To Calgary | By Johnny Gaudreau

[Calgary Highlander]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Tkachuk handled it better but his attitude towards the decision is more insulting.

How so?

[Gemnoble]

I wonder how much Johnny falls off now that he has his retirement deal sorted.

[Johnny Makarov]

How many points would Goodrow have next year if he stayed with the Flames? 125? 140?

The Flames were never going to win a cup with 13 and 19. They would have won a cup with 13 and whoever they got for 19.

[Moneyhands23]

Johnny's a dink

[Jaydee]

#### john , basically gave us the middle finger on the way out. compare that with Tkachuk who has class

[Sec214]

Johnny better be booed every ####ing time he touches the puck.

[Classic_Sniper]

This isn’t even a fair comparison, Johnny was a UFA and Matthew was an RFA, we were always going to get a good return for Tkachuk and as it has been reported, Johnny and Tre almost had a deal done last summer.

Even if Johnny said he wasn’t re-signing last offseason, he was a 1 year rental and wouldn’t have garnered anything close to what an 8 year, signed Matthew Tkachuk would’ve received. Two completely different situations.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

This isn’t even a fair comparison, Johnny was a UFA and Matthew was an RFA, we were always going to get a good return for Tkachuk and as it has been reported, Johnny and Tre almost had a deal done last summer.

Even if Johnny said he wasn’t re-signing last offseason, he was a 1 year rental and wouldn’t have garnered anything close to what an 8 year, signed Matthew Tkachuk would’ve received. Two completely different situations.

Nope he is a dink

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

This isn’t even a fair comparison, Johnny was a UFA and Matthew was an RFA, we were always going to get a good return for Tkachuk and as it has been reported, Johnny and Tre almost had a deal done last summer.

Even if Johnny said he wasn’t re-signing last offseason, he was a 1 year rental and wouldn’t have garnered anything close to what an 8 year, signed Matthew Tkachuk would’ve received. Two completely different situations.

A sign-&-trade with Philly could have got us something this summer.

[Sainters7]

Just sticking this here. Apologies if already posted, the FOI forum moving at lightspeed the past week...I can't keep up!
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[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

This isn’t even a fair comparison, Johnny was a UFA and Matthew was an RFA, we were always going to get a good return for Tkachuk and as it has been reported, Johnny and Tre almost had a deal done last summer.

Even if Johnny said he wasn’t re-signing last offseason, he was a 1 year rental and wouldn’t have garnered anything close to what an 8 year, signed Matthew Tkachuk would’ve received. Two completely different situations.

Yeah but Gaudreau drug them past the draft and free agency. Tkachuk trades could have looked a lot different on the draft floor and probably would have been titled towards youth.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

A sign-&-trade with Philly could have got us something this summer.

Sign and trades with pending UFAs are so rare it doesn’t make sense. If I’m a GM, no chance I pay anything significant for the rights to negotiate with a player, I’d rather just a few weeks. At best, Johnny may have returned us a 3rd or 4th and as it turned out, Philly was never signing Johnny; they didn’t have the cap space.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

Sign and trades with pending UFAs are so rare it doesn’t make sense. If I’m a GM, no chance I pay anything significant for the rights to negotiate with a player, I’d rather just a few weeks. At best, Johnny may have returned us a 3rd or 4th and as it turned out, Philly was never signing Johnny; they didn’t have the cap space.

Philly could have sent salary the other way to make room for Johnny.

Only the Flames could give Johnny the 8th year to bring the AAV down. Besides, Johnny was (speculating here, but it seems reasonable) probably willing to take a home town discount to sign long term with the Flyers.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Yeah but Gaudreau drug them past the draft and free agency. Tkachuk trades could have looked a lot different on the draft floor and probably would have been titled towards youth.

Possibly, but Florida still probably would’ve knocked Treliving’s socks off in the end anyway. An all futures trade probably wasn’t going to interest this organization that much.

Based on what Gaudreau said, I believe him when he says he wanted to come back and he hadn’t made up his mind yet. That’s the reality with pending UFAs, that’s why you always re-sign them the year prior. Shield yourself from the potential risks.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Philly could have sent salary the other way to make room for Johnny.

Only the Flames could give Johnny the 8th year to bring the AAV down. Besides, Johnny was (speculating here, but it seems reasonable) probably willing to take a home town discount to sign long term with the Flyers.

Except PHI didn’t make any effort whatsoever to get the player for free.


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[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Except PHI didn’t make any effort whatsoever to get the player for free.


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Because they didn't have cap room.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Philly could have sent salary the other way to make room for Johnny.

Only the Flames could give Johnny the 8th year to bring the AAV down. Besides, Johnny was (speculating here, but it seems reasonable) probably willing to take a home town discount to sign long term with the Flyers.

I think this would have been such an improbable scenario, we would’ve also needed to take back their cap dumps on a team that’s still trying to win. A players’ rights historically speaking aren’t worth much and it’s hardly worth anyone’s time debating it.

Now trading Johnny last year might’ve gotten us something. But then you take away the fun of last season and the game 7 OT winner and etc.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by RobotTalk

The guy has a comms degree from Boston College, a pretty decent school, I'm sure he's more than capable of writing that letter.

Folks, including me, are chapped he left in the way he did but let's not pretend that someone with a university degree can't write.

For people saying it's a PR puff piece, what benefit does he get from putting that out unless he has a genuine desire to get his version out there? To avoid getting booed once per season? That doesn't really make very much sense to me - if he really didn't care about the city or the team he could have just faded away, but he did opt to write something.

His career is maybe 25% done.

This was written to try and salvage his reputation.

Everyone wants to talk about UFAs have rights, how ruthless the business side of the game is, etc, etc.

But this is a team sport, where the team that wins has players that buy in to a system, want to win and are willing to sacrifice in order to win.

Johnny showed the entire hockey world that all those things don't come first.

Which is his right, but this is the NHL. Players get to this level because they want to win, not because they want a cushy gig closer to their home town. The entire league is full of players who have sacrificed not being 'home' for many years in order to get to the show. Of course they are compensated well for their efforts as a result.

But don't for a second think that this stupid PR bull#### isn't just Johnny trying to do damage control so that 2 years from now when he starts whining and wants out, a team will actually want to take him.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

I think this would have been such an improbable scenario, we would’ve also needed to take back their cap dumps on a team that’s still trying to win.

Johnny to Philly on a 9x8 contract, Koneckny and 50% JVR to the Flames.

[manwiches]

Originally Posted by Sainters7

Just sticking this here. Apologies if already posted, the FOI forum moving at lightspeed the past week...I can't keep up!
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