08-13-2012, 11:36 AM
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#361
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Calgary
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I'm doing that tonight!
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08-13-2012, 07:19 PM
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#362
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Pierre "Monster" McGuire
Just a heads up to anyone getting NHL 13:
EB Games has a pretty decent deal on right now. 30% additional trade credit towards the pre-order of NHL 13. Today I traded in NHL 12 and the credit they gave me was $17 plus 30% more for a total of $22.
I highly suggest everyone takes advantage of this right now. Especially since the demo comes out in about a week and no one will be playing NHL 12 anyways.
DO IT!
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If your game is scratched and you didn't pay the three bucks to gaurantee it last year you don't get the 30%
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08-14-2012, 09:13 AM
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#363
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Last edited by Joborule; 08-14-2012 at 11:34 AM.
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08-14-2012, 11:59 AM
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#364
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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They have also tweaked the way overalls are calculated. It's based on position now rather than player type.
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How are the NHL 13 player ratings different from NHL 12?
EA: Last year, overall ratings reflected a player's effectiveness based on their player type (ex. Sniper, Enforcer, Grinder, etc.). NHL 13 Overall ratings are based on a player's overall skill based on their position.
Why the change?
EA: It was a fan-requested change that ensured that overall ratings were more representative of a players skill level in real life. A players who is 90+ will feel drastically different than one who is rated 65.
Examples: NHL 12 Parros was an 81 as his rating was based on his player type — enforcer, meaning that he was an above average enforcer. In NHL 13 Parros is an 69 overall based on his skill level as a forward. Chris Neil was an 82 (Grinder) last year, this year he's a 78. With this new overall ratings system, his rating didn't drop as significantly as Parros because he's still a skilled player who can check and score effectively.
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Top rated forwards, defensemen and goalies in NHL 13? (Puck Daddy)
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08-14-2012, 12:15 PM
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#365
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Powerplay Quarterback
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very cool, I am excited to get this game! (last one was NHL08 on pc, finally getting an xbox this fall
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08-14-2012, 02:21 PM
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#366
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Lethbridge
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Originally Posted by Joborule
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Miller the highest rated goalie? wtf... I guess the previous season plays nothing into these updated ratings.
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08-14-2012, 02:39 PM
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#367
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addition by subtraction
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Tulsa, OK
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Originally Posted by Joborule
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i am so glad they changed it back. i know people like to say overalls dont matter, but considering in the past the cpu would set up its lines and manage its gm mode seemingly entirely based on them, i think they are important. i think it was often demonstrated by how much tough guys would end up on the first line and/or powerplay.
not to mention, lots of people like having the overalls for quick comparisons when making moves in gm mode. personally, i compare all the catergories, but i know lots of folks want that quick snapshot so they dont have to have spreadsheets of attributes like i do!
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Originally Posted by likwid888
Miller the highest rated goalie? wtf... I guess the previous season plays nothing into these updated ratings.
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while i agree that i might not have miller as the highest rated, he has been pretty consistent the last 4 years with his numbers. http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=45065
i think rinne was a little low as well as quick. both were amazing in the playoffs and i think they are going to continue that.
regarding the ratings, i still think its stupid to have a scale that goes to 99 and then never go past 95. they spent all this time talking this summer talking about the new skating system making it easier to differentiate high end players, but yet there is such a small difference in players. in order for high end players to be different they need more than a 5 point bump in attributes. they try and smush everyone so close it defeats the purpose.
also regarding rankings, is letang really that good? while i do watch a decent amount of eastern conference hockey, i rarely watch the penguins. i never recall letang being that great when the pens played the wings in the finals those 2 years.
i also would have liked to see ovechkin a bit lower. i have no problem with his rating per say, just the fact that only 2 people are better. he has been under 40 goals 2 years in a row and only had 65 points last year. he was also a minus player for the first time in years. i would have definitely put malkin and stamkos ahead of him and probably giroux as well especially since he is the cover guy.
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08-14-2012, 07:47 PM
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#368
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Abbotsford, BC
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I can see some problems arising with this new overall system.
For example, say they label Glencross as a grinder again this year. Wouldn't he be a higher rated power forward than a grinder? Because I view Glencross as a power forward.
I don't know, I just hope this overall system doesn't ruin things. Then again, they had Backlund rated at 81 and I'm not sure he should be rated that high. Nothing against Backlund, but he's not THAT good.
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08-14-2012, 08:35 PM
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#369
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addition by subtraction
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Tulsa, OK
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Originally Posted by Pierre "Monster" McGuire
I can see some problems arising with this new overall system.
