Russia invades Ukraine

[peter12]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60504334

I got about 20 tabs open and different outlets are reporting Ukrainians fighting back best they can. Ukraine isn't rolling over, but Russia will eventually pound them which is sad.

We will know how things stand in the next 24 hours or so, but generally, the overall predictions by defence analysts have borne out pretty accurately. The Russians have used their artillery, cruise missile, and air capabilities to smack anything left out in the open with Ukraine being pretty powerless to stop it.

It will be interesting to see how Ukrainian ground forces manage to stand, but without airpower or capable anti-air assets, I don't see how long that will last.

[curves2000]

Like him or not, Donald Trump was right about these global organizations like the UN. Totally useless!

I love how they are authorizing $20 million in aid to Ukraine! Not even peanuts or a piss in the ocean in the grand scheme of things.

I don't understand why the global community isn't thinking a little more out of the box with this? Just the Covid ramifications of millions huddled in very close quarters and than fleeing has the chance to be a nightmare. We have risk associated with the nuclear reactors like Chernobly and others still in operation that have the chance to be catastrophic for the global community.

The world has known about this plan for a very very long time, it was evident but it does seem that the Ukrainian army seems to be very very unprepared for this. I can understand that the Russian armed forces are a vastly stronger military power, but you would have thought that in advance the world would have been able to send significant military weapons and capabilities. Top tier stuff.

I would have thought that technical knowledge and assistance with the cyber attacks from Russia would have been a top point of assistance, this war is also being fought online as well.

I get the sanctions and all from a business point of view but let's get real here, this isn't affecting Putin one bit and factored into his calculation. I love how the global community also caved to the SWIFT banking system sanctions, that could have been a big one now. The man is considered by many to be the worlds wealthiest based upon his assets and his ability to get what he wants . He's played chess and the other side is playing checkers.

Disappointing all around when we could have clipped his wings quickly.

[tony-soprano]

Sounds like Kyiv is about to fall next and Ukraine won’t be getting any additional support aside from more sanctions.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by curves2000

Like him or not, Donald Trump was right about these global organizations like the UN. Totally useless!

I love how they are authorizing $20 million in aid to Ukraine! Not even peanuts or a piss in the ocean in the grand scheme of things.

I don't understand why the global community isn't thinking a little more out of the box with this? Just the Covid ramifications of millions huddled in very close quarters and than fleeing has the chance to be a nightmare. We have risk associated with the nuclear reactors like Chernobly and others still in operation that have the chance to be catastrophic for the global community.

The world has known about this plan for a very very long time, it was evident but it does seem that the Ukrainian army seems to be very very unprepared for this. I can understand that the Russian armed forces are a vastly stronger military power, but you would have thought that in advance the world would have been able to send significant military weapons and capabilities. Top tier stuff.

I would have thought that technical knowledge and assistance with the cyber attacks from Russia would have been a top point of assistance, this war is also being fought online as well.

I get the sanctions and all from a business point of view but let's get real here, this isn't affecting Putin one bit and factored into his calculation. I love how the global community also caved to the SWIFT banking system sanctions, that could have been a big one now. The man is considered by many to be the worlds wealthiest based upon his assets and his ability to get what he wants . He's played chess and the other side is playing checkers.

Disappointing all around when we could have clipped his wings quickly.

The UN is first and foremost a reliable channel for diplomatic talks/back channels to continue even when formal links have been severed. For that alone, it is incredibly valuable.

Donald Trump wasn't right about anything.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by curves2000

Like him or not, Donald Trump was right about these global organizations like the UN. Totally useless!

I love how they are authorizing $20 million in aid to Ukraine! Not even peanuts or a piss in the ocean in the grand scheme of things.

I don't understand why the global community isn't thinking a little more out of the box with this? Just the Covid ramifications of millions huddled in very close quarters and than fleeing has the chance to be a nightmare. We have risk associated with the nuclear reactors like Chernobly and others still in operation that have the chance to be catastrophic for the global community.

The world has known about this plan for a very very long time, it was evident but it does seem that the Ukrainian army seems to be very very unprepared for this. I can understand that the Russian armed forces are a vastly stronger military power, but you would have thought that in advance the world would have been able to send significant military weapons and capabilities. Top tier stuff.

I would have thought that technical knowledge and assistance with the cyber attacks from Russia would have been a top point of assistance, this war is also being fought online as well.

I get the sanctions and all from a business point of view but let's get real here, this isn't affecting Putin one bit and factored into his calculation. I love how the global community also caved to the SWIFT banking system sanctions, that could have been a big one now. The man is considered by many to be the worlds wealthiest based upon his assets and his ability to get what he wants . He's played chess and the other side is playing checkers.

Disappointing all around when we could have clipped his wings quickly.

LOL

How do you feel about Trump's comments about, and support for, Putin this week?

[Yoho]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1496923431371100160

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Yoho

https://twitter.com/user/status/1496923431371100160

This is more Russian propaganda. The Americans' hands are pretty tied here with the Russian nuclear threat.

[CroFlames]

Does anyone know if the Calgary Ukrainian community is staging a demonstration in support?

