Enough is enough - Bring up Wolf.

[InternationalVillager]

This management’s decision making is mind blowing.

[timbit]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

This management’s decision making is mind blowing.

Being serious…could you elaborate and be specific?

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

If he's one of the top 2 or 3 defensive players on the team, and in the upper echelon in the league like he has been, 70 is acceptable to me

A lot of stars have played below a PPG under Sutter, while the teams went on to do great things

70 points, plus the strong prevent play, translates to much more than a 100 point player in a porous offense-first system

I think that needs to be acknowledged.

... and on the 4th day, Sutter remade Huby, and he was the only one that saw that it was good.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

If he's one of the top 2 or 3 defensive players on the team, and in the upper echelon in the league like he has been, 70 is acceptable to me

A lot of stars have played below a PPG under Sutter, while the teams went on to do great things

70 points, plus the strong prevent play, translates to much more than a 100 point player in a porous offense-first system

I think that needs to be acknowledged.

I actually think Huberdeau correctly identified the issues a week or so ago. He's getting stuck in offensive positions where he and his linemates have created no good choices. Of all the Flames having down seasons I see him as most likely to rebound if he gets chemistry. Reminder: Lindholm took years to develop as a centre because of incompatibility.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Call him up you wusses!

[SuperMatt18]

The last time the Flames had a save percentage worse than the .887 we are at for this season was 30 years ago - when they had a 886 in 92-93 with Vernon and Reece in net.

The goaltending is atrocious and they should call up Wolf.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Flames will never win a cup until they're willing to take gambles like this

Binnington, Murray... You literally have evidence in just the last handful of seasons that these types of moves can pay off

[DeluxeMoustache]

The Flames got their asses kicked tonight

No goalie wins them this game

[Young Guns]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Not much to choose amongst our red hot goalies now.

Vladar. 2.90 GAA .894 S%
Markstrom: 2.93 GAA .889 S%

Who’s the emergency goalie? I’d prefer him

[InternationalVillager]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

The Flames got their asses kicked tonight

No goalie wins them this game

Lol whatever man. Kinda hard to beat the Avs when you spot them 2 goals on first 2 shots.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

Lol whatever man. Kinda hard to beat the Avs when you spot them 2 goals on first 2 shots.

You are right, it is a great idea to turn the puck over to Mackinnon and let him walk in all alone for the first shot and leave it to your goalie. He isn’t that dangerous, right?

It’s not the goalie, it’s the shots. Wolf doesn’t change those chances

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Young Guns

Who’s the emergency goalie? I’d prefer him

We just need the best goalie not in the NHL to come be our zamboni driver and marky/vladar to be knocked out with violent diarrhea every night the rest of the way

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

You are right, it is a great idea to turn the puck over to Mackinnon and let him walk in all alone for the first shot and leave it to your goalie. He isn’t that dangerous, right?

It’s not the goalie, it’s the shots. Wolf doesn’t change those chances

The goalies have lost the room. That’s what Wolf could change.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

You are right, it is a great idea to turn the puck over to Mackinnon and let him walk in all alone for the first shot and leave it to your goalie. He isn’t that dangerous, right?

It’s not the goalie, it’s the shots. Wolf doesn’t change those chances

Still a saveable goal IMO.

Nice placement between the glove and blocker but Markstrom left way too much room short side on that play IMO.

And honestly don't think that one is his fault but I still think the second one was trash and much worse. And the issue isnt letting on one of them, it's letting in both.

If he let's in that Mackinnon goal, then shuts the door the rest of the period, then people would have more benefit of doubt for him. But that hasn't been the case all year, he lets a couple of not soft but savable ones in leading to the same debates.

To me the chances look tougher because he's not reading the play well, getting square to the shooters, and getting into positions to make himself bigger in the net.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

There are only so many consecutive games you can manipulate yourself and others into thinking that night's .820 performance was not a part of the problem

When you end the year 30 unsaved goals below league average, and see that there were 40-45 better goalies statistically than your two guys, you'll just be left with the truth that that gap between you and the mean was the difference between 9th and a divisional berth

[united]

I don't understand why they don't give Wolf a chance. Treliving evidently finally came to terms with the fact he doesn't have the ability to build a sustainable contender and decided to push all-in and go for it in a desperate attempt to win, largely mortgaging the future in both draft capital and cap commitment in doing so. Why is the team then screwing around worrying about development? Goaltending has been an unabated disaster this season (nobody could have predicted a career league-average goaltender would decline in his mid-30s) so why not try one of the best prospects in the World in the position and see what you have? Quit ####ing around and go for the Bag.

As wild as it sounds, even if Wolf completely drowns in the NHL he wouldn't be worse than what the team is experiencing this season so give it a shot! Worry about multi-millionaires' hurt feelings later. Kid was a wonderful draft pick and has toyed with shooters in both the WHL and AHL since. Get him into the big squad with a bit of runway and see what happens. Let's go.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

The goalies have lost the room. That’s what Wolf could change.

Quoted for truth, they would never admit it but they don't trust either goalie, it's on their face and in their play.

[madmike]

We’ll likely see Wolf in another 3-4 games once the season is over.

[1qqaaz]

Is there and NHLe for save percentage? If there was, there's no way Wolf would be anywhere near as low Markstrom/Vladar, even accounting for the transition from the NHL to the AHL.

This stat would likely be even less reliable than the NHLe, but it could at least be a factor in decision-making.

The Flames have the 6th best expected goals against in the league. Their defensive metrics are actually great across the board. The Flames have the 9th lowest high danger shots against. This is a team in which a decent goalie can perform. They would not be hanging Wolf out to dry.

I don't know why people are saying that playing Wolf would ruin his confidence. I disagree with the importance of the premise in the first place. But even if that mattered, there are overwhelming reasons to believe that Wolf would actually succeed in the NHL while heavily outperforming Vladar and especially Markstrom.

[Goriders]

The Flames are realistically going to be out of it at the trade deadline. That will leave 20 games where hopefully we’ll get to see guys like Wolf and Zary. You might as well start the 2023 training camp on March 4th. Then figure out who’s in the long term plan in the summer.

That includes Sutter and Treliving.