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Old 06-29-2015, 04:43 PM   #341
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Not that I want to rehash an old trade, but it is funny seeing Luke Adam not qualified by CBJ. When the Regehr trade went down, I was hoping (and guessing) he was the return, and Buffalo fans were hoping he wasn't included.

Now you see Byron qualified and carving out somewhat of a niche for himself at the NHL level, and Adam will probably not be able to get another NHL contract for this season. I don't want to go down that path of how good the return for Regehr was or not, but just goes to show you that sometimes one can't get too emotional and definitive when talking about prospects.
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Old 06-29-2015, 04:44 PM   #342
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Don't think Flames are in on this anymore:

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Sources tell me that the #NHLFlames, #Leafs, #SJSharks, #Pens & #Stars are amongst the teams to contact Cody Franson since Thursday.
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Old 06-29-2015, 04:51 PM   #343
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Flames flip Wideman then sugn Franson to continue getting younger and bigger.

I doubt it though they likely contacted him Thursday even the Treliving is probably contacting every free agent so he has a total understanding of the market place
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Old 06-29-2015, 05:47 PM   #344
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Some speculation that Vermette might be open to returning to Arizona now that he has a cup ring.
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Old 06-29-2015, 05:48 PM   #345
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Some speculation that Vermette might be open to returning to Arizona now that he has a cup ring.
Yeah, It seemed like he really liked it there. He even cried a bit when he got traded, I think.
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Old 06-29-2015, 05:51 PM   #346
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Makes sense. ARZ can afford to pay him a heavy cap hit. So long as the term is fair for the team. I figure 3 years and they're going to need to pay a whole bunch of their kids.
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Old 06-29-2015, 06:07 PM   #347
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Flames flip Wideman then sugn Franson to continue getting younger and bigger.

I doubt it though they likely contacted him Thursday even the Treliving is probably contacting every free agent so he has a total understanding of the market place
They'd get bigger and younger, but also worse.

I would rather keep Wideman on this team and stay far away from Franson.
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Old 06-29-2015, 08:25 PM   #348
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Coyotes didn't qualify John Moore, who was part of the Yandle trade.

A team should pick him up as depth.
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Old 06-29-2015, 08:28 PM   #349
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I'd still love for Treliving to trade for Jimmy Hayes. Then he can rub it in that he gets to play along side Gaudreau to his brother. I like J. Hayes more anyhow.

I'd even be comfortable moving Granlund or something similar in a package to get him.
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Old 06-29-2015, 08:47 PM   #350
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So which goalie do you think the Flames sign?

IMO at the very least, we need an veteran AHL/NHL tweener. Somebody who can share the workload and mentor Gillies in the AHL, while at the same time can come up and play a few NHL games in the case of an injury.

As it stands right now, a Hiller injury would have the Flames running out an Ortio/Gillies tandem that has a combined 15 games of NHL experience. I can't see Treliving risking that.

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Labarbera
Leighton
Ellis
Budaj
Clemmenson
MacDonald (haha)

Think the Flames sign a guy like this?
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Old 06-29-2015, 08:52 PM   #351
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Sources tell me that the #NHLFlames, #Leafs, #SJSharks, #Pens & #Stars are amongst the teams to contact Cody Franson since Thursday.
I think the Flames are still interested.

Have the D be

Gio-Brodie
Hamilton-Franson
Wideman-Russell
Engelland

Next offseason you can deal Wideman to create some cap space.

The Flames are one or two injuries away from being screwed again if they don't get anyone.
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Old 06-29-2015, 08:58 PM   #352
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Would love John Moore for depth, only 24 and think there is untapped potential there.

Crazy that Arizona didn't qualify him.
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Old 06-29-2015, 09:05 PM   #353
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Im not an expert but it would be interesting to see what happens to Viktor Fasth - hasnt been great on the Oil (but who has?) - looked pretty good on the Ducks before he came to the Oil... I think he has potential thats been hidden behind a porous defense

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Old 06-29-2015, 10:22 PM   #354
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Im not an expert but it would be interesting to see what happens to Viktor Fasth - hasnt been great on the Oil (but who has?) - looked pretty good on the Ducks before he came to the Oil... I think he has potential thats been hidden behind a porous defense

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Fasth looked the best when he was wearing bigger pads than what is allowed. He hasn't been the same since then.
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Old 06-29-2015, 10:34 PM   #355
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I think the Flames are still interested.

