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Old 10-24-2014, 09:01 AM   #3601
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I have received a one shot doctor power from Mazrim. Hopefully it works. I think at this stage disclosing what my two powers are is fine because it will tell everyone why I have not done any night actions. Both of my abilities are pretty much a self judgement call. Ability one: I can make someone very hard to lynch. Everybody has to vote for them or it is no lynch. I have not been confident on using this on anyone who has been on the verge of being lynched and it is a night action which makes it even harder.
2: I can make someone's vote count for two on the next day. Again, when would I use this so far? Also a night power.
I figured GGG was unlynchable after the first go, we wasted a day there we could not afford. We ned to re-focus here and finally get a scum. Also, who are we thinking we should protect with the doctor ability I was given?
I think your best guess amoungst the Known townies based on your gut on known townies. Annoucing it means we know they don't kill that person. Doing it randomly could save some one. Timbo in theory has a one shot doctor as well so hopefully you don't go overlapping.

Timbo should protect himself with bucketing whoever he uses the doctor power on.

2) I wouldn't use your double vote power. If you are wrong and hit town mafia would win by voting that one to lynch and based on numbers tomorrow we couldn't stop them.

With your unanimous lynch power would we as a town know who you used it on the next day.?
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Old 10-24-2014, 09:04 AM   #3602
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I think your best guess amoungst the Known townies based on your gut on known townies. Annoucing it means we know they don't kill that person. Doing it randomly could save some one. Timbo in theory has a one shot doctor as well so hopefully you don't go overlapping.

Timbo should protect himself with bucketing whoever he uses the doctor power on.

2) I wouldn't use your double vote power. If you are wrong and hit town mafia would win by voting that one to lynch and based on numbers tomorrow we couldn't stop them.

With your unanimous lynch power would we as a town know who you used it on the next day.?
The only issue is Timbo/Diss could overlap their protection.
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There's also the chance Timbo's powers don't work because they were given by one of the groups, not an assigned power from Mazrim like what Diss has.

Overlap might not be an issue. But I get where your coming from.
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I think your best guess amoungst the Known townies based on your gut on known townies. Annoucing it means we know they don't kill that person. Doing it randomly could save some one. Timbo in theory has a one shot doctor as well so hopefully you don't go overlapping.

Timbo should protect himself with bucketing whoever he uses the doctor power on.

2) I wouldn't use your double vote power. If you are wrong and hit town mafia would win by voting that one to lynch and based on numbers tomorrow we couldn't stop them.

With your unanimous lynch power would we as a town know who you used it on the next day.?
I thought there might be an unanimous power, or condition, on you GGG, which is why I tried to get everybody to vote on day 5. Now that I am convinced you were telling the truth (with multiple blatantly obvious facts). Although Pika is worried his invitation to Yoshi Island will be revoked, he will vote.

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I already took you to Yoshi Island yesterday.

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I hit send before I gave my rationale. Girly was on GGG really early on, including the big pink neon post. Pika is thinking she might have known about him being unlynchable (mafia tracking power), and thus kept trying to get us to go after him to use up a day and get to the mafia night kills. Others have been suspicious of her as well, so I thought I'd start the charge. Pika thinks she's the best target at this point in the game.
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So now that we are down to two with unknown powers I think it's time to vote for one (even though Diss' powers scare me a little I don't think he is lying about them. Not sure if they are good or bad though).

Suspected for most of the game, never really gained any traction when people brought up her name, has some suspect theories on how we should operate, power is unknown.

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I already took you to Yoshi Island yesterday.

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Pika was drunk and you took advantage of him. For shame! Call me maybe?
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At this point in the game I have run out of ideas how to draw scum out.
GGG suggests a power reveal. It's laying all our cards on the table.
Mine are all revealed with my bucket being proven.
The point on my one shot being fake is not lost on me and I had thought I would bucket who I protected to keep me protected as well.

