammy and then trying to sign that "role model" UFA might be much harder to do.

[puds]

My thought is that if they end up resigning Cammi then Hudler must be on the block.

[Igster]

Originally Posted by ah123

It does make sense; Flames have two big challenges: one, make the cap floor, and two, have veterans in the room who can show the "kids" what it means to be a pro (preparation, work ethic, etc) and Cammy fits that bill on both fronts. Trading Cammy and then trying to sign that "role model" UFA might be much harder to do.

It only makes sense IMO if the offers the Flames are getting are simply not enough in the eyes of management, otherwise I don't think it makes sense. There are other vets on the team - Glencross and Stajan to name 2.

[BigFlameDog]

Well they don't know what the offer is. If Cammy takes an "offer" of 3 years at 2 million per....I would be ok with that.

[Tinordi]

Probably means Cammalleri isn't going to net near the value that many think he will in a deadline deal and it'd be better to sign him as our only top line tweener.

[ah123]

Originally Posted by Igster

It only makes sense IMO if the offers the Flames are getting are simply not enough in the eyes of management, otherwise I don't think it makes sense. There are other vets on the team - Glencross and Stajan to name 2.

True, but making the cap floor has been indicated as one of the challenges for the Flames next year. I agree with puds that if Cammy is re-signed, Hudler is probably gone before next season

[bubbsy]

ugh, hope this is this posturing to try to push teams to put more on the table if they want to get cammalleri.

not sure how interested i am in the team if the team's core stays the same next year (ie. signing stajan and cammalleri, which you'd think are part of the mix in the top 6).

[madmike]

The sad fact is the Flames do need to hit the cap floor next year. If there are no viable UFA wingers, then they don't have a ton of choice.

I'd love to give a few rookies a shot, but given the need to hit the cap floor, there likely isn't room for more than two rookies (maybe three if Ortio is the backup) in the lineup next year.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by madmike

The sad fact is the Flames do need to hit the cap floor next year. If there are no viable UFA wingers, then they don't have a ton of choice.

I'd love to give a few rookies a shot, but given the need to hit the cap floor, there likely isn't room for more than two rookies (maybe three if Ortio is the backup) in the lineup next year.

If we need to hit cap floor throw stupid money at a goalie, defenceman or center. Dont necessarily have to throw it at a winger. I'm fine giving our prospects a shot on the wing and given that we are in a relatively good spot a C that will allow rookies to play W with a bit more confidence.

This whole hitting the floor concern is the last of our worries.

[Freeway]

Context is everything, guys.

Burke said they made an offer, but haven't gotten anything done, and a trade is still a possibility.

[saillias]

Burke knows the serious offers happen at the deadline, not now.

It doesn't matter what offers we're getting for Cammalleri today.

I doubt Chiarelli had a 1st and Colborne on the table for Kaberle a week prior to the deadline back in 2011... But that was the trade that eventually happened.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

ugh, hope this is this posturing to try to push teams to put more on the table if they want to get cammalleri.

not sure how interested i am in the team if the team's core stays the same next year (ie. signing stajan and cammalleri, which you'd think are part of the mix in the top 6).

Does it matter who the core is though for the next couple of years? As others have pointed out, we do still need to hit the floor, and if Burke truely believes he may be able to get more for Cammy on contract either at the draft, or sometime in the next two years that is actually the smarter move.

Also, I know it's not popular opinion around here, but the fact is, we aren't yet ripe as an organization with forward prospects that NEED or even SHOULD be playing in the NHL right now for their development. Hopefully over the course of the next year or so that changes as we continue to add and our prospects develop, and hopefully the team adjusts to that change as it occurs.

Burke may be looking to move some of the vets that are on contract because the return is better. Key example, I wouldn't be shocked if he's taking calls about Hudler right now, and is maybe looking to move out a vet on contract, and swap the veteran presence by re-signing someone like Cammy. Not how we would have envisioned it coming into the season, but if that gives us the best futures, it's the way to go.

Very interested to see how the next week plays out............but it might end up not being a complete story until next season, we will have to be patient I think.

[madmike]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

If we need to hit cap floor throw stupid money at a goalie, defenceman or center. Dont necessarily have to throw it at a winger. I'm fine giving our prospects a shot on the wing and given that we are in a relatively good spot a C that will allow rookies to play W with a bit more confidence.

This whole hitting the floor concern is the last of our worries.

At goalie, Ramo has been fine and the Flames future is likely Gillies/Ortio. It doesn't make sense to throw money there.

There likely won't be any decent centres available in FA - and the Flames already have Backlund, Monahan and Stajan.

The Flames do have to keep some cushion for younger pending RFAs like Brodie and Backlund, who will likely make a lot more on their next deals, so I wouldn't mind if they gave Cammy a shorter term deal.

Given the season he's had this year I doubt he's going to cost all that much.

[MissTeeks]

Calgary Flames‏@NHLFlames2 mins

"Good communication. The way it has been dealt with is refreshing." - @MCammalleri13 on discussions with Brian Burke & a possible extension

Calgary Flames‏@NHLFlames1 min

"I like it here ... I've got nothing but fantastic things to say about Calgary." - @MCammalleri13 pic.twitter.com/QYtY8chFRu

[dammage79]

Every time I see those words from a player, they're immediately traded. Kind of like a polite see ya later alligators kind of thing.

[ComixZone]

I still think this is the best way to handle things. Burke is keeping his options open and maintaining a good relationship with his players. if Burke can't find good value for Cammalleri (as in, a good prospect or a 1st round pick) - then retain him. He's a good player, who can help shelter our other LW prospects for years to come.

Would it be sexy to get a 1st round pick in a trade? Yeah, I'd prefer it. But I'd sooner see Cammalleri re-signed than dealt for a less than ideal return.