2013/2014 Champions League Thread

[Locke]

Well. I didnt see that coming.

[The Big Chill]

I think the Moyes sack watch is on. Fans are not happy right now.

[Locke]

Doesnt sound like it was even a particularly exciting game.

[cam_wmh]

Poll out there, if this was the worst loss ever.

If he escapes this, he's Teflon.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

Poll out there, if this was the worst loss ever.

If he escapes this, he's Teflon.

Really? Makes sense though, Olympiakos should have been a cake-walk.

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by Roy Keane;

I think David Moyes will be shocked

Originally Posted by Roy Keane;

He went into United in the summer expecting great things, he’s probably looked at them at close quarters and I would say, privately, that he is shocked with the lack of quality that he is working with.

wow

[Locke]

I dont get it. Its the same team as last year with the addition of Juan Mata and occasionally/eventually Fellaini.

Did Ferguson rig the league last year to run away with it?

[d_phaneuf]

Rio Ferdinand ✔ @rioferdy5
Fulham just signed our next CL opponents star man....good work Rene!! #TransferDeadlineDay
7:34 AM - 31 Jan 2014

https://twitter.com/rioferdy5/status...76606772031488

[The Big Chill]

Originally Posted by Locke

I dont get it. Its the same team as last year with the addition of Juan Mata and occasionally/eventually Fellaini.

Did Ferguson rig the league last year to run away with it?

Or did he rig it this year to make himself look even better?

Moyes is pretty much at Hodgeson levels of disaster at this point. He's going to lose this team pretty soon, if he hasn't already. United have a massive financial commitment to Moyes, so it's quite the dilemma.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

Rio Ferdinand ✔ @rioferdy5
Fulham just signed our next CL opponents star man....good work Rene!! #TransferDeadlineDay
7:34 AM - 31 Jan 2014

https://twitter.com/rioferdy5/status...76606772031488

I remember that. I was thinking at the CL draw that United got the easiest draw out of all of them and then Fulham signed Mitroglou and it couldnt have gotten any easier. I didnt think Olympiakos even had any goals in them, now all they have to do is go to OT and pull a 'Fulham.'

[d_phaneuf]

Robin van Persie speaking to NOS :

My teammates are in some of the areas where I want to play. This makes it difficult for me. Then I have to change my tactics to suit my teammates, and play outside my zone."

[Locke]

Originally Posted by The Big Chill

Or did he rig it this year to make himself look even better?

Moyes is pretty much at Hodgeson levels of disaster at this point. He's going to lose this team pretty soon, if he hasn't already. United have a massive financial commitment to Moyes, so it's quite the dilemma.

Either way would suggest a narcissism of unreal proportions, it seems more likely to me that Moyes is just that bad.

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by Locke

I dont get it. Its the same team as last year with the addition of Juan Mata and occasionally/eventually Fellaini.

Did Ferguson rig the league last year to run away with it?

I think it was just a perfect storm of manager calamadies with City & Chelsea, and Liverpool & Arsenal still in the development stages with their new talent.

[cam_wmh]

Mata behind Rooney is optimal for the future imo.

Sell RVP.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

I think it was just a perfect storm of manager calamadies with City & Chelsea, and Liverpool & Arsenal still in the development stages with their new talent.

I think you're right, along with the fact that United's squad are now a year older, more injured and less disciplined.

[GirlySports]

Moyes' downfall will be continuing to play Ashley Young and never playing Shinji Kagawa

[The Big Chill]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

I think it was just a perfect storm of manager calamadies with City & Chelsea, and Liverpool & Arsenal still in the development stages with their new talent.

Oh ya, I was only joking about rigging anything. Moyes has just been terrible. I guess that's what happens when you spend your whole transfer budget on two players who play in Rooney's position.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Locke

I dont get it. Its the same team as last year with the addition of Juan Mata and occasionally/eventually Fellaini.

Did Ferguson rig the league last year to run away with it?

I would say that last season was probably as a whole the lowest standard ever.

City were a gong show, everyone else was regrouping.

Originally Posted by The Big Chill

United have a massive financial commitment to Moyes, so it's quite the dilemma.

I would hope or expect there is something in the contract to get rid of him for a set cost. If not. I would chip in.

[Bagor]

Maxi Rodriguez ‏@FutbolIntellect

How David Moyes views a football pitch:

[The Big Chill]

Originally Posted by Bagor

I would say that last season was probably as a whole the lowest standard ever.

City were a gong show, everyone else was regrouping.

I would hope or expect there is something in the contract to get rid of him for a set cost. If not. I would chip in.

I don't know if there would be an out clause in the contract. Giving him a 6 year, 30 mil contract was all about retaining stability at the club. An out clause would be going against that idea.

Firing him now could cost the 25+ million left on his contract, the multiple millions still left on his staff's contracts, all while still paying Fergie's staff that Moyes got rid of. It's hard to imagine paying another new manager and his staff on top of that.

Of course it is possible there is an out clause that would cut a chunk off of that total, but it's still an enormous amount.