2018/2019 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I'm not making any conclusions based on five games though that he's better or worse. He should be better by default playing on the side he's more comfortable and with a superior partner but the gaffes are what set him apart from other Flames defenseman last year because he had many and they were often disastrous. We all know the best defensemen get beat but it's the inexcusable mistakes that are killer. Brodie to me is like Smith in that he's got to prove over the long term that he can be better than last season.

Well you were suggesting to put on the breaks for 4 good games based on one period in the 5th game which is a much smaller sample size.

5 games means nothing, but it's all he has a sample size just 5 games into a season.

So far he's been much improved.

And I wouldn't call a crazy bouncing puck inexcusable. He lost his man on the first goal for sure, but they were all in scramble when Monahan coughed it up.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I'm not making any conclusions based on five games though that he's better or worse. He should be better by default playing on the side he's more comfortable and with a superior partner but the gaffes are what set him apart from other Flames defenseman last year because he had many and they were often disastrous. We all know the best defensemen get beat but it's the inexcusable mistakes that are killer. Brodie to me is like Smith in that he's got to prove over the long term that he can be better than last season.

Since he's finally playing the side he's more comfortable, it doesn't really matter what he did last year on a side he was uncomfortable and a partner with which he had no chemistry. The angles you see on the ice are not the same. Even Alex Ovechkin had a brutal season when he was forced to play RW, and that's Alex freakin' Ovechkin.

Further to that, Brodie was in roles (3v3, lone Dman on PP1) in which his mistakes were often more pronounced than they would have been for other defensemen.

And while he no doubt had inexcusable mistakes last year, there was a lot of hyperbole in perceptions about him - he was actually pretty good for a good chunk of the season and his injury did not make the team remotely more competitive.

But beyond that - if you're going to compare him to past results in a larger sample size - then compare him to himself in the same role (top pairing, right side).

2015-16 (ES, from Corsica):
Flames: -14 in 4073.25
Brodie: +7 in 1392.3
Flames W/o Brodie: -21 in 2680.95

Oh, and for added measure (2015-16 5v5 only, from NaturalStatTrick):
Giordano - Brodie: -2 in 890:09
Brodie: +6 in 446:01
Giordano W/O Brodie: -5 in 593:19

For a guy who, I will fully agree, benefited from playing with Giordano, it's not as if Giordano didn't benefit from playing with Brodie back when they were a pair, and we're seeing it again this year.

Plus you will almost NEVER get a bad penalty from Brodie, which can't quite be said about Stone, Hamonic, Valimaki, and last year, Hamilton. Even Giordano takes the occasional head-scratcher.


Brodie is going to have some pizzas at some point this year. He's going to miss some coverages. These are normal things. It does not mean he is stuck in last year's rut, which is overstated anyways.

One thing that I think IS an issue, which is consistent with last year, is that I don't think Smith's puck handling does Brodie any favours.

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Sure is nice having 7 NHL quality Dmen, three of which who are 21 or younger, six of which who are 28 or under and also Kylington who is nearly ready and just 21 years old himself.

Hopefully as the younger D develop into bigger roles, Tre can deal the older ones for futures of some sort during the off season, rather than have them walk as UFAs.

Take a page out of the Ducks playbook.

Ideally for a solution in net!

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by SeanCharles

Ideally for a solution in net!

Brodie for Price straight up. Do it.

[sureLoss]

Dreger says he is hearing the Bruins are looking for a center:

https://www.nicholsonhockey.com/arch...-for-centerman

“It is relatively quiet around the league. I’m hearing rumblings around the Boston Bruins,” noted Dreger. “But nothing that’s hot or front-burner, as Cliff Fletcher used to say. It’s more that the Boston Bruins, they have an abundance of good, young forwards. For the Bruins to be as good as they were last year, or even better and contending, then they feel like maybe they’ve got to add another piece.

“I’m hearing that they could be in the market for a centerman. Is that a third-line center. Right now they’ve got David Backes, who’s doing a nice job in that spot. Is it a better player that that. Who are the assets that they’re going to be willing to part with.

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Brodie for Price straight up. Do it.

No cap space for this move, and the Habs will not want to retain salary, as they will want to finish their rebuild before his contract is over.

8 years of 10.5M would put the Flames in cap hell forever.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by keenan87

Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm = 17.975 MM
Tkachuk-Jankowski-Czarnik = 9.9 MM
Bennett-Backlund-Neal = 14.1 MM
Dube-Ryan-Mangiapane = 4.75 MM
2 Extras = 1.6 MM

I still can't believe what we're paying our top line, long term. For that level of talent in today's dollars you could easily be in the $25mil range.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by SeanCharles

Ideally for a solution in net!

I wonder if Tre will be able to woo one of the two Russian goalies to Calgary...

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I wonder if Tre will be able to woo one of the two Russian goalies to Calgary...

That would be ideal.

I am starting to wonder more about the possibility that he will go after Cam Talbot. Especially given Edmonton's track record with goalies one has to think that he is probably a lot better than he has played over the last calendar year, and Treliving was after him the same summer that he was traded to Edmonton. There may be a good opportunity there after the season to pick up a starting goalie with big potential to improve for cheap.

[sureLoss]

Insider Trading:

https://www.tsn.ca/video/insider-tra...-trade~1515636

The impasse between Ritchie and the Ducks looks like it is beginning to thaw
Not done. Real possibility that it might be done this week assuming no further hiccups
Expected to be a 3 year deal

Cap could force Nylander or Kapanen trade.
If Kapanen gets 50 points he could get a $5 mil plus per deal

It is important for Nylander to sign a contract that he can live with not only in Toronto but on another team.
Kapenen's emergence has strengthened Nylander's belief he might just be trade bait

Dubas does not want to trade Nylander, but as they get closer to the Dec 1 deadline, Leafs need to make a decision
Teams keeping track of Nylander.
Carolina is the team to keep an eye on. LeBrun says Leafs are probably interested in Pesce

Bruins doing a backburner search for a veteran forward. preferably a center.
They are dangling one of their young guys like potentially Anders Bjork and Danton Heinen.
Not saying those players are being shopped, but maybe a team with a veteran forward is looking to replace him with a younger cheaper option.

