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Old 09-04-2021, 03:18 PM   #341
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Wow! First since Penner to switch teams.
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Old 09-04-2021, 03:19 PM   #342
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Who was the idiot the just over a week ago said offer sheets never work?
Oh yeah it was me
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Bergevin declines to take the bait from the Canes for a war of words.

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TSN's front page right now has the headline "Canadiens will not match Hurricane's offer for Koktaniemi", right below which it says "The Montreal Canadiens have matched the Carolina Hurricanes' offer sheet to Jesperi Kotkaniemi [...]"
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I mean, they only work if a team is willing to hand out a stupid contract. This is a stupid contract. Good for Kotkaniemi though, got him out of the usual RFA cycle early and there's about 6.1 million reasons he can be happy about that.
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Old 09-04-2021, 03:23 PM   #346
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I hope Kotkaniemi becomes a Hall of Famer now
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Old 09-04-2021, 03:24 PM   #347
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Well, we still don't have a lot of proof that they do "work."

One could make the argument that they do not, since the vast majority of them end up being matched anyways, and the matching teams have not really suffered much for signing the players. In the only instance in the cap-era before today that a team opted to not match one could also reasonably make the argument that this, too, did not work. The Oilers didn't get any better as a result of signing Dustin Penner, and the return that Anaheim received for letting him go turned out to be unspectacular.

Time will tell how this turns out, but I suspect that Kotkaniemi will not be worth his contract in Carolina, and that the picks Montreal receives in return will amount to nearly nothing in the end.
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I look forward to Habs fans being supportive and cheering KK on positively when the Hurricanes play the Canadiens in Montreal. A true hero's welcome.
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Who was the idiot the just over a week ago said offer sheets never work?
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That always needs to be followed by, "...unless you vastly overpay the player to get him."


Now, it will be interesting to see if they have a secret handshake deal to sign him to a long-term extension at a more-reasonable cap hit when he's eligible to sign in January or if this was truly just an expensive F-U to the Habs.
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... it will be interesting to see if they have a secret handshake deal to sign him to a long-term extension at a more-reasonable cap hit when he's eligible to sign in January or if this was truly just an expensive F-U to the Habs.
Why not both?
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Old 09-04-2021, 03:41 PM   #351
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I hope Kotkaniemi demands his signing bonus in giant cheque form a la Happy Gilmore.

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Lose lose deal

Canes are not getting their money worth

Canadiens lost a young player that they likely can’t get with those picks
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Why not both?
It was definitely an expensive F-U, but if they also have a gentlemen's agreement on a cheaper extension, it could actually be a good deal for the team too.

It could also be a framework for successful RFA offer sheets in the future. I know it has been suggested before --- agree to terms on a long-term deal, sign an overinflated one-year offer sheet, then sign the rest of the deal as an extension in January --- but no team/player has tried it yet.

If it happens here, and works, I think we'll start to see it happen more often -- until some team or player in the future reneges on the gentlemen's agreement and screws over the other side.
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I hope Kotkaniemi demands his signing bonus in giant cheque form a la Happy Gilmore.

Or an Instagram photo with Aho each eating a $10 Poutine.
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TSN's front page right now has the headline "Canadiens will not match Hurricane's offer for Koktaniemi", right below which it says "The Montreal Canadiens have matched the Carolina Hurricanes' offer sheet to Jesperi Kotkaniemi [...]"
The sooner you come to terms with TSN being garbage and not going there anymore the happier you will be.
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Lose lose deal

Canes are not getting their money worth

Canadiens lost a young player that they likely can’t get with those picks
Yup.

I guess we have to wait and see what happens in the year after this deal.

Realistically I never expected the Habs to match. They really couldnt, their Cap is a nightmare.
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Ha ha, Carolina's new Twitter bio: undisputed offer sheet champions
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This is the 14th successful offer sheet of 37 in league history. So they work a little under 40% of the time
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This is the 14th successful offer sheet of 37 in league history. So they work a little under 40% of the time
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This is the 14th successful offer sheet of 37 in league history. So they work a little under 40% of the time
It's only the second successful one of the 10 since the introduction of the salary cap.
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