Have the D be

Gio-Brodie
Hamilton-Franson
Wideman-Russell
Engelland

Next offseason you can deal Wideman to create some cap space.

The Flames are one or two injuries away from being screwed again if they don't get anyone.
Wat too expensive of a d cope considering Smid and Engellend represent $6.4M of press box cap space and lilely Franson costs $5.5M and Hamilton will be $6.5M with Gio's $7.5M extension after the season.

We are set at D unless Treliving moves a guy like Wideman for futures or help up front. Personally I do think we should stand pat at D
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Old 06-29-2015, 10:35 PM   #356
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Fasth looked bad last year. Like, really, really bad. I would rather the Flames take a big pass on him.
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Old 06-29-2015, 10:40 PM   #357
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Only goalie worth signing would be ramo. Really hope we can get him signed and ship hillier off he can arrive to his new destination on knees which is where he spends 95% of time.
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Old 06-29-2015, 10:44 PM   #358
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Wat too expensive of a d cope considering Smid and Engellend represent $6.4M of press box cap space and lilely Franson costs $5.5M and Hamilton will be $6.5M with Gio's $7.5M extension after the season.

We are set at D unless Treliving moves a guy like Wideman for futures or help up front. Personally I do think we should stand pat at D
You can do that for this season and look to move out Smid/Engelland/Wideman between now and the end of their contracts. Teams need legit NHL D-men all the time. Even if you have to eat 750K-1 mil of Smid/Engelland's contract to move them when the time comes, it won't be that big a deal.

We have more than 28 million tied up in movable, replaceable players (Smid/Engelland/Wideman/Hiller/Raymond/Jones/Stajan) and only Stajan's deal lasts more than this year and next. Raises will come from that pool.
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Old 06-30-2015, 12:25 AM   #359
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Taking a look through this RFA list on HF and there is slim pickings as expected. Plus the Flames already have like 5 too many bottom six players on NHL contracts. http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1912121

Now, I don't expect any interest in any of these guys, just a little list.

Forward
Eric Tangradi: Big winger (6'4, 220), which the Flames have said they would like. Really good defensively but next to no offence with him. Depth option.

Luke Adam: Boy has he fallen since the Regehr for Adam rumours. Average size. Started his career very brightly with 1.1 pts/gm as an AHL rookie but seems to be regressing quickly. Probably close to heading overseas now.

Dana Tyrell: Local kid, close to his family. Speed for days but hasn't translated his offence from junior - never really recovered from devastating knee injury in World Junior camp. Other knee and ankle injuries since. Tough to see a player's career ruined via injury, but probably Europe-bound as well.

Matt Fraser: Red Deer kid, Flames fan growing up. Also really close to his family. Great shot. Good AHL numbers but hasn't translated that to the NHL - played 4th line in Boston then got stuck in Edmonton last year, so has looked worse than he is.

Defence
Mark Barberio: Solid #6/7 guy. Tough to crack Tampa's defence and likely no room in Calgary either.

Jon Blum: Former first-rounder. Brings some offence but plays extremely soft. One last shot before heading overseas?

Conor Allen: Tough to crack the Presidents Trophy-winning Rangers' blue line but got some games. Has some offence skills and plays mean. A good depth option or #6/7.

Viktor Svedberg: Didn't crack Chicago's lineup despite all their playoff injuries but was one of the Black Aces. He's big. Really big. 6'9, 235, and by all accounts just getting comfortable with his size. Flames like big depth guys. Potential?

Taylor Doherty: Like, Svedberg, he brings size and not much else. 6'7, 235, and shoots right handed which is becoming a wanted commodity.

Goaltender
Mark Visentin: Former first-rounder and Canadian World Junior gold medal game starter. Has played awful in his pro career to date, but he's just 22. Perhaps a shot to see if he has some potential left.
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Not that I want to rehash an old trade, but it is funny seeing Luke Adam not qualified by CBJ. When the Regehr trade went down, I was hoping (and guessing) he was the return, and Buffalo fans were hoping he wasn't included.

Now you see Byron qualified and carving out somewhat of a niche for himself at the NHL level, and Adam will probably not be able to get another NHL contract for this season. I don't want to go down that path of how good the return for Regehr was or not, but just goes to show you that sometimes one can't get too emotional and definitive when talking about prospects.
This brings to mind the Phaneuf trade & everyone being especially distraught when Keith Aulie was included. He hasn't been qualified by the Oilers. He couldn't stick with the OILERS pitiful defense.
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