Super Bowl LV thread: Chiefs vs Buccaneers

[Scorch]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Gotta love radio

https://twitter.com/user/status/1358611559229124610

Savage

A fan really made it into the end zone before the Chiefs did

[Erick Estrada]

Everyone is talking about the Chiefs OL issues but IMO the Bucs secondary dominated. Usually when Mahomes rolls out of the pocket he's at his most dangerous but nearly every time he rolled out of the pocket he had no open receivers to throw to. They clearly decided to ensure Hill never got behind them and there wasn't a lot of adjustments made by Andy as it seems like the Chiefs felt like if they did their usual thing eventually they would get their big plays. That has worked for them in the past but Bowles had a great game plan and his secondary was very disciplined. Kelce got his yards but taking Hill out of the game totally flustered Mahomes.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

LOL back, only people who suck at it would call it a non sport. Not only is golf a sport it's one of the most competitive sports ever, you should pick on baseball where you can still win if you suck any given day.

It's a sport the way darts, curling and bowling are sports. It requires great skill, but is not as athletic as sports on the other end of the spectrum - ex. marathon running, boxing.

[Scorch]

Lol Mathieu trash talking Brady and Ends up looking like a fool

https://twitter.com/user/status/1358586009865306114

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by troutman

It's a sport the way darts, curling and bowling are sports. It requires great skill, but is not as athletic as sports on the other end of the spectrum - ex. marathon running, boxing.

You follow any golf lately? It's been changing massively in the last decade in terms of fitness needed to win.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Scorch

Lol Mathieu trash talking Brady and Ends up looking like a fool

https://twitter.com/user/status/1358586009865306114

That was awesome. I think this shows how the Chiefs were maybe a little overconfident that they were going to win by showing up and being the Chiefs. Andy is one of the best gameplanners in the history of the game but he was out coached in the biggest game of the sason.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Even ignoring the Chiefs OLine, what happened with Andy's son obviously had a big impact as well. Once the Chiefs didn't just race out to the lead and there actually needed to be coaching done is where the Bucs had a huge edge. Understandable that Andy's head wasn't in the game, and no surprise that he had a very poor game coaching. No adjustments to what the Bucs were doing and poor in game decision making, while the Bucs coaches kept pushing the right buttons. It was a domination on the coaching side.

The Chiefs also did very poorly in the scoring zone, got inside the 35 six times and ended up with three FGs, two turnover on downs and one INT. Normally you'd expect six trips inside the 35 to bring at least 21 points for the Chiefs. This was basically as big an ass kicking as the Seahawks laid on the Broncos, domination at the point of attack leaving a great offense helpless.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by jayswin

You follow any golf lately? It's been changing massively in the last decade in terms of fitness needed to win.

That's not a good argument in favour of golf being a sport. Nor is it a good argument in favour of tiger being the top athlete in his sport since he hasn't done much in the last 10 years.

Wasn't that long ago Angel Cabrerra was 50lbs over weight and smoking on his walk up to the 18th to win the Masters.

[CaptainCrunch]

There didn't seem to be a game adjustment for a quarterback that was clearly not 100%. As well.


Re the Mathieu trash talking and throwing his hands up and beaking at the officials, he clearly had his head up his butt. So did the Chief's defensive staff. They knew at a certain point that the refs were focusing on contact downfield and their DB's kept doing it. You have to adjust to what the officials are doing, its a huge part of game adjustments.


I can't talk enough about Tampa and their use of the Tampa 2 defense to take away the speed of KC's receivers down field. Also the deliberate targeting of the two tackles. That was probably one of the best coordinator performances that I've seen in a long time.


Also adding a guy like Tom Brady does give a team a large degree of confidence and maybe looseness that a guy like him can bring.



I mean, KC is clearly talented and is likely to be competing next year, but they have to take a hard look at their secondary, and maybe have a more adjustable offensive playbook.

[Erick Estrada]

Not sure the Chiefs will be in a position to add talent this offseason given their salary cap situation as they have a lot of guaranteed salary on the books for 2021 and will have to restructure/cut a few starters.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

That's not a good argument in favour of golf being a sport. Nor is it a good argument in favour of tiger being the top athlete in his sport since he hasn't done much in the last 10 years.

Wasn't that long ago Angel Cabrerra was 50lbs over weight and smoking on his walk up to the 18th to win the Masters.

A player won a tournament yesterday 19 under par. Doesn't seem like that course is much of a challenge to top golfers.

[Senator Clay Davis]

This is hilarious.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1358620162904248320

https://twitter.com/user/status/1358623084098551810

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

That's not a good argument in favour of golf being a sport. Nor is it a good argument in favour of tiger being the top athlete in his sport since he hasn't done much in the last 10 years.

Wasn't that long ago Angel Cabrerra was 50lbs over weight and smoking on his walk up to the 18th to win the Masters.

Well it was 2009, so over a decade ago.

Originally Posted by troutman

A player won a tournament yesterday 19 under par. Doesn't seem like that course is much of a challenge to top golfers.

Golf is a sport that looks easy when you see the pros play. But the truth is walking the course, yes even with someone carrying your clubs, and having that level of concentration and skill for 4 hours or so is a big deal. It's just that you see someone on TV who hits a 180 yard shot within 8 feet of the hold and think "that's easy". But the truth is, for most of us that 180 yards that was 2 shots for the pro can easily be 4-5 for the average guy.

And the other thing I'll say, is that if you (not you, but people in general), don't think it's a big deal, you should go play 4 really difficult rounds in a row like they do, walking, and see how your body feels. It's harder than you might expect! And that's without the stress and tension of a 6 foot putt that could be worth hundreds of thousands of dollars.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

LOL back, only people who suck at it would call it a non sport. Not only is golf a sport it's one of the most competitive sports ever, you should pick on baseball where you can still win if you suck any given day.

I don't think golf is a sport either, because I consider any activity where skill is considerably more important than athleticism to be good at it to be a game rather than a sport.

But I definitely do suck at golf, so you're right about that part.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Slava

Well it was 2009, so over a decade ago.

Correct. That's not that long ago.

[Senator Clay Davis]

You need a lot of skill to get to the highest level of any sport, even with great athleticism there's no guarantee. We've seen lots of freak athletes flame out in the big leagues. Golf requires more athleticism than ever now because overpowering the course is the best way to win. The days of the fat guy being a factor on tour are pretty much over.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Are we talking about the 99.9th percentile here? Is that what drives something being a sport or not? I don't think so. Obviously both skill and athleticism are important at the highest level, this is true of almost any activity. But whether I can step on a field and be competent at soccer and enjoy myself is primarily determined by physical fitness (or lack thereof), while in golf, that outcome is primarily determined by my skill (or... lack thereof).

[Sainters7]

As long as we all agree poker is not a sport, and has no business being aired on sports channels, I can live with the rest.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Sainters7

As long as we all agree poker is not a sport, and has no business being aired on sports channels, I can live with the rest.

Neither is fishing, darts, car review shows.

Sports channels show many things that aren't sports. Half of their content nowadays is talk shows. Those are not sports either.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I mean what's competent in golf for a weekend hacker? Downing a beer every three holes and hitting 50% GIR? Even baseball requires more skill than athleticism, many a fat man has been able to rake.