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Old 05-01-2014, 06:03 PM   #341
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Ha! Madness!

Alright, well let's say ineedanother is legit. Have the doctor protect him until we need him and then we go from there.

What are we thinking? I'm still MORE than comfortable with ActiveStick, getting a little less comfortable about Hockeyguy (but I don't really think there's a "wrong" move to make on day 1).

I really just think everyone should throw votes at the wall, because we're currently running in circles and it's looking silly.
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Old 05-01-2014, 06:03 PM   #342
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and of course, by both mafia I mean from different factions.
Good point. Didn't think about that. What a twist!

I'm new to these wacky hi-jinks.
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Old 05-01-2014, 06:07 PM   #343
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I think we should stick to ineedanother's suggestions in the early days, as they are the only ones guaranteed to not be made by mafia. I am holding off until tomorrow, then I will vote as a block with ineedanother's choice.
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Old 05-01-2014, 06:12 PM   #344
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If you are a townsperson, you would be more than happy to have a fellow townsperson fly under the radar with his wacky demeanor and model-like good looks. It increases our numbers and helps us in the end game.
This is only applicable if I somehow knew you were a townsperson. Seeing as I can't know that I'm not sure why you would suggest I want you "to fly under the radar."

While I'm glad you're actually trying to provide information I'm a bit suspicious you wouldn't consider my viewpoint as a townsperson who doesn't know what you are.
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Old 05-01-2014, 06:13 PM   #345
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I have no idea who to vote for. At this point I can't decide, but worry that inactivity will be viewed poorly later on.

Day one and my brain hurts.
I know right? I'm still trying to get my barrings in this game. Don't know who i should vote for. Also not helping having legoman leading the charge on taking my head. Can't even defend myself against an RNG.
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Old 05-01-2014, 06:22 PM   #346
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Not changing my vote. I suggest that you kill me if you are the vigilante to save yourself and prove that you are a Townie.

Add it stands you have made a claim that no one will refute and have the backing of a few players who seem to be throwing themselves into convincing the other players that you are the real deal.

We have 2 likely situations.

1. You are the vigilante and kill me. I lose, no big deal.

2. You are mafia, and are making the claim to get ahead a couple days by having your fellow mafia act as though you can't possibly be anything but a player. This means that likely SP and starseed are mafia as well.

So kill me. If you can't, then we know who 3 of you are and have a huge advantage. If you do, then I am out, but that's a price I am willing to pay for the possibility that we knock out 3 mafia in the first 3 days.

Posting from my phone, so this might not make sense.

For the record, in case I die before I can post again. I think dsavilliian is right.
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Old 05-01-2014, 06:31 PM   #347
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Not changing my vote. I suggest that you kill me if you are the vigilante to save yourself and prove that you are a Townie.

Add it stands you have made a claim that no one will refute and have the backing of a few players who seem to be throwing themselves into convincing the other players that you are the real deal.

We have 2 likely situations.

1. You are the vigilante and kill me. I lose, no big deal.

2. You are mafia, and are making the claim to get ahead a couple days by having your fellow mafia act as though you can't possibly be anything but a player. This means that likely SP and starseed are mafia as well.

So kill me. If you can't, then we know who 3 of you are and have a huge advantage. If you do, then I am out, but that's a price I am willing to pay for the possibility that we knock out 3 mafia in the first 3 days.

Posting from my phone, so this might not make sense.

For the record, in case I die before I can post again. I think dsavilliian is right.
Let's hold off on killing anyone for now and think this through.
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Old 05-01-2014, 06:31 PM   #348
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How about this scenario: ineedanother uses his kill now to off someone on his list, if it is successful and he was the vigilante, we then either get a list from ineedanother of lynch picks from a proven townie, or we ask the doctor to save him so that he could lead a voting block in the next couple of rounds.

However, the down side is that we lose the kill only to gain a temporary proven innocent leader for the first few rounds.
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Old 05-01-2014, 06:35 PM   #349
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I can't think of a situation where we get out of this with a Vig kill left to use.

The only way we can prove that ineedanother is not the vigilante is to have the real vigilante kill him. If he isn't the real vigilante, then he is obviously mafia, along with his cohorts. If he is, then he doesn't die.