[SebC]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

I think (or hope) China’s leaders recognize that the U.S. has much more at stake in ensuring Taiwan’s independence than Ukraine’s.

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Taiwan is the 22nd largest economy in the world, Ukraine is 57th.

Ukraine is still the largest, and 6th most populous, country that is entirely in Europe. So it's not nothing either.

Ukraine doesn't produce microchips for the US military.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by curves2000

Like him or not, Donald Trump was right about these global organizations like the UN. Totally useless!

I love how they are authorizing $20 million in aid to Ukraine! Not even peanuts or a piss in the ocean in the grand scheme of things.

I don't understand why the global community isn't thinking a little more out of the box with this? Just the Covid ramifications of millions huddled in very close quarters and than fleeing has the chance to be a nightmare. We have risk associated with the nuclear reactors like Chernobly and others still in operation that have the chance to be catastrophic for the global community.

The world has known about this plan for a very very long time, it was evident but it does seem that the Ukrainian army seems to be very very unprepared for this. I can understand that the Russian armed forces are a vastly stronger military power, but you would have thought that in advance the world would have been able to send significant military weapons and capabilities. Top tier stuff.

I would have thought that technical knowledge and assistance with the cyber attacks from Russia would have been a top point of assistance, this war is also being fought online as well.

I get the sanctions and all from a business point of view but let's get real here, this isn't affecting Putin one bit and factored into his calculation. I love how the global community also caved to the SWIFT banking system sanctions, that could have been a big one now. The man is considered by many to be the worlds wealthiest based upon his assets and his ability to get what he wants . He's played chess and the other side is playing checkers.

Disappointing all around when we could have clipped his wings quickly.

What an incredibly stupid post.

[FlameOn]

Ukraine needs to just be a wake up call. A wider European war might be difficult to avoid going forward it would be shortsighted if it did not prepare for the possibility of a wider conflict after Ukraine. Troops need to be put in place now in Europe to counter this especially in the Finland/Baltics.

Biden made these remarks today, and he did have accurate Russian invasion plans pinpointed down to the week. NATO blood will probably be spilled before all this is over, just do you choose to do it supporting Ukraine, or later?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1496923423011975183

[_Q_]

Originally Posted by peter12

This is more Russian propaganda. The Americans' hands are pretty tied here with the Russian nuclear threat.

I mean yes, I agree. Obviously the US won't threaten a nuclear war over Ukraine.

Is this tweet wrong though? The Americans talk a big game, but when push comes to stove, won't do much to defend their weaker allies.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by _Q_

I mean yes, I agree. Obviously the US won't threaten a nuclear war over Ukraine.

Is this tweet wrong though? The Americans talk a big game, but when push comes to stove, won't do much to defend their weaker allies.

What “big game” are you talking about? When have they ever boasted about protecting other countries? They are a self serving power.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by _Q_

I mean yes, I agree. Obviously the US won't threaten a nuclear war over Ukraine.

Is this tweet wrong though? The Americans talk a big game, but when push comes to stove, won't do much to defend their weaker allies.

They were in Afghanistan 20 years, is that not defending?

[curves2000]

Originally Posted by peter12

The UN is first and foremost a reliable channel for diplomatic talks/back channels to continue even when formal links have been severed. For that alone, it is incredibly valuable.

Donald Trump wasn't right about anything.

I think I am referring to some of these diplomatic talks that really isn't happening here. This was a goal and this was premediated from the beginning for Putin. This was going to occur regardless of what some guy's in suits in NY thought about the matter. Clearly Putin is on the action level side of the ledger and the rest of the world is on the talk side of the ledger.

If we are all being serious, this could have been avoided very quickly. What is the $20 million from the UN going to do for the people of Ukraine today? That is less than 50 cents a person for a modern day, European country who is currently under a significant invasion from a nuclear threat.

[peter12]

To go back to oil and gas talk and Canadian interests, this absolutely should be included in this discussion as it is one of the few strategic levers that Canada can claim to hold.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by FlameOn

Ukraine needs to just be a wake up call. A wider European war might be difficult to avoid going forward it would be shortsighted if it did not prepare for the possibility of a wider conflict after Ukraine. Troops need to be put in place now in Europe to counter this especially in the Finland/Baltics.

Biden made these remarks today, and he did have accurate Russian invasion plans pinpointed down to the week. NATO blood will probably be spilled before all this is over, just do you choose to do it supporting Ukraine, or later?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1496923423011975183

I hope this is a wake up call for the West. We continue to do business with Russia and China, two nations with horrendous Human Rights records.

It would be nice to see the West wean ourselves off these type of countries.

[Huntingwhale]

Things getting more tense. My wife is hearing gunshots from a distance in her village. Yelling outside. Some ground troops have been spotted. The bridge to Kharkov from their village has been destroyed. Her and her family are sleeping in their jackets with their bags beside them just in case. #### this stupid bull####.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

They were in Afghanistan 20 years, is that not defending?

No that is occupying

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Yoho

https://twitter.com/user/status/1496923431371100160

Can you at least say who these people are your tweeting? Would save me from having to click on the profile and seeing if its someone from a loonie tunes 'media' company. Kudos to this guy to working for at 2 of them in his career though.