2021 NHL Draft

[868904]

Originally Posted by Jore

Stone, Ritchie, Nordstrom, and Nesterov will drive us to victory. The 15th overall pick is ours.

You really think that those guys are the difference between 1st overall and 15th overall?

If I'm tanking, I want Nesterov playing 30 mins and Ritchie playing 20 minutes.

I mean, cause they suck, right? That's your point?

[Niemo]

Call me an optimist, but depending on the return for Monahan / Gaudreau, I think we make the playoffs next year.


Gaudreau only because all the rumblings of him not wanting to resign scares me.



Win the lottery please! I want Beniers or Edvinsson!

[dammage79]

Flames could try for pride. But I think the results of this season speak for themselves. This group doesn't have what it takes. So we will have a high pick regardless. Take it, make the necessary changes and look.forward to next year.

Daryl doesn't have to want the tank, Tree may not either, it's already happening despite their efforts.

[Poe969]

I guess tanking means losing on purpose. The Flames are just genuinely bad.

[Niemo]

Shut down Markstrom, Tanev, Gio, Lindholm for the remainder of the season!
No more scrubs that we won't resign and don't need to showcase either....like Leivo, Nordstrom, Robinson.



Play Zagidulin (3 games) and Wolf (2 games) in net.


Play Mackey, Kylington, and Yelesin with Valimaki, Andersson, and 1 other on D.



Bring in Ruzicka, Phillips, Gawdin, Philp for the last 5 games.


Pelletier and Zary to the AHL (if possible...don't know the situation).

[albertGQ]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I thought the limits kicked in immediately. I rescind my comment, feel free to win the lotto this year flames!!

Some start in 2022 (max number of lottery wins)

Others start this year (only top two spots are eligible for the lottery and maximum number of spots you can move up is 10)

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by Niemo

Call me an optimist, but depending on the return for Monahan / Gaudreau, I think we make the playoffs next year.


Gaudreau only because all the rumblings of him not wanting to resign scares me.



Win the lottery please! I want Beniers or Edvinsson!

The Flames should be able to make it to playoffs next year. Ana, LA, and SJ are already out.

So its between Edm, Cgy, Seattle, and Van for the remaining two spots after Vegas.

That's good odds.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Niemo

Shut down Markstrom, Tanev, Gio, Lindholm for the remainder of the season!
No more scrubs that we won't resign and don't need to showcase either....like Leivo, Nordstrom, Robinson.



Play Zagidulin (3 games) and Wolf (2 games) in net.


Play Mackey, Kylington, and Yelesin with Valimaki, Andersson, and 1 other on D.



Bring in Ruzicka, Phillips, Gawdin, Philp for the last 5 games.


Pelletier and Zary to the AHL (if possible...don't know the situation).

The AHL was done two weeks ago

[Sandman]

When trying to pick out players in the tournament who impressed, it's hard to look past the 3 young stars of the tourney: Michkov, Bedard, and Wright. Since those 3 aren't yet eligible for this years draft, here are my thoughts on the first round.

I think the first 8 picks will be the players we're expecting (in no particular order): Power, Beniers, Johnson, Guenther, Edvinsson, Clark, Hughes, and Eklund. If we're picking top 8 (and we likely will be), any of these players would be great. I, personally would like to grab of Beniers, Johnson, or Guenther, as I think their offense is underrated. If we go for a D-man, I would it to be Clarke (controversial, I know.)

After that there will be a tier of players that includes Wallstedt, Sillinger, Lambos, McTavish, Lysell, Lucius, Raty, and in my opinion - Pastujov and Pinelli. Wallstedt could go anywhere in the first round, so my next pick at 9 would be Sillinger, for sure. I would go with Pinelli next, then Lucius, the Pastojov.

McTavish (F) - A bit of a lumbering skater, more quick than fast, he's a very good passer for a guy know for being a goal scorer. He's big and sturdy, but not the most physical - however, when he does throw a hit, the other guy goes down. Great shooter, goes to the net, protects the puck well.