Just throwing out ideas. I kind of agree that we need to think this though. I am rushed right now so I might be missing something obvious
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Old 05-01-2014, 06:39 PM   #350
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The best way to verify ineedanother is for the real vigilante to kill him. If the real vigilante doesn't he is legit
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Old 05-01-2014, 06:41 PM   #351
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Excellent point. Another reason to hold off on voting until at least tomorrow night. If nothing happens, then I think we are justified in believing ineedanother is legit.
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Old 05-01-2014, 06:44 PM   #352
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I can't think of a situation where we get out of this with a Vig kill left to use.

The only way we can prove that ineedanother is not the vigilante is to have the real vigilante kill him. If he isn't the real vigilante, then he is obviously mafia, along with his cohorts. If he is, then he doesn't die.

Just throwing out ideas. I kind of agree that we need to think this though. I am rushed right now so I might be missing something obvious
I don't want to rush with my kill right now, I made the reveal as with six votes another quick block like the last one might kill me before I get a chance to kill somebody. Right now you are not my top target, but that could change. I think the ones who currently have the biggest problem with my reveal would be mafia. As it somewhat forces their hand.
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Old 05-01-2014, 06:45 PM   #353
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How about this scenario: ineedanother uses his kill now to off someone on his list, if it is successful and he was the vigilante, we then either get a list from ineedanother of lynch picks from a proven townie, or we ask the doctor to save him so that he could lead a voting block in the next couple of rounds.

However, the down side is that we lose the kill only to gain a temporary proven innocent leader for the first few rounds.
My issue with this thinking, is that I am rather green at this game, and without re-reading a lot of the thread, I can not see posting/voting patterns.
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Old 05-01-2014, 06:49 PM   #354
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People could bring information to you to review, but the main thing is that a proven townsperson would be making the lynch decision.
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Old 05-01-2014, 06:50 PM   #355
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Thus taking power away from the mafia in leading the charge.
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Old 05-01-2014, 07:06 PM   #356
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My issue with this thinking, is that I am rather green at this game, and without re-reading a lot of the thread, I can not see posting/voting patterns.
Don't kill yet. Right now you power is worth .23 dead mafia guys wait to kill until we are likely choosing between two people one of who is likely scum. We ynch one kill the other. Then its worth .5 dead mafia. It is a waste of your power to kill now. Let the doctor protect you until there is some basis for you to kill.

The fact some are suggesting using it now is pro mafia strategy
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Old 05-01-2014, 07:21 PM   #357
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Well now that hes the "Vigilante" he is one of 3

1. The actual vigilante, who's just been trying to rally the troops and had to expose himself in order to defend himself.

2. Regular Townsperson that's trying to stir the pot and keep things exciting but doesnt want to die yet.

3. He could be Scum who's gonna use his nightkill to "prove" him being a townie and using that to that to lead townies in the direction of his mafia.

In my own opinion, he is unable to actually prove it besides saying a name, and having that person die, ALONG with 3 others. Should be a Bloody first night. Maybe 4 deaths?
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Old 05-01-2014, 07:28 PM   #358
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3. He could be Scum who's gonna use his nightkill to "prove" him being a townie and using that to that to lead townies in the direction of his mafia.
according to the role PMs on the 1st page, the vigilante would use his kill during the day through this thread, not during the night through Mazrim ... so basically your 3rd idea can't happen. If I've understood the role PM correctly, of course.
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Old 05-01-2014, 07:33 PM   #359
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according to the role PMs on the 1st page, the vigilante would use his kill during the day through this thread, not during the night through Mazrim ... so basically your 3rd idea can't happen. If I've understood the role PM correctly, of course.
Figured the whole Vigilante thing would be like batman in the dark kinda deal, if its during the day. Then i'm even less sure why he'd go out and say that.
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Old 05-01-2014, 08:49 PM   #360
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I've reviewed the thread, the way HD defended himself doesn't strike me as genuine townie, also, he was active at the time but didn't do anything to dissuade anyone from HG.

I believe HG is town.

So I'm likely to vote HD, take a look and consider it.

I'm also considering the lowest posters: mmhmmcamo 4 Crazy Bacon Legs 4 CofR 3 Oling_Roachinen 3 Baxter Renegade 2 transplant99 1
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