October 6 - So it Begins - The Alberta Teacher Strike

[Regorium]

Teachers’ Strike: Most Albertans side with teachers as they criticize UCP’s handling of education

Pretty interesting poll. I guess I never realized how many UCP voters had kids in private school.

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by P-Rugby

He was the Gym Teacher at Bishop Carrol in the early 2010's

He was my gym teacher at Don Bosco back in the late 90s, good dude. I also had Stu Hart as a sub.

We were huge WWF fans back then, it's back when Bret was the #1 guy there. We'd just be grilling him about if certain storylines were true, etc.

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by Sainters7

He was my gym teacher at Don Bosco back in the late 90s, good dude. I also had Stu Hart as a sub.

We were huge WWF fans back then, it's back when Bret was the #1 guy there. We'd just be grilling him about if certain storylines were true, etc.

Imagine John Cena is your teacher for a day. We had it good as bizarre as it was.

Did they have a board meeting? Ok, we cannot seem to recruit substitute teachers. and someone pipes up, "have we thought of professional wrestlers?"

[puffnstuff]

I had both Bruce and Keith Hart as subs, would have been in the early 80s I guess.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Locke

I had a Calgary Stampeder as a Sub...and then later in life I ended up working with him at Greyhound and watched him get stoned as hell and drive a forklift into a Bus.

And I should be clear, it wasn't like he 'slightly dinged' the Bus, I mean full speed ahead, broadside of the Bus with the forks up and skewered it like a hot dog on a roasting stick over a campfire.

Then someone had to extricate him from the forklift and then try and get the thing out of the Bus, it was a whole process. Forklifts are powerful machines, he lifted the whole Bus off of one side.

But in Professional Greyhound fashion his discipline was being politely asked not to do that again.

You dont even want to know half of the other crap he did, but he had Seniority.

What a job.

Anyways, this doesnt really have anything to do with teaching. I suppose these were 'teachable moments' at the Ol' Dirty Dawg but...not much more than that.

[woob]

Any news from yesterday?

[The Fisher Account]

Had “frank” talks. More discussions planned for the end of this week.

[malcolmk14]

Finance Minister Nate Horner was on 770 this morning just after 9:30 AM and summarized it as:

- Teachers proposal is "shooting for the moon", an additional $2B on top of the $2.6B already offered.
- Teachers want classroom complexity addressed with language around class caps which Horner thinks are impossible (I have an easy solution to this issue*).
- Additional $2B is about half wage increases and half complexity being addressed.
- Still wants a negotiated deal and would rather have teachers be part of the agreement rather than legislating us back (I read this as wanting us to accept the government's next offer because 'they're just going to legislate us back anyway'.)
- Anticipates that once legislature is back in session on the 27th they would start the process to mandate teachers back quickly if there isn't an agreed-upon settlement.


*Easy solution to class caps - funding for the students above the cap goes straight to the teacher. I'm sure they'll find a way in no time to get the class sizes under control.

[puffnstuff]

Originally Posted by woob

Any news from yesterday?

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[kootenayguy9]

Originally Posted by malcolmk14

Finance Minister Nate Horner was on 770 this morning just after 9:30 AM and summarized it as:

- Teachers proposal is "shooting for the moon", an additional $2B on top of the $2.6B already offered.
- Teachers want classroom complexity addressed with language around class caps which Horner thinks are impossible (I have an easy solution to this issue*).
- Additional $2B is about half wage increases and half complexity being addressed.
- Still wants a negotiated deal and would rather have teachers be part of the agreement rather than legislating us back (I read this as wanting us to accept the government's next offer because 'they're just going to legislate us back anyway'.
- Anticipates that once legislature is back in session on the 27th they would start the process to mandate teachers back quickly if there isn't an agreed-upon settlement.

https://globalnews.ca/pages/on-demand-qr-calgary/ Conversation starts at 9:32 AM

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Regorium

Teachers’ Strike: Most Albertans side with teachers as they criticize UCP’s handling of education

Pretty interesting poll. I guess I never realized how many UCP voters had kids in private school.

