[Rumour] Babcock...doing Babcock things? Babcock resigns

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

You can look at his posting history of bullying me.

Please post some examples to share with the class. Or does that make you uncomfortable.

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

It's also not surprising when he comes to the defence of people being accused of the same behaviour.

Please post examples of where I came to the defence of an accused and not just actually calling out misinformation.

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

We had reputable reporters sharing stories of mental abuse but certain people have a tough time accepting their hero's are just not good people.

You love being vague, but please point out the names of these certain people, and please provide proof that anyone involved is a “hero” of theirs.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

It's been suggested by many people that I myself am located somewhere on the spectrum... and as someone who is often incapable of interpreting signals in time to stop talking or change my wording, I can assure you that constantly having people annoyed with me or going through life without anyone ever really taking me seriously or treating me with the same kind of respect I see them treat others with is most definitely a form of suffering.

Can confirm from my own experience. I've improved with time. Nowadays, oddly enough, I have most of my trouble online in places like this, where many people have their antennae set to ‘social setting, just shooting the ####’, but mine default to ‘verba volent, scripta manent, therefore every word must have been carefully thought out and needs to be taken seriously!’

As a child, I was often bullied at school, and hated the place. I was told I had to be there ‘to learn social skills’; but of course, the people who told me that could never tell me what social skills I was supposed to be learning, or how kids who didn't have them were supposed to teach them to other kids. I eventually came to the conclusion that most social skills are based on two recognitions:

1. Other people are real people, just as you are a person.
2. Other people are not the same person as you. In fact, they may be incredibly different in a lot of ways without breaking rule 1.

People with marked autism can have a lot of trouble applying recognition #1, but once they get it, #2 is obvious. Neurotypicals, and especially those who spend their formative years in an environment where they don't stand out in any particular way, get #1 instinctively but often hang up on #2.

Now, I'm just spitballing here, but topfiverecords said this:

I suggest everyone go check out the leaked footage on Twitter. Appears to me that Babcock was the one who was most uncomfortable. Not sure who the player in the video is but he has some funny pics.

If this interpretation is valid, then it sounds to me kind of like Babcock had a failure in mode #2. Like, ‘Hey, I'll show you the pictures on my phone, which are all innocent family stuff, and you show me yours… WHOA! I was not expecting THAT!’ Sorry, Mike, not everyone is a 60-year-old with a wife and kids to keep him in line. Please review recognition #2 and adjust accordingly.

[Scroopy Noopers]

^What leaked footage?

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

^What leaked footage?

For “reasons” my comment was in jest but some guys created a video acting out the situation as Babcock and a player. I figured everyone would have seen it since the SC guys promoted it.

NSFW!

https://twitter.com/user/status/1702813509875028460

[Matt Reeeeead]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

It's been suggested by many people that I myself am located somewhere on the spectrum... and as someone who is often incapable of interpreting signals in time to stop talking or change my wording, I can assure you that constantly having people annoyed with me or going through life without anyone ever really taking me seriously or treating me with the same kind of respect I see them treat others with is most definitely a form of suffering.

I'm willing to grant that most of that suffering is of my own doing for never having pursued any kind of diagnosis or help with navigating whatever it is I have, but at 49 years old I kinda feel like most of the damage is already done.

Personal sharing aside, I certainly didn't mean to insult anyone. I have a really weird relationship with this whole thing, as I often believe I know what I'm talking about from my own experience, but I still talk about like I'm an outsider... because one of the things that really terrifies me is that I one day decide to seek some sort of diagnosis/help only to discover that whatever's wrong with me has nothing at all to do with autism - and the reason I'm alone is literally because I'm just an a**hole.

Thanks for sharing this.

I will say,regardless of the outcome, the best thing you can do for yourself is to take the leap to broaden your understanding of yourself, and look forward (not behind), in being the best version of yourself.


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[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

It's been suggested by many people that I myself am located somewhere on the spectrum... and as someone who is often incapable of interpreting signals in time to stop talking or change my wording, I can assure you that constantly having people annoyed with me or going through life without anyone ever really taking me seriously or treating me with the same kind of respect I see them treat others with is most definitely a form of suffering.

I'm willing to grant that most of that suffering is of my own doing for never having pursued any kind of diagnosis or help with navigating whatever it is I have, but at 49 years old I kinda feel like most of the damage is already done.

Personal sharing aside, I certainly didn't mean to insult anyone. I have a really weird relationship with this whole thing, as I often believe I know what I'm talking about from my own experience, but I still talk about like I'm an outsider... because one of the things that really terrifies me is that I one day decide to seek some sort of diagnosis/help only to discover that whatever's wrong with me has nothing at all to do with autism - and the reason I'm alone is literally because I'm just an a**hole.