Lysell (F) - Fantastic skater and stickhandler, good transitional layer - likes to lead the rush. Hard to hit, great release, but on the small side.

Pinelli (F) - One of the favorites, he has it all - competitive, physical, good 2-way player, good skater, good IQ and vision, works hard, fights for pucks. Listed on the roster as being 6'1". In his D minus 1 year, he had 41 pts in 59 games. If the OHL was playing this year, his stats would be eye-popping.

Pastujov (F) - His stats in the tourney would be even better, if he had more to work with. He's got similar attributes to Pinelli, except he has a slight hitch in his skating, and is 6'0".

Chibrikov (F) - I think the only reason he's not rated higher is the Russian factor. I like him better than Lysell. Chibrikov competes harder in corners and along the wall. Pegged to go later in the first/early 2nd.

Ceulemans (D) - Like I said, this tournament opened my eyes on him. I don't usually like Junior A players, but he showed he's in the same class as any D in this draft. I still think Lambos goes before him, though. Big, quick D, that loves to carry the puck, good in transition, great gap control with fantastic backwards skating.

Second round thoughts:

Samu Tuomaala (LW) - Tournament all-star. Small, fast, good vision, highly skilled.

Fyodor Suechkov (C) - Reminds me of Taratukhin, as his defensive play is his bread and butter. His 10 points shows that he's good in the offensive end, too. Love this player, gets his nose dirty fighting for pucks in the trenches, and blocking shots. Great overall hockey sense.

Aleksi Heimosalmi (D) - Named one of the tournament all-stars on D. Very smooth skater and stickhandler, sees the ice well. Uses his stick to separate players from pucks, as he's not overly big or physical.

Olen Zellwger (D) - May drop to the third round, as he's only 5'9". Despite his size, he plays fearless, as he's not afraid to battle for pucks, or throw the odd hit. Good skater, great IQ, good shot.

Chase Stillman (RW) - Another one of my favorites, I pray he's available at our 2nd pick. Listed at 6'1", he's a great skater with a high IA, and likes to get his nose dirty with his physical play. Works hard, fights for pucks, and has terrific two-way acumen. I think he'll go in the first round.

Wyatt Johnston (C) - Beautiful skater and stickhandler. Great 2-way C with a good stick and positional awareness. His stride has been compared to that of Matt Barzal. Listed at 6'1", but not overly physical.

Ryan Winterton (RW) - Listed at 6'2", is a good skater with 200ft ability. Willing to battle in the tough areas. Both Winterton and Johnston had 4 pts in the tourney.

Simon Robertson (RW) - 6'0" who likes to lay a power forward game. Needs a bit of work on his skating.

Isak Rosén (LW) - His showing in the tourney was better than countryman Lysell despite both of them having 9 points in the tourney (Rosén had 7 goals, Lysell had 3). Creative in setting up plays, and finishing them. Good vision, good skater, good shot.

[dino7c]

That final four games is going to be something...two teams trying to out tank each other with nobody watching (lol I will probably watch some)

####ing Flames needed a couple more wins...Vancouver will be happy to give up 8 points IMO

[Sandman]

I would like to throw another name out for someone we could take in the second round, who didn't play in the U-18's. Samuel Helenius. As I've been reading about the Draft, and watching various highlight videos, I've seen alot on this kid that has me impressed. He's 6'6", and many scouts say he moves well for a man his size-and from watching him, they're right. He's got a cumbersome looking stride, but he really gets a lot out of his extentions, his crossovers look good, and he changes direction well.

He does a ton of PK in Finland, and he excels at it. He's a bit like his Father in that he's physical and mean. He's already got a WJC under his belt, and he put up an impressive 4pts in 7gp. Heck of a wrist shot too. Sutter would love this kid, although he won't be over here for a few years.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I would like to throw another name out for someone we could take in the second round, who didn't play in the U-18's. Samuel Helenius. As I've been reading about the Draft, and watching various highlight videos, I've seen alot on this kid that has me impressed. He's 6'6", and many scouts say he moves well for a man his size-and from watching him, they're right. He's got a cumbersome looking stride, but he really gets a lot out of his extentions, his crossovers look good, and he changes direction well.

