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[Rubber Ducky]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

The characters should want to know more. They should hope for humanity not just prison survival.

For as much time as they have spent at the prison I feel like we don't really know the setting aside from one small cell block and the yard, nor do we know hat is around the prison (in therms of towns, possible settlements, etc).

You would think by now there would be other towns like Eoodbury that have risen and an economy/trade would have started. It's been how long? The outbreak didn't just start yesterday.

I'm pretty surprised that nobody has really talked about the shadowy voice that Darryl, Ben, Michonne and Tyrese heard on the car radio. I'm sure that'll come up in Season 4 - second half.

[Rubber Ducky]

For the teaser for Sunday's first half finale, didn't it say that people will fall?

Who's in the Walking Dead dead pool? Will the Governor die? Michonne? A more shocking death like Glen or Maggie? Herschel?

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by Rubber Ducky

For the teaser for Sunday's first half finale, didn't it say that people will fall?

Who's in the Walking Dead dead pool? Will the Governor die? Michonne? A more shocking death like Glen or Maggie? Herschel?

The black guy has lasted longer than any before him. He's got to go.

[Daradon]

I would agree that one of Glenn or Maggie will probably die. Leaning towards Maggie as Glenn is pretty much this series' Tyrion.

Hershel would be a good bet too. I guess if they want to encourage storyline they kill Glenn or Maggie, cause obviously the partner will react. If they want a big death but don't want to affect the storyline too much it'll be Hershel as he's old anyway.

I agree with MQS and it's one of the things that bugs me. Both as an observer of the characters, and as a fan of the show. As an observer of the characters it's true, you'd think they'd be curious, that a few would have bigger plans, would be thinking forward. And as a fan of the show, I'd like to know too. As I said, it's become too much like watching a fishbowl. Or an ant farm.

[burn_baby_burn]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

You would think by now there would be other towns like Eoodbury that have risen and an economy/trade would have started. It's been how long? The outbreak didn't just start yesterday.

I don't think much of an economy would be started. It seems a lot like the North American west before it was settled by Europeans (excluding the walkers). Warring tribes surviving by hunting and gathering. Society is going to get more and more primitive over time. Transportation will become more difficult as car batteries will only last so long, and with no way to manufacture new ones they will be back to relying on horses.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by burn_baby_burn

I don't think much of an economy would be started. It seems a lot like the North American west before it was settled by Europeans (excluding the walkers). Warring tribes surviving by hunting and gathering. Society is going to get more and more primitive over time. Transportation will become more difficult as car batteries will only last so long, and with no way to manufacture new ones they will be back to relying on horses.

Well, the cars should have been rendered all but useless by now, so who knows how long it'll last in TV land.

Most car batteries wouldn't have lasted a year+ unused, and gasoline gels and clogs up the tank or engine and hoses within a year too.

A car that gets some use might be fine, but those would be harder and harder to find as time goes on. More importantly, usable gasoline would be near impossible to find at this point. Which is kinda funny, considering the few times they use a vehicle, they generally have to travel pretty far, so they'd be using a lot of gas, even if they only use the car say once a week.

It wouldn't be impossible to have a working car at this point, but it'd be getting damn near close.

There could be economies based on trade, if there were two groups large enough to conduct it, but I dunno about currency. From what we've seen of the world, it's hard to imagine groups large enough. But it could be there are pockets undisturbed and even thriving.

[Igster]

Originally Posted by Daradon

Well, the cars should have been rendered all but useless by now, so who knows how long it'll last in TV land.

How long is Hyundai's contract?

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by Igster

How long is Hyundai's contract?

Does Hyundai make electric cars? Cause there could be some nifty ways to keep those running. You could run simple generators all sorts of ways.

Maybe they should go that way in advertising. Hyundai Electric - Keeping you moving during a zombie apocalypse!

[burn_baby_burn]

Originally Posted by Daradon

Does Hyundai make electric cars? Cause there could be some nifty ways to keep those running. You could run simple generators all sorts of ways.

Maybe they should go that way in advertising. Hyundai Electric - Keeping you moving during a zombie apocalypse!

Again, the batteries only last so long.

[burn_baby_burn]

Originally Posted by Daradon

There could be economies based on trade, if there were two groups large enough to conduct it, but I dunno about currency. From what we've seen of the world, it's hard to imagine groups large enough. But it could be there are pockets undisturbed and even thriving.

The thriving pockets would undoubtably have a very stable form of agriculture. Without that, they would have to be nomads foraging for food to stay alive.

[Daradon]

Well yeah, but if you're using it, the battery should last quite a few years. Eventually all cars are going to wear out. Heck, maybe you are grounded because of the tires, or other maintenance problems.