Agent Brisson and GM Dorion had a meeting about Duchene's future.
Lines of communication open but nothing more than that at this point

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Probably a little of column A and a little of column B. Gio makes anybody look better and Brodie is obviously more comfortable on the right.

I agree with being a little from A and a little from B, but I think the systems change has been a breath of fresh air for his game. Gulutzan's system didn't play to Brodie's strengths, which is moving the puck with speed and creating offence. It is A, B and C, in my opinion.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by keenan87

Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm = 17.975 MM

Originally Posted by jayswin

I still can't believe what we're paying our top line, long term. For that level of talent in today's dollars you could easily be in the $25mil range.

For some reference these lines have existed at one point this season:

Parise-Koivu-Granlund = 18.75M
Boedker-Duchene-Ryan = 17.25
Skinner-Berglund-Okposo= 15.58M
Machessault-Karlsson-Smith = 15.25M (with Karlsson getting a payraise next year)
Baertschi-Horvat-Eriksson = 14.87M
Nyquist-Larkin-Helm = 14.7M
Foligno-Dubinsky-Nash = 14.1M

And of course the legendary:
Lucic-McDavid-Draisaitl = 27M


Still Boston's Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak at under 20M for the next 4 seasons has to be the best line signed long-term.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

That would be ideal.

I am starting to wonder more about the possibility that he will go after Cam Talbot. Especially given Edmonton's track record with goalies one has to think that he is probably a lot better than he has played over the last calendar year, and Treliving was after him the same summer that he was traded to Edmonton. There may be a good opportunity there after the season to pick up a starting goalie with big potential to improve for cheap.

If Oilers are out of it, I could see Talbot moved at the deadline. Since I doubt these two teams would agree to a major trade, another team could have a leg up in signing him next year if it works out that way.

[Split98]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

That would be ideal.

I am starting to wonder more about the possibility that he will go after Cam Talbot. Especially given Edmonton's track record with goalies one has to think that he is probably a lot better than he has played over the last calendar year, and Treliving was after him the same summer that he was traded to Edmonton. There may be a good opportunity there after the season to pick up a starting goalie with big potential to improve for cheap.

You would have to think that the cost to acquire him isn't going to be going up any time soon...

[Split98]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

If Oilers are out of it, I could see Talbot moved at the deadline. Since I doubt these two teams would agree to a major trade, another team could have a leg up in signing him next year if it works out that way.

I don't think I'd want to see any of our guys over there either.

With Edmonton's need for everything, I think making a 3-way trade happen is pretty do-able here.

[savemedrzaius]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Insider Trading:

https://www.tsn.ca/video/insider-tra...-trade~1515636

The impasse between Ritchie and the Ducks looks like it is beginning to thaw
Not done. Real possibility that it might be done this week assuming no further hiccups
Expected to be a 3 year deal

Cap could force Nylander or Kapanen trade.
If Kapanen gets 50 points he could get a $5 mil plus per deal

It is important for Nylander to sign a contract that he can live with not only in Toronto but on another team.
Kapenen's emergence has strengthened Nylander's belief he might just be trade bait

Dubas does not want to trade Nylander, but as they get closer to the Dec 1 deadline, Leafs need to make a decision
Teams keeping track of Nylander.
Carolina is the team to keep an eye on. LeBrun says Leafs are probably interested in Pesce

Bruins doing a backburner search for a veteran forward. preferably a center.
They are dangling one of their young guys like potentially Anders Bjork and Danton Heinen.
Not saying those players are being shopped, but maybe a team with a veteran forward is looking to replace him with a younger cheaper option.

Agent Brisson and GM Dorion had a meeting about Duchene's future.
Lines of communication open but nothing more than that at this point

I really wish all the contract details were made public.

I really want to know what the Leafs are offering. But if it really is 6.5x6 that seems reasonable to me. I think the Leafs are only buying one UFA year there.

And the thing about Kappy is funny. Well Willy that's kind of on you, no? If you signed the deal Kappy wouldn't be on the 1st line and hurting your position even more.

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

That would be ideal.

I am starting to wonder more about the possibility that he will go after Cam Talbot. Especially given Edmonton's track record with goalies one has to think that he is probably a lot better than he has played over the last calendar year, and Treliving was after him the same summer that he was traded to Edmonton. There may be a good opportunity there after the season to pick up a starting goalie with big potential to improve for cheap.

If Kinkaid keeps playing lights out for NJ maybe they will consider trading Schnieder.

If he can stay healthy he could be a good fit for a few years. Hopefully Parsons figures things out by then.

Schnieder is signed for 3 years after this one for $6m while Kinkaid is a UFA.

Might make some sense for both clubs.

[Krynn]

I cant remember where I heard this but I did hear that the Habs have been looking at Bennett .If I trade would go down what would you think the return would be?
I think we should hold on to him at least until the Deadline or indefinitely

[SeanCharles]

We're not trading Bennett.

We need a guy like him to play hard, finish checks and create offensive opportunities.

[Flames1217]

Originally Posted by SeanCharles

We're not trading Bennett.

We need a guy like him to play hard, finish checks and create offensive opportunities.

Also at this point in the season hes been a line driver. If he continues he may be key to our depth. If anything we may end up moving out a center if Dube sticks at center. Ideally though i run my bottom six as such:

Bennett-Dube-Neal
Frolik-Jankowski-Ryan