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Old 12-27-2023, 12:11 PM   #3721
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it is amazing that the GM has had a job through this, he clearly made some horrible franchise altering moves. thinking diva Wilson was the answer is comical.
Paton was handpicked by the new owners, so...

Pete Carroll and John Schneider again coming out looking good for letting player go a year earlier than anticipated. Sherman, Earl Thomas and now Wilson.

That said, Wilson really hasn't changed since the last couple years of when he was a Seahawk, the Seahawks just managed/coddled him and his unique, non-enderaring personality, better, while trying to keep him on track and under their control on the field.

He thinks he's smarter than most in footbal, playing QB at least...just ask him. That ego has been there for a while, it's just in the later years he's been more demanding about it...Seahawks gave him some rope for one season to run the offense the way he wants, and he started hot but then, he failed to adapt when teams did, so he lost control of the offense back to the OC, but got upset and forced the firing (to the owner - it's him or Schottenheimer) of the OC four years ago, and even though he won, it really was the last straw for him in Seattle the way he handled that.

He carried that chip on the shoulder as well as his inflated ego to Denver, where he thought he could finally just make all the calls and run the offense the exact way he liked. New owners, backing him, so a first time head coach wasn't going to stop him, and was an utter failure and cost a coach his head coaching job.

Payton then comes in, forces him to ditch the entorauge he assembled and do things his way, and it just seems that while Payton forced him into doing some things that Seattle forced him to do, he wasn't really still on board or in agreement, just as he wasn't the last two years in Seattle. Difference beng that Payton yelled at him on sidelines where Seahawks did it more privately.

He's a good QB still with talent and can still run and very smart. But he's got such a high opinion toward himself about how smart he is and how NFL offenses should be run and how he should be in charge of that offense, and him holding that grudge against any one who wants to do or tell him to do different, that has been his downfall out of Seattle and never having gotten hold in Denver.

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Old 12-28-2023, 01:55 PM   #3722
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Mike McDaniel is the real MVP hahaha.

F your records Dan, we're coming for your records, Dan.


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Old 12-28-2023, 06:17 PM   #3723
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Went down a random rabbit hole of NFL salaries this evening. And noticed the highest paid Kicker, Justin Tucker, is paid almost 6 million bucks a year. So the same salary as some of the best starting goalies in the NHL. We all know that NHL salaries have lagged far behind major sports in NA. But it really puts things in perspective when kickers in the NFL are making as much as premier positions in the NHL.
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Old 12-28-2023, 06:17 PM   #3724
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Time to watch the GOAT.
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Old 12-28-2023, 06:29 PM   #3725
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Went down a random rabbit hole of NFL salaries this evening. And noticed the highest paid Kicker, Justin Tucker, is paid almost 6 million bucks a year. So the same salary as some of the best starting goalies in the NHL. We all know that NHL salaries have lagged far behind major sports in NA. But it really puts things in perspective when kickers in the NFL are making as much as premier positions in the NHL.
You understand the amount of money the NFL brings in right? It's not even close.
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Old 12-28-2023, 06:34 PM   #3726
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I guess it's time to take Cleveland seriously. Not because they are beating the Jets mind you.
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Old 12-28-2023, 06:40 PM   #3727
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Easily the best game I’ve seen in quite some time. These HOF tier QBs are cooking and these offenses are clicking
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Old 12-28-2023, 06:41 PM   #3728
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Cooper set a Browns records for yards last week - Njoku might beat it tonight.
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Old 12-28-2023, 06:46 PM   #3729
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Take the 3 points Kevin!
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Not T-Sizzle’s best throw but he’ll be right back chucking darts before you know it
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Old 12-28-2023, 07:05 PM   #3731
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Dr. Zaius: To suggest that we can learn anything about the Siemian nature from a study of man is sheer nonsense.
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Old 12-28-2023, 07:30 PM   #3732
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Herbstreit isn’t bright
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Old 12-28-2023, 07:39 PM   #3733
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296 yards passing in the first half for Joe.
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Old 12-28-2023, 07:50 PM   #3734
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Diamond Joe looking smooth.
Siemien physically looks older then Peyton Manning.

The TSN infomercial for sports.gaming is all cringe. The host who just reads a script and Davis Sanchez is all over the map and sounds foolish.
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Old 12-28-2023, 08:07 PM   #3735
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I’d be happy if Amazon turned off the microphone near the fans banging on things
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lol Jets
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Old 12-28-2023, 08:10 PM   #3737
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Joe Flacco looks older than his Dad. Looks like he's up past his bed time here too. Watch him heave a 60 yard bomb here.
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Joe Flacco looks older than his Dad. Looks like he's up past his bed time here too. Watch him heave a 60 yard bomb here.
Browns running out of receivers.
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Cleveland Rocks.
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Run the ball Kevin. Incomplete passes just helping the Jets.
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