I guess what I'm saying is the biggest problem you'd have is with the gasoline. (EDIT: Finding it, storing it, making sure it doesn't gel) No way around that one. Eliminating the need for that, would conceivably buy you some time.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by burn_baby_burn

The thriving pockets would undoubtably have a very stable form of agriculture. Without that, they would have to be nomads foraging for food to stay alive.

Yeah that's going to be the first thing they get right, and would be the most important thing to trade.

[habernac]

Originally Posted by Daradon

Does Hyundai make electric cars? Cause there could be some nifty ways to keep those running. You could run simple generators all sorts of ways.

Maybe they should go that way in advertising. Hyundai Electric - Keeping you moving during a zombie apocalypse!

Bicycles

[speede5]

Originally Posted by Daradon

I guess what I'm saying is the biggest problem you'd have is with the gasoline. (EDIT: Finding it, storing it, making sure it doesn't gel) No way around that one. Eliminating the need for that, would conceivably buy you some time.

Gas can get skunky but it can be usable for a long time. Not ideal if you want to get your vehicle to run top notch and last 10 years, but skunky gas will still burn. I've pulled some pretty nasty stuff out of scrap cars and burnt it in beaters. haha.

Personally I'd be driving a diesel in their world, but hyundai doesn't have a diesel tucson so I guess that's that.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Daradon

Does Hyundai make electric cars? Cause there could be some nifty ways to keep those running. You could run simple generators all sorts of ways.

Maybe they should go that way in advertising. Hyundai Electric - Keeping you moving during a zombie apocalypse!

Yeah, you'd think they would have gone out on a mission to scout for some solar panels and some electric cars.

Or they could figure out a way to make biodiesel from decomposing walkers.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by speede5

Gas can get skunky but it can be usable for a long time. Not ideal if you want to get your vehicle to run top notch and last 10 years, but skunky gas will still burn. I've pulled some pretty nasty stuff out of scrap cars and burnt it in beaters. haha.

Personally I'd be driving a diesel in their world, but hyundai doesn't have a diesel tucson so I guess that's that.

Well from experience I had my vehicle in storage for 15 months and I could not start it after that. I was told the gas had pretty much gummed up the works (or maybe it was just stuck in the tank?), and that was actually somewhat common if you leave it for a long time without going to start it every once in a while. It was a cheap enough fix, but probably nothing Rick's group would be able to do, haha.

I'm sure different situations are different, and a little knowledge, like yours would go a long way, but yeah, I'm thinking finding gas would get very difficult, very quick.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Daradon

I would agree that one of Glenn or Maggie will probably die. Leaning towards Maggie as Glenn is pretty much this series' Tyrion.

Hershel would be a good bet too. I guess if they want to encourage storyline they kill Glenn or Maggie, cause obviously the partner will react. If they want a big death but don't want to affect the storyline too much it'll be Hershel as he's old anyway.

I agree with MQS and it's one of the things that bugs me. Both as an observer of the characters, and as a fan of the show. As an observer of the characters it's true, you'd think they'd be curious, that a few would have bigger plans, would be thinking forward. And as a fan of the show, I'd like to know too. As I said, it's become too much like watching a fishbowl. Or an ant farm.

If one of Maggie or Glenn has to go it has to be Glenn. I can barely stomach the pouty little baby he has become as of late and the thought of him eternally moping over Maggie would be too hard to take.

[Daradon]

^^^ I don't disagree, but we've already seen him turn a bit darker, the writers might think this will be a good way to continue that exploration of his character.

[burn_baby_burn]

Originally Posted by Daradon

Yeah that's going to be the first thing they get right, and would be the most important thing to trade.

One could assume that rural area's in very low populated states or provinces would have a better chance of survival. A lot less walkers to contend with. Rural communities would know most of the people in their area and be able to tell who was alive and who wasn't. Be handy in knowing where to watch for walkers. Plenty of live stock and seed not to mention the equipment to continue to produce food. Smaller population means less instances of packs looking to steal or kill you for your supplies.

[speede5]

Originally Posted by Daradon

Well from experience I had my vehicle in storage for 15 months and I could not start it after that. I was told the gas had pretty much gummed up the works (or maybe it was just stuck in the tank?), and that was actually somewhat common if you leave it for a long time without going to start it every once in a while. It was a cheap enough fix, but probably nothing Rick's group would be able to do, haha.

I'm sure different situations are different, and a little knowledge, like yours would go a long way, but yeah, I'm thinking finding gas would get very difficult, very quick.

The brand and type of gas your using can have a lot to do with it. Shell gas has real good staying power, I put gold in all my seasonal equipment and never have problems. Anything with ethanol in it does go bed really fast, and I have gunned up a small carburator with that so I shouldn't speak so fast. Modern engines are pretty sensetive too, so you might get away with soething then cough, dead.

I'd still be chasing diesel just to be safe.