The ongoing X and Elon Musk Transgressions Thread

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Up until now, Twitter mostly still worked so it was hard for another entrant to take over. With it useless I think there is a lot of demand for something else, and I'd hope corporations are thinking long and hard about what they do. Another closed network, or something like Mastodon or Bluesky where you aren't at the whims of a super billionaire who just gives you a new headache every 3 months.

And how many times has Zuckerburg been called before congress? How many privacy issues does that company have?

I dunno, just because something is easy doesn't mean it is good.

Its not good. But those other companies couldn't get their act together fast enough so Meta is going to come steal their thunder. Mastodon had shot but it was confusing. Bluesky had a shot - but they were too slow to open it up to everyone. This Theads will likely be simple and open to everyone - so its got the best shot of stealing users.

If you are going to steal users - you have to either be simple/open to everyone or if you can't be open to everyone - try to steal a particular vertical of user - i.e. sports twitter or reality show twitter or whatever. So you can build up anticipation with other groups when it opens up. If you just open it up to some assortment of users - you are basically just 20% of twitter.

[Fuzz]

Most meta stuff is closed off now, so no promise Threads will be open. Meta can do it because they have the infrastructure already. It's a lot easier/more affordable to roll out another feature integrated with your user accounts and other systems than to build it up from scratch, particularly when Meta is walled, and Bluesky won't be(well, the protocol, anyway). So unfortunately these things take time, and I really hope everyone doesn't flood to Meta.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Most meta stuff is closed off now, so no promise Threads will be open. Meta can do it because they have the infrastructure already. It's a lot easier/more affordable to roll out another feature integrated with your user accounts and other systems than to build it up from scratch, particularly when Meta is walled, and Bluesky won't be(well, the protocol, anyway). So unfortunately these things take time, and I really hope everyone doesn't flood to Meta.

Facebook is slowely dying so smart move by Meta, that said I have come to the conclusion that all social media has around a 10 year life span so that Meta replaces Musk doesnt really worry me that much

[wireframe]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

Facebook is slowely dying so smart move by Meta, that said I have come to the conclusion that all social media has around a 10 year life span so that Meta replaces Musk doesnt really worry me that much

Facebook is more popular than ever in terms of daily-active and monthly-active users worldwide. 2023 has been a year of incredible growth for Facebook, even among the younger demographics.


Remember that Twitter is an order of magnitude smaller than any of the Meta apps. To me, Meta Threads is more like an add-on to Facebook or Instagram than a standalone social media platform. Plus, Meta being able to leverage their excellent ads delivery platform in Threads instantly makes it profitable if they get a decent amount of users. Ads delivery and serving data at scale are the only hard parts about building a Twitter clone and Meta has both in the bag. I wouldn't bet against Meta on this one.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by wireframe

Facebook is more popular than ever in terms of daily-active and monthly-active users worldwide. 2023 has been a year of incredible growth for Facebook, even among the younger demographics.


Remember that Twitter is an order of magnitude smaller than any of the Meta apps. To me, Meta Threads is more like an add-on to Facebook or Instagram than a standalone social media platform. Plus, Meta being able to leverage their excellent ads delivery platform in Threads instantly makes it profitable if they get a decent amount of users. Ads delivery and serving data at scale are the only hard parts about building a Twitter clone and Meta has both in the bag. I wouldn't bet against Meta on this one.

maybe outside N America then, none of my kids or ex kids have accounts anymore, even the guys that used to use it, to the extent that I might drop my own account as I only use it to keep in touch with my ex foster kids, the platform is pretty much an online Pennysaver for the over 40's these days

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by wireframe

Facebook is more popular than ever in terms of daily-active and monthly-active users worldwide. 2023 has been a year of incredible growth for Facebook, even among the younger demographics.


Remember that Twitter is an order of magnitude smaller than any of the Meta apps. To me, Meta Threads is more like an add-on to Facebook or Instagram than a standalone social media platform. Plus, Meta being able to leverage their excellent ads delivery platform in Threads instantly makes it profitable if they get a decent amount of users. Ads delivery and serving data at scale are the only hard parts about building a Twitter clone and Meta has both in the bag. I wouldn't bet against Meta on this one.

Yeah.. Facebook's growth is basically 0 in North America and Europe.

