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Old 04-12-2021, 02:40 PM   #341
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Phillips' production has faltered but his game hasn't.

He'll be fine. Time to give him a look.
I'm on board with this for two reasons.

Phillips won't make the Flames any better and thereby won't be jeopardizing the high pick.

It would be amusing to see how comically small he is in a real NHL lineup.
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Old 04-12-2021, 02:41 PM   #342
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So folks are assuming the Flames protect Tanev over Gio? Or that they want to ideally keep both?
I think it's safe to assume Tanev gets protected seeing Treliving just signed him and he was the teams most reliable defenseman this season.
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Old 04-12-2021, 02:43 PM   #343
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I think it's safe to assume Tanev gets protected seeing Treliving just signed him and he was the teams most reliable defenseman this season.
Unless the team is tanking no way you keep Gio over Tanev. I pray we don’t pay assets to keep one year of Gio just out of respect.
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Old 04-12-2021, 02:43 PM   #344
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Tanev is the best defensive D I've seen in a long long time. It's a rare asset.
And we are talking about 1 year of no Gio (and no $6.75M). He's going to either retire or sign somewhere for super cheap afterwards, maybe Calgary.
If the Flames were more solidly positioned to contend and Giordano was showing minimal regression then management would have some tough decisions. At this point the Flames aren't a playoff team, and Giordano is a minor liability at times. Give the Krak their choice of any number of bloated contracts on the roster and carry on.
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Old 04-12-2021, 02:45 PM   #345
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I'm on board with this for two reasons.

Phillips won't make the Flames any better and thereby won't be jeopardizing the high pick.

It would be amusing to see how comically small he is in a real NHL lineup.
Philips is not really any smaller than Kailer Yamamoto:

5'7" 155 lbs v. 5'8" 153 lbs.
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Old 04-12-2021, 02:46 PM   #346
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This is good return for Bennett.

Six picks in the first three rounds. We will have players come out of this and last year's drafts. (Imo, Kuznetsov & Zary)

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Old 04-12-2021, 02:46 PM   #347
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Old 04-12-2021, 02:47 PM   #348
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If the Flames were more solidly positioned to contend and Giordano was showing minimal regression then management would have some tough decisions. At this point the Flames aren't a playoff team, and Giordano is a minor liability at times. Give the Krak their choice of any number of bloated contracts on the roster and carry on.
You don't have to give them their choice. Just essentially make them choose between Gio or Kylington (or UFA Ryan I guess). None of those really hurt the team.

I agree with the notion that it's bad form to sign Tanev, with an NTC, and then expose him 1 year later.
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Old 04-12-2021, 02:48 PM   #349
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Sounds a lot like Frolik to me in terms of being a LH RW that plays a strong 200ft game but doesn't wow offensively
Boy, that sounds like a spot-on comparison. I imagine it will be something like that, which would be a major win if he pans out.
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Old 04-12-2021, 02:48 PM   #350
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I'm gonna miss him. But he lost all confidence around halfway into Gulutzan's tenure and never regained it. Hope he becomes that confident, creative player he was early on, once more.
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This is good return for Bennett.

Six picks in the first three rounds. We will have players come out of this and last year's drafts.
4 this year and 5 next.
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Old 04-12-2021, 02:50 PM   #352
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As long as he pans out better than our last prospect names Emil(e).
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I pray we don’t pay assets to keep one year of Gio just out of respect.
That's crossed my mind as well as it seems like something the Flames would do and it terrifies me.
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Old 04-12-2021, 02:52 PM   #354
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Exciting news ....guy appears to have a big upside and if he indeed has a high GAF meter he's welcome.
That'll hopefully rub off in a positive way in a locker room desperately needing it
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Old 04-12-2021, 02:54 PM   #355
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4 this year and 5 next.
Is this a '22 2nd?

Also only just realized Rittich 3rd is '22

Probably for the best. By most accounts a better draft that will be better scouted
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Old 04-12-2021, 02:54 PM   #356
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Who are the expected players being protected at this stage

Markstrom

Gaudreau
Monahan
Tkachuk
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Lindholm

Andersson
Hanifin
Gio/Tanev

So folks are assuming the Flames protect Tanev over Gio? Or that they want to ideally keep both?
Imagine a scenario where we trade away so many players for picks and prospects that we only have like three or four players we even HAVE to protect...

Wait, is that even allowed? Wouldn't we be forced to make at least one player available?
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Old 04-12-2021, 02:54 PM   #357
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Good luck, Sam.
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Old 04-12-2021, 02:55 PM   #358
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Is this a '22 2nd?
Yes. The 2nd round pick in this trade is 2022
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Old 04-12-2021, 02:58 PM   #359
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You don't have to give them their choice. Just essentially make them choose between Gio or Kylington (or UFA Ryan I guess). None of those really hurt the team.

I agree with the notion that it's bad form to sign Tanev, with an NTC, and then expose him 1 year later.
Tanev's not going to be exposed. If you were to have traded any of those three D today, I would venture to say Tanev would draw rhe greatest return, even with his term. Giordano has been a great Flame, but that ship is sailing at warp speed and Kylington may be something, or not....

Clearly the choices for Seattle will be limited, but if they were to select Giordano, or even Backlund, with their respective term, it doesn't derail anything special.
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Not sure what went wrong but he never seemed to be on the same track after being injured his draft year. Sucks he never panned out, always seemed like the missing piece to the Flames rebuild.
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