For example, say they label Glencross as a grinder again this year. Wouldn't he be a higher rated power forward than a grinder? Because I view Glencross as a power forward.
I don't know, I just hope this overall system doesn't ruin things. Then again, they had Backlund rated at 81 and I'm not sure he should be rated that high. Nothing against Backlund, but he's not THAT good.
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its a two way street unfortunately. the good news is that his player style will have no bearing on his overall. glencross will simply be rated as a winger. whether he is listed as a power forward or grinder or anything else, his overall rating is based on his ratings points. its good in the sense that you know where players stand in relation to each other.
this year, snipers often have high overalls even though their overall point totals arent as good as most other player types. thats why when i am looking at making deals, i total up the attribute ratings in each section and overall to help me decide. what i usually found is that a sniper thats rated 85 will have drastically less ratings points than a TWF that is listed as an 85 overall. so to me, it helps simplify things because you can most safely assume that if you are trading an 85 for an 83 that you are getting an upgraded player.
to me the downside is that it will cause some role players to get overlooked. bringing back the sniper example or even a tough guy, they can have a niche but may not get signed because their overall is lower. in the parros example, a lot of people might look right past him because he is only 69 and most of the time rosters have 80's and above for the nhl.
for me, the benefits do outweigh the downsides. not to mention, they had pretty much always done it that way until a year or two ago.
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08-15-2012, 09:54 AM
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#370
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Dances with Wolves
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Section 304
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I agree with Dobbles. I never fully understood how goon players ended up on the top lines... makes sense.
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08-15-2012, 10:02 AM
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#371
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Lifetime Suspension
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It would be nice if you could make line by line strategies and create line matchups strategies and situation line ups.
all things that shouldn't be that hard to program.
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08-15-2012, 10:45 AM
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#372
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by dobbles
also regarding rankings, is letang really that good? while i do watch a decent amount of eastern conference hockey, i rarely watch the penguins. i never recall letang being that great when the pens played the wings in the finals those 2 years.
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Probably the best offensive defenseman in the league not named Henrik? Yeah, he's that good.
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08-15-2012, 01:49 PM
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#373
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by AR_Six
Probably the best offensive defenseman in the league not named Henrik? Yeah, he's that good.
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Do you mean Erik? As in Erik Karlsson?
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08-15-2012, 02:40 PM
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#374
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Abbotsford, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reanimate
It would be nice if you could make line by line strategies and create line matchups strategies and situation line ups.
all things that shouldn't be that hard to program.
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I agree. The best defensive players on the Flames against the best offensive players on other teams. That'd be nice.
Sort of like in Madden where you can match up your best LB to their RB or your best CB against their best WR.
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08-15-2012, 05:33 PM
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#375
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Reanimate
Do you mean Erik? As in Erik Karlsson?
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Brain fart. All swedes are named Henrik.
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08-16-2012, 03:11 PM
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#376
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Franchise Player
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man i have was getting SO excited for this game after the last few vids released. Then i came across this today.
http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/o...kthrough--cam-
I think no matter what, until they unglue the puck from the stick , this generation of game is going to suffer the same issues no matter what changes they make.
The hitting looked pretty bad, the fact taht you can shoot without any penalty in power/accuracy despite a person's stick being in the shooter's wheelhouse or range of motion during the shot is yet again a problem.
The way i see it, is all these improvements to skating and all, just further diminishes the need to pass the puck or to simply get the puck deep to avoid costly turnovers.
Colour me disappointed
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08-16-2012, 03:33 PM
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#377
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addition by subtraction
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Tulsa, OK
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i agree totally bubsy.
to me the first goal scored in the demo is exactly whats wrong with the game. the penguins guy makes the good play and hit the flyers guy. he then bounces right back as if nothing ever happened and wrists a super weak shot past the goalie. the game once again rewards poor play by the forward with a goal. its the same reason that year after year online you see guys deke and dangle through an entire team and then score.
additionally, the gameplay looks exactly the same to me. it did not seem as if the new ai improvements really changed anything. it was the exact same super fast arcade game with nothing but tape to tape passes and nothing but bone crushing highlight reel checks.
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08-16-2012, 03:54 PM
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#378
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Franchise Player
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I wish they'd spend less money and time on visuals and graphics and more on gameplay and game modes.
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08-16-2012, 03:55 PM
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#379
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Franchise Player
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ya i was thinking the exact same thing "he gameplay looks exactly the same to me".
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08-16-2012, 04:42 PM
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#380
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Looks like nothing much has changed. All 3 Philly goals were BS. The hitting is the worst part of the game. Every hit is a huge train wreck and usually the guy hitting is down for 2 seconds while the guy getting hit is up instantly and has control of the puck.
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