I hope it's clear that I didn't intend to be critical, but just wanted to share some of the perspective I've gained recently (and I admittedly still know very little), and certainly not to diminish the very real suffering autistic people experience for having the audacity to exist in a world with so many inane expectations.

FWIW I wouldn't have any regret about not seeking a diagnosis earlier...the vast majority of past and sadly ongoing approaches to 'treatment' are ineffective and often counter-productive (albeit generally well intentioned). Gay conversion therapy may (or may not) be a slightly hyperbolic comparison, but a lot of it has been in the same vein of masking a person's inherent slef (which sounds beyond exhausting, and just sad). Thankfully things seem to be turning a bit of a corner, though.

[The Fonz]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

For “reasons” my comment was in jest but some guys created a video acting out the situation as Babcock and a player. I figured everyone would have seen it since the SC guys promoted it.

NSFW!

https://twitter.com/user/status/1702813509875028460

….you don’t get it?

[The Fonz]

Don’t ever grab another persons phone and demand (when your boss “asks”, that’s demanding) the password.

[The Fonz]

Jesus. If I ever grabbed my lifelong friends phones and said “hey, throw in your password and let me check out your pictures”, we would not be friends. That’s not normal.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

….you don’t get it?

Don’t get what?

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

I hope it's clear that I didn't intend to be critical, but just wanted to share some of the perspective I've gained recently (and I admittedly still know very little), and certainly not to diminish the very real suffering autistic people experience for having the audacity to exist in a world with so many inane expectations.

FWIW I wouldn't have any regret about not seeking a diagnosis earlier...the vast majority of past and sadly ongoing approaches to 'treatment' are ineffective and often counter-productive (albeit generally well intentioned). Gay conversion therapy may (or may not) be a slightly hyperbolic comparison, but a lot of it has been in the same vein of masking a person's inherent slef (which sounds beyond exhausting, and just sad). Thankfully things seem to be turning a bit of a corner, though.

nono, no worries. i wasn't offended in the slightest. i was just concerned that I was offending other people, so wanted to make it clear that it wasn't what I was trying to do.

[MonsieurFish]

Babcock expected to resign

https://twitter.com/friedgehnic/stat...sEURE6ZN2fwanQ

[dammage79]

Buh bye now. Numpty. Babcock is an idiot. And good riddance from hockey.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by KelVarnsen

Saying someone suffers from ASD is honestly kind of insulting.

And Babcock is an #######.

Is it though? If they actually are on the spectrum

And yes. Yes he is.

[Firebot]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

For “reasons” my comment was in jest but some guys created a video acting out the situation as Babcock and a player. I figured everyone would have seen it since the SC guys promoted it.

NSFW!

https://twitter.com/user/status/1702813509875028460

See that's why we need a link.

Because this was the one I found

https://twitter.com/user/status/1701740015783383353

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Is it though? If they actually are on the spectrum

Yes. Would it be right to say that someone suffers from being black? Or suffers from being gay?

You can kinda stretch it to make that phrasing work, but it's more accurate to say they suffer from other people being #######s...

[Jay Random]

Not being able to process social cues isn't just a matter of other people being #######s. It's a legitimate disability, and yes, people do suffer on account of having it.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Yes. Would it be right to say that someone suffers from being black? Or suffers from being gay?

You can kinda stretch it to make that phrasing work, but it's more accurate to say they suffer from other people being #######s...

Sure, yeah. You'd bang on about the only real suffering in any predisposition or objective quality being how other people treat it/you, which unfortunately in many cases is poorly due to prejudice or warped perceptions (and often even if they openly claim otherwise).

But I found the original comment framed strangely...

If you have a diagnosed condition, physical or mental, why would you want people to see the condition itself as an insult? If it's a part of who someone is and they can't help that, shouldn't we not attach a negative connotation to that predisposition ("insult")?

This is the problem if it's how some people perceive these things. Differences don't need to be inherently negative. Because people in that position don't want to be treated differently, as less capable, or lesser than, or like what makes them different is a negative thing. They would just like people to get the #### over it like they have, and for who they are to be the only basis/criteria needed socially and professionally.

At least that's my take as someone that has a minor physical difference that is subject to people's interpretation/judgment every day.

[KelVarnsen]

Ok I’ll reword it.

As an autistic person. It’s insulting to blame autism for Babcock being a POS.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Actually I re-read the first comment. "suffers" was the keyword that somehow evaded me..

Yeah. Absolutely. I agree.

We were on the same page without realizing it. And Babcock's entirely conscious penchant for d-baggery is to blame here.