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Old 10-15-2010, 09:04 AM   #341
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US company NESV set to announce purchase of Liverpool

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Old 10-15-2010, 09:17 AM   #342
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Hicks & Gillett back down to pursue $1.6bn claim


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Tom Hicks and George Gillett have admitted defeat in their bid to hold on to Liverpool as the Royal Bank of Scotland rejected the owners' pledge to pay off their debts.

A statement from Hicks and Gillett's camp read: ''It's an extraordinary swindle and it will result in exactly the wrong thing for the club and the fans.''

''It is a tragic development that others will claim as a victory. This means it won't be resolved the way it should be resolved. My clients worked tirelessly to resolve these issues but RBS would not listen to any reasonable solution and the directors acted selfishly and illegally.

''Mr. Hicks and Mr. Gillett wanted to position this club for the future, but others have a different agenda. In truth, there is nothing positive from these events for Liverpool Football [Club]. That is exactly the opposite of what my clients wanted to achieve.''
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/st...ngland&cc=5901

Well. They write a good press clipping, I'll give them that.

The Hicks and Gilette Monster is officially dead. I hope the Shankly Gates hit 'em in the ass on their way out.

Now, lets play a little game I like to call, 'Spot the Lie.' Having H&G as owners for 3 years I've actually gotten quite good at it:

- RBS rejected the Owner's 'pledge' to pay off the debts.

Actually thats true, but basically because they had borrowed £237M from RBS and now they were trying to borrow more from someone else to pay off what they had already borrowed. Most people would call that 'Robbing Peter to pay Paul.' In essence, they werent 'good for it' and RBS knew it and they wanted out before the whole house of cards came toppling down.

- 'Its an Extraordinary swindle'

Actually, its a pretty fair price, just because they 'wanted' more than double that amount doesnt mean that the asset was worth it after several years of woeful mismanagement. Not to mention the crippling debt load and the sale of World Class players and their replacement with vastly inferior substitutes. They drove the value down, they just either dont see it or dont want to admit it.

- H&G wanted to "position this club for the future!"

That is a huge load of BS right there. Position this club for the future? HOW? They couldnt afford to keep it running for the short term let alone the future. These guys were borrowing money for everything. They were trying to borrow money to pay off borrowed money! It was never going to get any better, every cent the club earned was plowed into an interest payment. Every. Single. Cent. And I'm talking interest!!

Not even a smidgen of principle. How was the club supposed to ever grow with no available capital? What was going to happen with the new ground? Where was that money going to come from? Sorry, they were going to borrow it right? Theres that word again that H&G love so dearly, 'borrow.' So, tell me this geniuses, borrow from WHO? All those lenders chomping at the bit to give you guys cash? And they are exactly all of whom?

- 'Its a tragic development.'

I actually rather quite like it. If for no other reason than if and when NESV want to sell Liverpool they'll want to make some money off of it, oh and they can, all they have to do is:

- Eliminate the debt - Check! <- Seriously. They've already done this, its part of the purchase price.
- Bring in World Class Talent to have a successful club again

They dont even need a new ground (yet). Further, they've actually got their own capital, money, so they make an investment and use the profits from the club's operating revenue (which is considerable, like 6th in the world for football clubs) to invest further and grow and generate more revenue.

- H&G 'worked tirelessly to resolve.'

H&G worked tirelessly indeed, but not to resolve jack. They were hanging on by tooth and nail because they have no idea how badly and thoroughly they have ruined and de-valued this club. But they could never fix it, and they could never fix it because it needs money. "No Strings Attached" money. Not debt that comes with huge financing burdens. You cant grow that way.

- The Board acted "Selfishly and Illegally."

Yeah? Is that so? Guess what, you're on that Board! If you want to chastise the Board's actions how about getting a restraining order on a British Football Club in fataing TEXAS!!

- 'Exactly the opposite of what H&G wanted to achieve.'

All H&G ever wanted to achieve was a quick buck that they never had to invest a personal dime into. "Liverpool will be the most profitable investment I've ever made." Sound familiar?

And Finally:

-'Its the wrong thing for the Club and the fans.'

H&G telling anyone whats 'wrong' for the club and the fans is so hilariously rich its stunning. Anything is better for the Club and the fans than these two. Thats how disgustingly out of touch they are.

H&G. Not Welcome Anywhere.