So do we do the Power reveal and hope to find something there?
Do we go back to square 1 and vote for lowest poster?
Do we compile a scum list and see if we can find anything there?
Do we trust our Masons?

I'm all ears and open to suggestion
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Looks like we are going with the lack of power reveal.
I will vote for Girly but I am willing to hear her out, and un-vote if need.

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At this point in the game I have run out of ideas how to draw scum out.
GGG suggests a power reveal. It's laying all our cards on the table.
Mine are all revealed with my bucket being proven.
The point on my one shot being fake is not lost on me and I had thought I would bucket who I protected to keep me protected as well.

So do we do the Power reveal and hope to find something there?
Do we go back to square 1 and vote for lowest poster?
Do we compile a scum list and see if we can find anything there?
Do we trust our Masons?

I'm all ears and open to suggestion
If your power doesn't work and you bucket them, and the mafia night kill them you will get killed as well. I know it's a lot of if's but we can't lose 2 at night at this point.
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Pika was drunk and you took advantage of him. For shame! Call me maybe?
STOP RUINING MY CHILDHOOD WITH THESE MENTAL PICTURES!

First Peach and Bowser, now Pikachu and Yoshi. I'm going to need some serious therapy before I can touch my Nintendo again.
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If your power doesn't work and you bucket them, and the mafia night kill them you will get killed as well. I know it's a lot of if's but we can't lose 2 at night at this point.
Yup a risk I'm all to aware of.
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I'm going to address this one last time since it keeps coming up: I am not a ####### mod. If something doesn't work out as you expected, it's because the game is complicated and lots of things are happening, not because I am directly lying to you.
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Diss how come you were on Rathji about his power being anti-town? Your power of making someone almost unlynchable could be seen as anti-town, if you are mafia and one of your buddies is in trouble you can make them pretty much unlynchable. Also now that the numbers are getting down having a double vote could be huge in manipulating the outcome of the game.

I'm not saying you are mafia, but I find it weird you accuse Rathji of having an anti-town power when you have 2 that could be viewed as anti-town.
My main point I was trying to make with that was that nobody is a confirmed townie, people were starting to use such labels. Without a cop producing some confimations we can't get caught up in that. I was also worried the message I was sent meant for him to posy in the mafia board but looking back it specifically stated mafia topic. I was using Rathji to make a solid stance that we can't confirm anybody as town. Even with all that if you look back I didn't vote for him, I voted for GS before finally going along with the others for GGG. Like your post stated and mine did too, I felt the vote for GGG was going to be a waste but the others were hell bent so I went with the group.
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Old 10-24-2014, 11:08 AM   #3617
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I'm going to address this one last time since it keeps coming up: I am not a ####### mod. If something doesn't work out as you expected, it's because the game is complicated and lots of things are happening, not because I am directly lying to you.
Pika meant no disrespect. He thought he had found a nugget. If CP didn't block out the word the first time, I'd have never looked into it.
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The only issue is Timbo/Diss could overlap their protection.
Its better they overlap then be disclosed. If they disclose who they protect the scum won't kill them.
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If your power doesn't work and you bucket them, and the mafia night kill them you will get killed as well. I know it's a lot of if's but we can't lose 2 at night at this point.
Guardian powers appear to work.

Starseed investigated wood night one: It was returned town
I tracked puxlut: Returned ECF results. (redirected???)
Rathji used the day kill on Form ( Form on Bullet Proof)

So in general I believe these powers to work.
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My dousing failed. If Squiggs said he pushed it forward, either:
a:eternal powers don't work
b:squiggs lied about pushing it forward.

I'm leaning toward A.
Piece of #####.
Wasn't your power a two part process, as in don't you have to prime them at night and then ignite them during the day? Or did you receive a message that the priming did not work? Pika looked up arsonist and there is a firefighter role, which maybe someone used to block your action.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Arsonist

As shown by Oling, Chu did use his powers on you.
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