Best way to get in shape?

[Tron_fdc]

Originally Posted by oilers_fan

You mean creatine which is naturally produced in ones body? Albeit in smaller doses...

Sweet, I'm gonna go load up on testosterone....

[Komskies]

Originally Posted by Burninator

Everything is a chemical.

Atomic bombs are dangerous.

Wait... everything is atomic.

See what i did there?

[GreenTeaFrapp]

Originally Posted by Azure

The only non-naturally produced chemical that I put into my body is alcohol.

Isn't alcohol produced naturally?

[Komskies]

Originally Posted by GreenTeaFrapp

Isn't alcohol produced naturally?

I can't access Youtube at work but if somebody wants to embed this video, yes, alcohol can be produced naturally.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVG4XAFJZZY

[metallicat]

Originally Posted by Tron_fdc

Sweet, I'm gonna go load up on testosterone....

Well I haven't seen too many negative studies on creatine, unless I'm just not looking hard enough.

[Tron_fdc]

Originally Posted by oilers_fan

Well I haven't seen too many negative studies on creatine, unless I'm just not looking hard enough.

There is, I've read a few here and there on the net.

I'll preface this by saying I'm no nutritionist and I'm not an expert, but I've tried just about every supplement there is or has been over the last 15 years (not including the illegal ones, of course).

I can only speak from experience, and it's my experience that creatine leads to a high rate of injuries. Exactly from what though, I can't tell you. I went on it years back when I was playing a lot of rugby (as did half the team) and almost everyone ended up getting buggered up from pulled muscles or major joint pain, which occurred at a waaaaaaay higher rate than normal (nevermind the massive IBS it caused when supplemented with protein, but that story was actually pretty funny). Our group conclusion was that it's not worth it.

I can only say that based on the wiiiiiide array of supplements I've seen (and this includes pretty much ALL the illegal ones too) you're better off eating right, exercising regularily, adjusting your workouts depending on what you're trying to accomplish, and supplementing with protein and vitamins. Too much in one direction and you're either going to get fat when you come off it, or get injured when you're on it.

Again, that's only speaking from my experience. I'm the kind of person that needs to try something to make up my mind, so if you're like me I'd say give 'er. When I was on it I was never really concerned with the long term problems, just the short term injury problems it seemed to cause.

[ben voyonsdonc]

Originally Posted by Tron_fdc

I can only speak from experience, and it's my experience that creatine leads to a high rate of injuries. Exactly from what though, I can't tell you. I went on it years back when I was playing a lot of rugby (as did half the team) and almost everyone ended up getting buggered up from pulled muscles or major joint pain, which occurred at a waaaaaaay higher rate than normal (nevermind the massive IBS it caused when supplemented with protein, but that story was actually pretty funny).

I tried creatine for a month or so and definitely bulked up a bit but it felt really bloated because of the water retention...I felt like my fingers were sausages and I definitely felt more cramping in my muscles when I was taking it.

[metallicat]

I think that is one of the benefits of this kre alkelyn that HOOT introduced to me. No bloating.

[Flame Of Liberty]

Originally Posted by oilers_fan

I think that is one of the benefits of this kre alkelyn that HOOT introduced to me. No bloating.

That's probably because you take lower doses. I've done both, and found little difference (other than mono is cheaper). I take monohydrate, no problems whatsoever.

PS Agree completely with User Name on previous page...

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by Komskies

You guys are crazy for putting all kinds of weird chemicals into your body.

This statement is from lack of knowledge.

[Komskies]

Originally Posted by HOOT

This statement is from lack of knowledge.

You're fooling yourself if you think there are no negative effects associated with taking Creatine suppliments.

[User Name]

From what I have researched there have been ZERO cases of creatine causing problems WHEN USED RESPONSIBLY. If you take mono (or any other form) at 2-5grams then you will be fine. YOU ALSO NEED TO STAY HYDRATED.

The cramping that one user reported is from lack of hydration, which causes cramping.

I think the one or two cases of people that had negative effects from creatine is when they were taking like 10-20grams per day. Anything in high doses is bad for you, its simple logic.

Example: The person who died from drinking to much water to win a Wii... Can't remember the exact cause, but is water dangerous? No.

[User Name]

Originally Posted by HOOT

This statement is from lack of knowledge.

Agreed.

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by Komskies

You're fooling yourself if you think there are no negative effects associated with taking Creatine suppliments.

There could be negative effects in anything. You can even drink too much water and hurt yourself. It is all about quantity you are taking. If you are taking 5-10g a day then there is very little (I'd even say zero) chance of something horrible happening to you.

This isn't my opinion either, this has all been studied and tested for the last 10+ years. Creatine is actually the most studied supplement on the market because it has been around so long and proven to have great results.

But continue to believe your opinion, I will stick to the thousands of studies that have proved otherwise over the last decade and counting.

[User Name]

Actually creatine has been studied since the earlies 80's I believe.... Might even be the very late 70s....Although it really didn't get widespread use until the 90's.

Like Hoot said, there are probably thousands of studies on the saftey of creatine. Taken responsibly there is no issue.

[metallicat]

For those saying it has negative affects to ones health, I would like to see the studies. I am not trying to be a dick, I just want to read the studies if there actually are that state problems with creatine.

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by oilers_fan

For those saying it has negative affects to ones health, I would like to see the studies. I am not trying to be a dick, I just want to read the studies if there actually are that state problems with creatine.

The worst you are going to read is damage to your liver and kidney. This happens with large doses for long periods of time. Also it is not recommended to take Creatine with acidic drinks because of the ph numbers already in Creatine.

My biggest suggestion is to trust your body! If you are taking something new and your body is not feeling well for whatever reason, stop! I am sure just like any supplement, medicine, food or drink everyone reacts to it differently.

[metallicat]

I wanted to share this. I watched this video awhile back, and sort of forgot about it until I saw another video with this guy doing a lecture. The video is available on the CrossFit journal. This is Captain Brian Chontosh of the US Marines. His story is widely available on the internet, but here is his wikipedia page. A true American hero, and an amazing video on what this guy is capable of physically.

http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/C...hDoesGrace.mov

[HOOT]

Also as you may have noticed once we asked for studies showing the negative effects of Creatine the haters disappeared never to return.

[metallicat]

Yeah, good point. I've been taking the pills for a few days now. I love so much that I don't have to drink the powdered crap with water anymore.