Now, Gentlemen, if you'd be so kind as to GTFO of my Club. This is Liverpool. This is Anfield. And This (Finally) Has Nothing (Anymore) To Do With Texas.
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Old 10-15-2010, 09:22 AM   #343
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Done Deal. NESV are the new owners.

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I'm actually leaving to go and buy a new Liverpool Jersey right now.

Seriously.
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Love it:

"How are you funding the deal Mr. Henry?"
"With Pounds."
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I'm actually leaving to go and buy a new Liverpool Jersey right now.

Seriously.
20% off through LFC online store. its a celebration!
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H&G have dropped their (insane) $1.6B lawsuit against Liverpool and NESV and RBS in light of the fact that they have absolutely no case and probably no money left.
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Awesome post above Locke.

Delighted beyond belief to finally get rid of those dickwads.

Now I can finally buy my kids new Liverpool jerseys

On my phone so will post more later

Hicks incredible response (he's devastated the poor baby!)
http://m.espn.go.com/soccer/story?w=...=TOP&topslot=1


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Awesome post above Locke.

Delighted beyond belief to finally get rid of those dickwads.

Now I can finally buy my kids new Liverpool jerseys

On my phone so will post more later

Hicks incredible response (he's devastated the poor baby!)
http://m.espn.go.com/soccer/story?w=...=TOP&topslot=1


Happy day guys!!!!!
That is an unbelievable interview. Hes completely out of his goddamn mind.
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After all this recent BS I think it's high time for this. Sing it loud and proud guys:


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H&G have dropped their (insane) $1.6B lawsuit against Liverpool and NESV and RBS in light of the fact that they have absolutely no case and probably no money left.
I haven't been able to find this. If true, then I promise not to kick them if I see them. I will only wreck their eardrums with my voice, and possibly crap on their front lawn...ok definitely crap on their front lawn.

Ordering my kit tomorrow, match Sunday morning bright and early. It will be undoubtedly the GREATEST ever 5:30am celebration ever.
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That is an unbelievable interview. Hes completely out of his goddamn mind.
Yup, he's a complete lunatic. Thank jebus he's out on his ass. Hope like hell Stevie and the boys play an inspired match on Sunday as a result.
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Yup, he's a complete lunatic. Thank jebus he's out on his ass. Hope like hell Stevie and the boys play an inspired match on Sunday as a result.
If the boys are even half as fired up as I am Everton are going to get stuffed.
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I haven't been able to find this. If true, then I promise not to kick them if I see them. I will only wreck their eardrums with my voice, and possibly crap on their front lawn...ok definitely crap on their front lawn.

Ordering my kit tomorrow, match Sunday morning bright and early. It will be undoubtedly the GREATEST ever 5:30am celebration ever.
NO! These two clownshoes idiots deserve everything coming to them. They brought this on to themselves. They earned this.

I am intensely proud of the supporters unions for their part in bringing this about. As Hicks himself put it, 'internet terrorism.'

Well in lads.

Picked up my new shirt today, rocking it on Sunday. Bring it boys.
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This may not be "the Liverpool way" but our Woy just has to go NOW. He thought we played well against the Bitters. Holy crap. Does he come from the Sutter school of deluded ways at looking at things? Guess so, as he's old school too.

Liverpool were poor beyond belief against an average Everton side, but not if you ask the manager. If Roy stays on then NESV's investment will be worth 60 million next season, I honestly belief that. I'm all for giving people a chance, I do it in my business, but when that person displays absolutely none of the qualities necessary whatsoever it's time to cut your losses.

19th in the league, 19th and our manager was smiling after the match. Frig.
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It is amazing that Woy is kopping it (see what I did there?) for the utter crapness of the players. Woy needs time to make his mark, and with the squad Liverpool have, that will be impossible until January.
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It is amazing that Woy is kopping it (see what I did there?) for the utter crapness of the players. Woy needs time to make his mark, and with the squad Liverpool have, that will be impossible until January.
You're blind. Roy is not a very good manager as a whole(minus one good run with Fulham) and is terrible with us.

It is his fault. If you want to try and tell me that this squad can't beat Blackpool or Sunderland at home, get smashed by Everton and City, and completely embarrassed by United minus 10 minutes of good football then Roy is for you. Losing to Northhampton fielding a decent side? me.

Roy has been terrible tactically, he's been arrogant, and is exactly the manager anyone with half a brain thought he would be, except worse.

The main problem with him is that there has been NO improvement. Every week the same, with no signs of life.

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