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[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by malcolmk14

Finance Minister Nate Horner was on 770 this morning just after 9:30 AM and summarized it as:


- Anticipates that once legislature is back in session on the 27th they would start the process to mandate teachers back quickly if there isn't an agreed-upon settlement.

That didn't work last time, why will it work this time?

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by kootenayguy9

https://globalnews.ca/pages/on-demand-qr-calgary/ Conversation starts at 9:32 AM

Parents need to be and should be speaking out now if they have any concern for their children's future. The province isn't negotiating, but merely playing stupid and trying to bleed teachers dry. This is still the same offer from basically a year ago and it is clearly just a game to all the UCP clowns with 700,000 kids out of school, missing out on education time. 1M plus parents are struggling to have them cared for, and the best part is, the result is going to be going back to horrifically underfunded schools, overcrowded classrooms with no end in sight.

It's fully embarrassing to be an Albertan now, and I have a really hard time typing that. The people so many once again chose to put in charge of this provinces future should be completely and thoroughly ashamed by this indifference to educating our youth, the separatist movement, and dismantling of public healthcare going on. Well done.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by malcolmk14

Finance Minister Nate Horner was on 770 this morning just after 9:30 AM and summarized it as:

- Teachers proposal is "shooting for the moon", an additional $2B on top of the $2.6B already offered.
- Teachers want classroom complexity addressed with language around class caps which Horner thinks are impossible (I have an easy solution to this issue*).
- Additional $2B is about half wage increases and half complexity being addressed.
- Still wants a negotiated deal and would rather have teachers be part of the agreement rather than legislating us back (I read this as wanting us to accept the government's next offer because 'they're just going to legislate us back anyway'.)
- Anticipates that once legislature is back in session on the 27th they would start the process to mandate teachers back quickly if there isn't an agreed-upon settlement.


*Easy solution to class caps - funding for the students above the cap goes straight to the teacher. I'm sure they'll find a way in no time to get the class sizes under control.

Their easy solution is to piss people off so much that they just move away and then class sizes decline to manageable levels (until they cut teachers).

[puffnstuff]

I am sure this negotiation and attitude towards educators will have nothing but positive outcomes to entice teachers to flock here to be hired and swarms of people going to university to become new teachers.

[puckedoff]

How much of class sizing is due to number of teachers and how much is number of available classrooms? I am assuming in order to get to the class size number that the teachers (and most of the voting population) is asking for, Alberta would need to build new schools or renovate/add on to existing schools.

Is there a time frame and cost for this in the Teachers proposal?

[The Fisher Account]

Originally Posted by puckedoff

How much of class sizing is due to number of teachers and how much is number of available classrooms? I am assuming in order to get to the class size number that the teachers (and most of the voting population) is asking for, Alberta would need to build new schools or renovate/add on to existing schools.

Is there a time frame and cost for this in the Teachers proposal?

Why is it up to the teachers to propose building an appropriate amount of schools for our kids?

Do Doctors and nurses negotiate on the number of hospitals Alberta has?

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by The Fisher Account

Why is it up to the teachers to propose building an appropriate amount of schools for our kids?

Do Doctors and nurses negotiate on the number of hospitals Alberta has?

x 100

The government making massive infrastructure shortfalls the problem of the teacher's union is hysterically dumb.

They, and their predecessors in the same party, have failed to appropriately plan for the massive population growth we have experienced (and was partly brought on by their campaigns like Alberta's calling).

Beyond this the new schools they proposed to build barely even meet demand at current service levels. To actually reduce class size they would need to plan more schools.

This is the consequence of many consecutive years (maybe decades) of critically underfunding infrastructure.

[woob]

These #####ers are going to leave teachers, students, and parents high and dry until the #ableg resumes on the 27th, at which point they'll put in back to work legislation? How about you do your ####ing jobs and get this sorted out OR do the back to work legislation now, so the teachers can tell you to pound sand and we get to the next steps before November.

I'm so enraged by this government across so many portfolios, but this one really drives me to madness.

[puckedoff]

I'm not saying its the teachers job to plan the capital spend for schooling, but if they are asking for something that would require schools to be built if agreed I am curious if the demand has a timeframe for when it needs to be met.