brz is probably not giving a #### about dev camp. just going through the motions. thats my assumption as to why folks don’t seem impressed.
he’s not in the team’s bottom tier of prospects. that’s just not accurate.
I don’t think that’s the case at all - I would guess he put an awful lot of pressure on himself to come in and impress. He was the team’s best defensive
Prospect for three months, and then the team drafts the only D in the OHL to outscore him.
Dude should relax, go to the Stampede, and prepare to have a good scrimmage tomorrow.
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Apologies if this was already posted, but Honzek certainly looks beefier than last year. It's also cool to hear that he's training with Pospisol and Pospisol is as much of an ***hole motivator as he is an agitator. "Sometimes I want to just punch him, because it's annoying."
Great guy to have working with Honzek as he went through his own injury stuff and his work and determination really paid off.
He's also not a "toolsy" player. He's a guy that relies heavily on his IQ and vision which are much tougher to display in drills. It's nice to see these players up close, but development camp is borderline useless for player evaluation.
They can certainly reveal whether or not your group has talent.
This one does.
Lotta smooth skaters, lotta soft hands, lotta heavy shots, at both ends of the ice.
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Parekh actually reminds me more of Jarome when he talks than Tij does. Tij has a bit more of your typical "hockey player" demeanour, which is perfectly fine, but Zayne has that quiet confidence and humility combined with a wide grin that just immediately brings me back to watching Iginla talk to the media.
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Parekh actually reminds me more of Jarome when he talks than Tij does. Tij has a bit more of your typical "hockey player" demeanour, which is perfectly fine, but Zayne has that quiet confidence and humility combined with a wide grin that just immediately brings me back to watching Iginla talk to the media.
Yeah, I think it's the grin. He seems to make direct eye contact with the reporter and make a huge smile.
He also doesn't give such vanilla answers. Like Iginla, he's not afraid to crack a joke here and there.
I know it was a long time ago but does anyone remember what they said about Gaudreau, AHL for a year etc.
If the kids shows he can play then give him the chance.
Johnny also played 3 full seasons of college hockey after being drafted so he didn't play his first pro game until he was just about 21 years old. Zayne is 18. For sure, give him a chance but unless he's killing it, send him back for one more year of junior.
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Parekh actually reminds me more of Jarome when he talks than Tij does. Tij has a bit more of your typical "hockey player" demeanour, which is perfectly fine, but Zayne has that quiet confidence and humility combined with a wide grin that just immediately brings me back to watching Iginla talk to the media.
I noticed that myself.
Like Jarome, Parekh has had to blaze his own trail. The humility comes from starting out as an ordinary kid, the confidence from having done so much by his own efforts. Tij, through no fault of his own, never really had the opportunity to do that.
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Scrimmage should be a blast tomorrow. I wish I wasn't going to be away.
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brz is probably not giving a #### about dev camp. just going through the motions.
That's a good attitude to have in the first opportunity to impress your new team. I seriously doubt this is the case. These kids know what these events are about and what they can mean for your future.
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thats my assumption as to why folks don’t seem impressed.
Or it could be that he's being compared to other players that just have better skills, especially skating ability. It is one of the reasons as to why Brzustewicz was available to the Flames in a deal. The Canucks sat on their top prospects.
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he’s not in the team’s bottom tier of prospects. that’s just not accurate.
He's not in the bottom, but he is also not in the top. He's in that mushy middle part. He's going to have to fight his way through a bunch of bodies if he wants to get to the big club.
Battaglia seems like a player. His production was slow up until he got promoted to the top line, and then it took off like Senneke's did. Might be something really, really good with Battaglia.
I haven't heard anyone comment on Hunter Laing (or maybe I missed it?). How has he looked?
I absolutely love Battaglia, he was a personal favorite of mine leading up to the draft. He's one of the better shooters in the OHL, and reminds me a bit of Zach Hyman, with more of a natural goal-scoring touch. He's gritty and physical, with a good defensive conscience.
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I absolutely love Battaglia, he was a personal favorite of mine leading up to the draft. He's one of the better shooters in the OHL, and reminds me a bit of Zach Hyman, with more of a natural goal-scoring touch. He's gritty and physical, with a good defensive conscience.
Was happy with mews and misa where we got them as we didnt get a lot if the guys i wanted; was very happy to get battaglia though.
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@TheScorpion’s piece on William Stromgren’s development camp is really good. Lots of guys on this board write of prospects way too quickly and often want to trade them away for a shiny new draft pick if a player doesn’t immediately excel in their eyes.
Development has its ups and downs, and Stomgren is showing that (as Zary did last year). Calgary’s scouting staff seem like they can find them and the team’s development staff and management seems to understand how to develop them. This year’s draft and the stockpile of picks in the next two drafts is making me excited as past picks take their next steps.
@TheScorpion’s piece on William Stromgren’s development camp is really good. Lots of guys on this board write of prospects way too quickly and often want to trade them away for a shiny new draft pick if a player doesn’t immediately excel in their eyes.
Development has its ups and downs, and Stomgren is showing that (as Zary did last year). Calgary’s scouting staff seem like they can find them and the team’s development staff and management seems to understand how to develop them. This year’s draft and the stockpile of picks in the next two drafts is making me excited as past picks take their next steps.
The problem is a lot of people conflate generating points as development. They see a kid in junior racking up the goals and assists and think a kid is developing well, when in fact they may not be developing in any positive way, they are just floating to the top based on physical maturity and experience. Scoring points is meaningless if the player is not working on the weaknesses in their game and making a commitment to improving the areas where improvement is needed. Wait until you see these kids in the pro ranks before making a determination of what they likely are. That step to the next level will tell you about the player's development.
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The problem is a lot of people conflate generating points as development. They see a kid in junior racking up the goals and assists and think a kid is developing well, when in fact they may not be developing in any positive way, they are just floating to the top based on physical maturity and experience. Scoring points is meaningless if the player is not working on the weaknesses in their game and making a commitment to improving the areas where improvement is needed. Wait until you see these kids in the pro ranks before making a determination of what they likely are. That step to the next level will tell you about the player's development.
Exactly this. Racking up points in D+1 and D+2 years in the CHL is of little value. What is more important is working on skating, getting stronger, and working on the weaker aspects of their game. Fans don't follow those things at all, they just look at points.
Two examples that show the opposite ends of this:
Coronato: has been working on his skating, his positioning, etc. and fans are disappointed that he wasn't dominating the prospects camp.
Savoie: fans immediately call the Savoie trade a complete bust for BUF and a home run for EDM because he puts up points. Maybe the BUF scouts are seeing things fans aren't. There is more to development than dominating the CHL.
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