Calgary offers picks 6, 22, 28 for the first overall: no dice

[Flash Walken]

Not a bad attempt, but at the same time, I don't think it's the direction the team needs to go in.

Calgary needs to draft two or three roster players out of this draft and do the same next year. In year three, sell everything to get Connor McDavid. Right now though, need bodies.

Need to draft and season guys like Seabrook, Hjalmarsson, Bolland and then trade some serious pieces to move up for home-runs.

You get a bunch of home runs now, you're in the situations the oilers find themselves in: A bunch of high priced young talent without roleplayers and cap friendly Entry Level deals that allow you to win.

Would not have lost my mind to draft Jones or McKinnon, though.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

If Detroit had not let in those 2 stinker goals and the flames were drafting 3rd, i bet the Av's would have made the trade down to 3rd with only the 28th pick included, maybe even a roster player instead. Roy has said a couple of times that he wants one of the big 3. I think the only teams they will listen to are Florida and Tampa.

Are people still on about that? Yeah it sucks we won those games down the stretch but teams like Carolina and Tampa out-tanked us when they already have elite talent. At least with teams like the Preds they actually put in a full effort, they just weren't good enough. In terms of who needs the top 3 picks i would say the Flames, Preds and Panthers need them the most.

[Bourque's Twin]

I'm happy to see Feaster wheeling and dealing.

[Sylvanfan]

Really of all the teams in the top 7 in the draft, the Flames are the one who should be the most patient. Sure it's 4 non playoff years, but the other teams already have several key players in place, or in the case of Florida have been so bad for so long, they can't force another 3 year rebuild on their fan base.

So that alone will make it tough to move up because other teams want a player to step in now and make their team better or they will be looking at a lot of empty seats in the final third of their season. The Flames are the team in this group who are entering a rebuild, and don't have the 2-3 star type players on their roster.

I don't blame them for trying, but they are in a phase where collecting assets for a couple years, than getting a couple high end talents in the next draft may not be such a bad thing. The key is to have 5-6 good players under 25 in place as the 3-6 defenceman, or 4-9 forward spots when the top end talents come into the lineup.

[gonzo29]

Had this happened I would've been upset about not having the 3 picks for about 1.5 seconds, then thrilled at the fact that we'd be getting the frigging first overall pick. No problem with that attempt at all.

[PlayfulGenius]

Originally Posted by gonzo29

Had this happened I would've been upset about not having the 3 picks for about 1.5 seconds, then thrilled at the fact that we'd be getting the frigging first overall pick. No problem with that attempt at all.

Ya, I guess I would likely react that way too, I guess... Anyway, I just hope Feaster isn't keen on adding much more to that offer in an attempt to land Mackinnon

[kn]

Teams at the top are giving up a sure thing so picks alone won't do it; they will want top young players already in the NHL. The only two we have are Baertschi and Brodie. It likely will take 6, 22, 28, and either Baertschi or Brodie and even then it may not be enough if neither player is highly rated by the other team.

I like MacKinnon as much as the next guy but if 6, 22, 28 doesn't get it done, I'm not sure I want to throw in Baertschi or Brodie.

I think Gio is overrated by Flames' fans and adds nothing to the pot. Plus, doesn't he have a NTC/NMC? I can't remember since the organization hands them out like candy.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Not interested in changing my name but I'll give you $50 if the Flames finish in the bottom5 and you give me $20 if they don't.

You have got yourself a deal!

[icecube]

Witness! Pecentage?

[sureLoss]

Dater says the Avs won't trade out of the top 3:
http://blogs.denverpost.com/avs/2013...-1-pick/13849/

There was no chance of the Avs accepting Calgary’s offer for one very good reason too: they hate the Flames, over the Ryan O’Reilly offer sheet. Those in Avs management still around from last year would rather walk on hot coals from Santa Fe to Saskatoon before doing the Flames any favors.

[kyuss275]

Yep i'm sure the Av's front office is not happy about the offer sheet and its going to take time for them to get over it. It was one thing to do an offer sheet, but a whole other thing to do it 2 hours before the puck dropped in their home building. I can imagine with what little fan base that showed up to that game, that they were bitching and moaning that management should have taken care of ROR way before that.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Husky

Id rather the Flames get 1 very solid asset with #6 and 2 solid assets with the other first round picks.

I'm sure a lot of people would love that, but we need accept the reality that even in a strong draft, the 22nd and 28th picks on their own are unlikely to yield impact NHL players, let alone assuming that both of them will.

This would have been a steal of a deal for the Flames.

[Zevo]

If the Avs turn down an offer that may help them because of hurt feelings, they are a much worse run team than the Flames.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by rhino

I think those wanting Lindholm or Barkov need to remember the Feaster has stated they want the first rounders to come in and compete for a spot this coming training camp. Both of them will not be in North America next year.

You're guaranteeing that? Lindholm says he'd like to go back to Sweden. But obviously he'd come to training camp. Barkov is NHL ready and could be talked into staying in the NHL IMO.

To suggest we wouldn't take Barkov because he isn't ready right now is little silly IMO. He's clearly one of the more NHL ready prospects despite what he's said about returning to Finland or not.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Zevo

If the Avs turn down an offer that may help them because of hurt feelings, they are a much worse run team than the Flames.

They did not turn it down because of hurt feelings, they turned it down because all along they have said that they want one of the 3 ellite players.

If the Av's pick Jones, i have no doubt Feaster will offer the same thing to Florida and be turned down once again. Florida needs to put buts in the seats and i doubt a marketing campaign of, "come see if Lindholm can make the Panthers in 2 years" will help them.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I'm sure a lot of people would love that, but we need accept the reality that even in a strong draft, the 22nd and 28th picks on their own are unlikely to yield impact NHL players, let alone assuming that both of them will.

This would have been a steal of a deal for the Flames.

Huh? In a strong draft the #22 and #28 are likely to yield impact NHLers IMO, not unlikely.

[$ven27]

Originally Posted by Zevo

If the Avs turn down an offer that may help them because of hurt feelings, they are a much worse run team than the Flames.

Dater is basically their Eric Francis, anything he says should be ignored.

[Zevo]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

They did not turn it down because of hurt feelings, they turned it down because all along they have said that they want one of the 3 ellite players.

If the Av's pick Jones, i have no doubt Feaster will offer the same thing to Florida and be turned down once again. Florida needs to put buts in the seats and i doubt a marketing campaign of, "come see if Lindholm can make the Panthers in 2 years" will help them.

I don't doubt that, just responding to the quote sureloss posted.

[PlayfulGenius]

The Flames only need to keep all 3 picks, then proceed to pick the only 2 Fs that will develop into superior players to Mackinnon

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Huh? In a strong draft the #22 and #28 are likely to yield impact NHLers IMO, not unlikely.

Even in 2003, which is considered to be the strongest draft in a generation, only about 6 of the players picked between 20 and 30 are what I personally would consider impact NHLers.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2003e.html