04-30-2016, 09:48 PM
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#341
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
No.
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Thats right. Sergachev or Juolevi or Chychrun Would be good choices. Some other FW's too. I can see Nylander landing in CGY as well. The Interviews during the draft and at the combine will sort the rest out. Unless you think you can trade down and grab another asset. I like players down the line too so I'd be okay with trading down this year.
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04-30-2016, 09:49 PM
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#342
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: YSJ (1979-2002) -> YYC (2002-2022) -> YVR (2022-present)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnum PEI
Literally every cup winner since 2001 has had at least one.
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Really, literally every Cup winner since 2001? Are you totally forgetting about Detroit? The Wings have won the Cup twice since 2001 (2002, 2008) but the last time they picked in the top 3 was 1990.
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04-30-2016, 09:50 PM
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#343
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Djibouti
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnum PEI
Literally every cup winner since 2001 has had at least one.
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They've also all been based in US cities, so I guess a franchise relocation is necessary, too, huh?
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04-30-2016, 09:51 PM
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#344
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Victoria, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnum PEI
Basically every team that wins the cup has a top-3 pick. No it doesn't guarantee anything but it's the only way to be a legit contender.
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If that's the case Monahan and Bennett could have been in the top three in different years or circumstances.
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04-30-2016, 09:53 PM
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#345
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnum PEI
Literally every cup winner since 2001 has had at least one.
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Guess it's time to trade for MA Fleury
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04-30-2016, 09:55 PM
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#346
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Franchise Player
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That's a bit disappointing to drop 1 spot down. Flames can never catch a break. Sigh! I'm sure Leafs fans are overjoyed. Can't wait until their first round pick to be a bust!
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04-30-2016, 10:07 PM
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#348
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: The Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnum PEI
Literally every cup winner since 2001 has had at least one.
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Sigh. Still doesn't show why it's "necessary".
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04-30-2016, 10:12 PM
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#349
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarchHare
Really, literally every Cup winner since 2001? Are you totally forgetting about Detroit? The Wings have won the Cup twice since 2001 (2002, 2008) but the last time they picked in the top 3 was 1990.
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Both those teams had top 3 picks, they werent drafted by Detroit though. They also had the second greatest defenceman of all time, so there's a chance we could draft somebody like that, but it's probably like one in five thousand.
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04-30-2016, 10:14 PM
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#350
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Franchise Player
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Man some people find really weird places to dig in.
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04-30-2016, 10:30 PM
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#351
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Quote:
Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf
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Hmm. . Sergachev @ 14 and McLeod @ 17 this draft is so weird.
I guess mocks can be all over.
Last edited by Samonadreau; 04-30-2016 at 10:33 PM.
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04-30-2016, 10:32 PM
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#352
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Apr 2016
Exp: 
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I think it's entirely possible that Vancouver may have a defenseman as their best player available for their slot, assuming Dubois goes to Edmonton. I feel like we have about a 50/50 shot of getting Tkachuk at 6.
If not, then we get whatever defenseman the Flames think is best in the draft. I am fine with either scenario.
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04-30-2016, 10:38 PM
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#353
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erratik
I think it's entirely possible that Vancouver may have a defenseman as their best player available for their slot, assuming Dubois goes to Edmonton. I feel like we have about a 50/50 shot of getting Tkachuk at 6.
If not, then we get whatever defenseman the Flames think is best in the draft. I am fine with either scenario.
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If Tkachuk is there and two of D men are there, who do you take?
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04-30-2016, 10:39 PM
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#354
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Apr 2006
Exp:  
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Gaudreau would also go first overall in the 2011 draft.
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04-30-2016, 10:40 PM
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#355
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Flames fan in Seattle
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Magnum what about redrafts where Johnny would 100% go top 3. Does that give us a chance at the cup again?
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Last edited by FBI; 04-30-2016 at 10:40 PM.
Reason: Dang, puds just beat me
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04-30-2016, 10:41 PM
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#356
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Man some people find really weird places to dig in.
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I just want to have the flames be a contender and this was likely our best chance to get a difference maker. We will be in mid-table obscurity for the next five years unless something amazing happens.
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04-30-2016, 10:42 PM
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#357
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Apr 2016
Exp: 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Par
If Tkachuk is there and two of D men are there, who do you take?
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Personally, I would rather we take a forward, so Tkachuk. But if the Flames scouts have someone like Chychrun clearly ahead of him, then I trust their judgment.
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04-30-2016, 10:44 PM
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#358
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnum PEI
I just want to have the flames be a contender and this was likely our best chance to get a difference maker. We will be in mid-table obscurity for the next five years unless something amazing happens.
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Girl please
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04-30-2016, 10:47 PM
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#359
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnum PEI
I just want to have the flames be a contender and this was likely our best chance to get a difference maker. We will be in mid-table obscurity for the next five years unless something amazing happens.
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It already did, we drafted the best player in the 2011 draft 104th overall.
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04-30-2016, 10:47 PM
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#360
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Lifetime Suspension
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Elite players drafted top3 overall:
Crosby
Kane
Ovechkin
Doughty
Malkin
Tavares
Toews
Stamkos
Seguin
Thornton
McDavid
Hall?
Elite players from outside top3 OA
Karlsson
Benn
Bergeron
Kopitar
Keith
Pavelski
Perry
Getzlaff
Kesler
Johnson
Giroux
Subban
Gaudreau?
Kuznetsov?
Maybe not a complete list, but the chances of drafting or acquiring two elite players without a top 3 are slim to nil. Anaheim managed to do it in the deep 2003 draft. I'll eat crow if St. Louis manages to win the Cup this year, but even they had a first overall somewhat recently.
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