05-19-2023, 06:42 PM
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#341
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
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Bergevin? Barf! Nonis? Double Barf!! Bowman? Triple Barf!!!
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05-19-2023, 07:14 PM
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#342
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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I had faith with the chatter about them casting a "wide net"
I take that back. Fuuck these options.
We are apparently the worst evaluators of outside talent.
These guys aren't hot commodities. They're has-beens desperately looking for a way back in.
It's now Conroy or bust.
Last edited by TrentCrimmIndependent; 05-19-2023 at 07:17 PM.
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05-19-2023, 07:24 PM
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#343
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Again, let's not take Frank's word as gospel as to this being the exhaustive list or serious contenders.
Or, that the Flames would seriously hire any of those 3. It's about gathering info, feeling out candidates. Why not get as much input and see some totally different points of view from candidates, even if it's Conroy's position.
Hopefully we don't hire another GM for 10 years so go through the process properly and thoroughly, with different candidates that have different ways of building, and that's what they are doing.
Certainly some Burke influence here it seems for Nonis. Bergevin is well liked around the league. Bowman was successful.
No problem in picking the brains of experienced GMs to see what's out there and ideas for the organization ahead.
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05-19-2023, 07:24 PM
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#344
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Hunter worked in a similar scenario I can't see him giving much power away to Conroy.
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Maybe 1B was a bit much, but I hope if they like Conroy as much as they seemingly do, that they see what they can keep him around for and if it's a monetary compensation aspect, they can come to a good agreement that even as an Assistant GM he's paid more.
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05-19-2023, 07:27 PM
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#345
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First Line Centre
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I’m going to guess the Dubas drama may have thrown a wrench in some of these “late stage” talks.
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05-19-2023, 07:58 PM
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#346
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: CGY
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That list is provided by the wordt gossiper in the league, and no one holds him to account. Grain of salt with that list
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05-19-2023, 08:08 PM
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#347
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurs
Conroy remains a fine, but very unexciting hire. It is hard to imagine that his hiring results in great things for the Flames.
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How will we know this if he never gets a chance?
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05-19-2023, 08:21 PM
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#348
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja
How will we know this if he never gets a chance?
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We won’t which is why I said it is a fine hire not a bad hire, but there is nothing about Contiy that gets me excited or think things will improve. But that is in large part because we don’t know what his opinions were on how things operated under Tre, but he was a part of a management group that wasn’t successful Or particularly impressive in their roster moves or team building.
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05-19-2023, 08:34 PM
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#349
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cole436
I’m going to guess the Dubas drama may have thrown a wrench in some of these “late stage” talks.
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I don't. If it's true Calgary isn't a preferred destination, and there are plenty of suitors out there, the Flames shouldn't be holding up their decision for him. He's likely to leverage their offer for a better one. Better off moving on without him at risk their own preferred candidate may get poached elsewhere.
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05-19-2023, 08:45 PM
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#350
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Franchise Player
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I would think the GM job in Toronto is much more appealing to most GM candidates than the GM job in Calgary.
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05-19-2023, 09:57 PM
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#351
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Reppin' the C in BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bluejays
I don't. If it's true Calgary isn't a preferred destination, and there are plenty of suitors out there, the Flames shouldn't be holding up their decision for him. He's likely to leverage their offer for a better one. Better off moving on without him at risk their own preferred candidate may get poached elsewhere.
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If the rumoured list is true, there is little danger of that happening.
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05-19-2023, 10:19 PM
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#352
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Franchise Player
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I think Conroy is the hire here.
Dubas? I think he’s a step below Treliving, so I certainly wouldn’t look at him coming aboard (if he somehow chose here) as any sort of tangible improvement. Dubas had less success than Treliving all while having the benefit of having a #1 overall pick, a more desirable market, and a much better funded operation.
Treliving > Dubas.