They earn $48.85 per user in US & Canada, $15.51 per user in Europe and then less than $5 per user in Asia/Pacific and ROW. So all their growth is in regions where they collect minimal revenue.

[chemgear]

Oops.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1676599531205525505

[photon]

All the evil scrapers have reformed their ways and are volunteering at animal shelters now, awesome!

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

maybe outside N America then, none of my kids or ex kids have accounts anymore, even the guys that used to use it, to the extent that I might drop my own account as I only use it to keep in touch with my ex foster kids, the platform is pretty much an online Pennysaver for the over 40's these days

I use it very minimally for connecting with people I know anymore. But it is quite useful for connecting with groups for slightly obscure hobbies and such like craft beer trading, junior golf, local golf, user groups for weird tech like live fishing sonar and golf simulators, other fishing stuff, local restaurants etc. All those are more active than on any other platforms I've found.

[marsplasticeraser]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

maybe outside N America then, none of my kids or ex kids have accounts anymore, even the guys that used to use it, to the extent that I might drop my own account as I only use it to keep in touch with my ex foster kids, the platform is pretty much an online Pennysaver for the over 40's these days

i find FB very useful for community news and a couple of my hobbies. FB is also good for selling stuff and road conditions going to the mountains. But I may spend 10 minutes a week on it outside of a few use cases.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by marsplasticeraser

i find FB very useful for community news and a couple of my hobbies. FB is also good for selling stuff and road conditions going to the mountains. But I may spend 10 minutes a week on it outside of a few use cases.

Depends on the community news. Most community groups just descend into people complaining about everything and make each neighbourhood seem like its descended into chaos. I have to talk my mom down about all the crime in her neighbourhood because of damn facebook groups because 3 cars get broken into 3 blocks away.

[Sainters7]

Yeah, the only thing I use Facebook for is as a birthday reminder regarding people I know. At least it's handy for that. I was on there the other day thanking people for the birthday wishes, and I noticed my last 4 posts were that exact same message from the previous 3 years lol.

I just see it as a site my parents' generation use to keep in touch with each other, or people with little kids use to show em off to said parents' generation. The default G rated family site.

[activeStick]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1676764705816182785

[Fuzz]

https://status.twitterstat.us/pages/...09c22c3b0002fa



LOL.

[nfotiu]

Threads has seen a pretty massive flock from Tweeters I care about in the two hours since they went live. I don't see twitter lasting past August as a platform anyone cares about.

[Yamer]

To be honest, I'm a little sad Twitter may become irrelevant. When it was run properly it was the one-stop breaking news source, the place to stay up-to-date on Trade Deadline and Free Agency, the center to see when and where my favorite comedians and bands were touring (ticket pre-sale codes and whatnot), and a nice disconnect with some funny or wholesome accounts (Super 70s Sports, Thoughts of a Dog, The Tweets of God, etc).

If Facebook becomes the platform to replace Twitter I am fully out. That's just a space for grandparents and bigots, something Musk tried desperately to transform Twitter into.

I haven't used Facebook since April 2020, and it has been blissful. Nobody remembers my birthday, but if they needed Facebook for that then they never really gave a #### in the first place.

[ResAlien]

Threads is not going to be it. A single feed that’s the worst of the For You tab combined with the inability to sort chronologically. DOA app without major changes. What’s next?

[Ozy_Flame]

I tried Threads tonight, and here's my two thoughts.

- it's nowhere near as usable as Spoutible or Bluesky. It needs more structure and vast improvement to the GUI.
- Threads, the movie about nuclear dystopia, is more enjoyable.

[JohnnyB]

My initial impression of Threads was that I prefer the UI and it has some nice design touches, but most people I want to follow aren't on it yet and my homepage is just a stream of garbage from so many people I don't follow and don't have interest in.

Instagram culture is very different from Twitter, which is fine if what you want is people promoting their personal lifestyle brands, thirst traps, and art. It's not good if you're interested in news, academics, institutional topics etc. Threads seems full of people coming from Instagram and much less from Twitter, so the content all feels more like Instagram culture and it keeps pushing that at me, but that kind of content is also the reason I never use Instagram. It's very annoying.

Also, it's so inconvenient to manage more than one account.

[Reggie Dunlop]

https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2023/0...about-threads/

Threads explained by Mastodon founder