He does a ton of PK in Finland, and he excels at it. He's a bit like his Father in that he's physical and mean. He's already got a WJC under his belt, and he put up an impressive 4pts in 7gp. Heck of a wrist shot too.

I've watched highlight footage of the guy and he seems to move really well for someone his size. I think he is an intriguing prospect. It's not too often you see that size combine with mobility and a decent amount of skill. The kid might be 6'7" or 6'8" by the time he makes the NHL.

[dino7c]

Anyone that keeps bringing up 15th overall should go look at the standings and stop worrying

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Anyone that keeps bringing up 15th overall should go look at the standings and stop worrying

Top-7 or bust!!!

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Anyone that keeps bringing up 15th overall should go look at the standings and stop worrying

Realistically, the range is between 7 (where Ottawa is now) and 12 (where Chicago is now). The Flames probably don't have to worry about catching the Flyers, who are one game over 500. And the Flames probably won't finish below Detroit (8 games under).

The teams to watch are Ottawa, Chicago, LA, San Jose and Vancouver.
San Jose, Vancouver and Chicago have only won 3 of their past 10 games.
Both Calgary and Ottawa will be 5 games below 500 if Calgary loses to Ottawa in the next game. Ottawa is by far the hottest out of all the non-playoff teams.

Mathematically, the highest the Flames can pick (without a lottery win) is 5th.

Personally, I'm hoping for a top 8 pick, because there appears to be somewhat of a tier cutoff there. But this draft is probably going to be crazy - I won't be surprised if a lot of teams go off the board.

[Sandman]

Ok, I'm gonna bother y'all again....

I've been digging around as always, and I keep hearing/reading about a Russian defenseman by the name of Vladislav Lukashevich, who plays in the MHL. Many say he would be a first-rounder if he wasn't Russian. There isn't too much out there to say exactly what he is, and not a lot of video, but from the little I've seen, he looks really good.

6'2", great skater, and great vision-he can really thread a pass. He has a fantastic wrister that he gets to the net. I've read that he's great in his own zone, but from what I saw, he needs a bit of work (not that much though, most kids his age need work).

Seems like maybe another dark horse for the second round.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Realistically, the range is between 7 (where Ottawa is now) and 12 (where Chicago is now). The Flames probably don't have to worry about catching the Flyers, who are one game over 500. And the Flames probably won't finish below Detroit (8 games under).

The teams to watch are Ottawa, Chicago, LA, San Jose and Vancouver.
San Jose, Vancouver and Chicago have only won 3 of their past 10 games.
Both Calgary and Ottawa will be 5 games below 500 if Calgary loses to Ottawa in the next game. Ottawa is by far the hottest out of all the non-playoff teams.

Mathematically, the highest the Flames can pick (without a lottery win) is 5th.

Personally, I'm hoping for a top 8 pick, because there appears to be somewhat of a tier cutoff there. But this draft is probably going to be crazy - I won't be surprised if a lot of teams go off the board.

Right you are, and I could see a few trade-downs too, for teams out of the top-8. There's some interesting players in the 2nd and 3rd....

[Roof-Daddy]

The Flames need to lose every game now.

Currently sitting at 9th overall pre-lottery. With no more points it's very likely Detroit, Ottawa, Columbus, New Jersey and Vancouver all pass us in the standings, which would put us 4th overall pre-lottery.

These clowns will probably go 3-2 or 4-1 now that it doesn't matter though.

[Monahammer]

I'm all aboard the brandt Clarke train, and I usually skew against taking dmen with the first.

[Nelson]

I think the goal for the Flames is to get into the top 8 in the draft order post-lottery. It appears there is a clear top 8 in this draft. In Bob McKenzie’s final ranking, Kent Johnson is taken 8th.