All the other rumoured named (Bergevin, Bowman, Nonis) get a whopper sized woof from me. No interest. Actively hope it’s none of those three.
Conroy may or may not be fantastic, but the Flames as a whole have been getting better over the last decade. We’ve gone from an incompetent organization, to a competent one that suffers from misdirection from the top. That’s improvement - and Connie is a part of that. I’d be happy to see him continue to build it here. Also, I’d love to see a Conroy and Iginla led Calgary Flames one day - and this completes 50% of that. So, let’s #%^*ing go Connie!
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05-19-2023, 10:39 PM
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#353
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GOAT!
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All I know is we know have to compete with the Leafs for whomever we're looking at (unless it's Conroy, maybe).
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05-19-2023, 10:46 PM
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#354
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by browna
Again, let's not take Frank's word as gospel as to this being the exhaustive list or serious contenders.
Or, that the Flames would seriously hire any of those 3. It's about gathering info, feeling out candidates. Why not get as much input and see some totally different points of view from candidates, even if it's Conroy's position.
Hopefully we don't hire another GM for 10 years so go through the process properly and thoroughly, with different candidates that have different ways of building, and that's what they are doing.
Certainly some Burke influence here it seems for Nonis. Bergevin is well liked around the league. Bowman was successful.
No problem in picking the brains of experienced GMs to see what's out there and ideas for the organization ahead.
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I can’t think of any good reason to seriously consider Nonis or Bowman. Nor to even interview them.
If the goal is to get opinions on your club, there is no shortage of hockey people to speak with. Christ did they interview Jay Feaster too?
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05-19-2023, 10:57 PM
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#355
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Originally Posted by calculoso
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Oh wait Dubas is available?
Of course we'd let our GM under contract interview while under contract. Come on Toronto, do the same!
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05-19-2023, 11:03 PM
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#356
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
I can’t think of any good reason to seriously consider Nonis or Bowman. Nor to even interview them.
If the goal is to get opinions on your club, there is no shortage of hockey people to speak with. Christ did they interview Jay Feaster too?
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I hope that this list of underwhelming candidates just means that Conroy is the guy.
I have a feeling that Conroy was the top guy at the start, but ownership probably told them to talk to a wide range of candidates, and if Conroy was still their guy at the end, then hire him. If this is the list, then I think (hope) Conroy is still the guy.
I know some people think it's just to convenient that the best candidate would just happen to already be here, but i honestly think he deserves a chance. He was heavily leaned on by Treliving to get guys to sign, conduct scouting and player evaluations, and he was progressive enough to bring Danielle Fujita into the coaching staff. The players apparently love him, the fans love him, and he loves Calgary. I really think he is the guy.
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05-19-2023, 11:05 PM
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#357
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Flames will hire the person with the lowest salary request.
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05-19-2023, 11:25 PM
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#358
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GOAT!
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I'll take the job for $1 plus team-based performance bonuses.
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05-19-2023, 11:29 PM
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#359
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Quote:
Originally Posted by browna
Again, let's not take Frank's word as gospel as to this being the exhaustive list or serious contenders.
Or, that the Flames would seriously hire any of those 3. It's about gathering info, feeling out candidates. Why not get as much input and see some totally different points of view from candidates, even if it's Conroy's position.
Hopefully we don't hire another GM for 10 years so go through the process properly and thoroughly, with different candidates that have different ways of building, and that's what they are doing.
Certainly some Burke influence here it seems for Nonis. Bergevin is well liked around the league. Bowman was successful.
No problem in picking the brains of experienced GMs to see what's out there and ideas for the organization ahead.
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A lot of what frank has claimed sounds made up.
Like a terrible fanfic by an Oilers fan.
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05-19-2023, 11:33 PM
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#360
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
I would think the GM job in Toronto is much more appealing to most GM candidates than the GM job in Calgary.
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I wonder how appealing the Calgary job is to any of the top tier GM candidates out there. The job seems like a nightmare right now.
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