Annual Trade Iggy thread

[Buff]

I can't help but wonder if those comments coming from a former teammate in Rhett Warrener will help Iginla to find that next level he has been lacking. I think his effort is actually better this year than it was at the beginning of either of the last two seasons, although it has dropped off over the past few games. His frustration level is likely causing him more problems and negatively affecting his motivation. However, hearing a former teammate, and one that we suspect is well regarded by Iginla, say those words may be something that Iginla needs.

Or, perhaps Iginla just isn't happy with how things are going, but has too comfortable to seek a change in scenery. I think if he were traded this year or signed somewhere else in the off season that he will have a bit of a rejuvenation in his career.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I think if this team fails there is a reasonable chance Feaster gets the boot and if so hopefully they let Weisbroad take care of the rebuild.

The "hockey guy" built a NBA finalist in 5 years.

Feaster isn't going anywhere; he is not part of the problem.

[Stay Golden]

Is it possible Iginla has a nagging injury we are not aware of.

[Torch]

Yeah it's called a Heart Problem!

[timbit]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Feaster isn't going anywhere; he is not part of the problem.

Besides...his vernacular, with all his cute little terms and phrases, will keep a lot of fans entertained and/ or confused while going through the tribulation.

[Inglewood Jack]

Originally Posted by keenan87

What about something like:

To Philly:
Jarome iginla
Mikka Kiprusoff

To Calgary:
Sean Couturier
Matt Read
ilya Bryzgalov

you want that universe-sized contract on our books until the next decade? we've all spent our time patiently waiting for this next season when the biggest commitments finally drop off the payroll. not that Feaster will necessarily reallocate the money properly but you'd hope that it would at least go to some players under the age of 30 for once.

[$ven27]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Feaster isn't going anywhere; he is not part of the problem.

I wouldn't be opposed to having Weisbrod as the GM and Jay as the assistant GM though.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Feaster isn't going anywhere; he is not part of the problem.

I agree I honestly like what Feaster has done for the most part with the mandate given and the mess he inherited. He also has said numerous times that he is not going to be the GM that rebuilds this team.

If he is not the guy does that mean Iginla gets traded for 2 25 year olds instead of a rebuilding package?

I don't know I have been fooled every year to think this team is better than it actually is. We are now at the point where Iggy, and Kipper are getting quite old and they are still the main keys to the Flames being a playoff team.

I have heard Edwards does not want to suffer through 7 years of bad hockey like the Flames of 96-03. I am starting to get worried that Oilers fans were right and we are starting to trend the way they did in 06/07. Try hard for 2-3 years to make playoffs and fail then be forced to go through a very painful rebuilding process.

I am probably over-reacting but I have been fooled 2 years in a row by this team (2010 I was shocked what happened I thought we were a cup contender before that epic losing streak). I was highly optimistic again this year and that is starting to go away very quickly. I would prefer a new direction with new blood. Stock pile first round picks, move 3/4 of our older assets (Iggy, Kipper, Bouw and one of Cammy/Tangs) get one of MacKinnon, Drouin, Barkov, Monahan and re-tool for next year.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I think if this team fails there is a reasonable chance Feaster gets the boot and if so hopefully they let Weisbroad take care of the rebuild.

The "hockey guy" built a NBA finalist in 5 years.

Saying he built an NBA finalist is being insanely genorous to Weisbrod.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I agree I honestly like what Feaster has done for the most part with the mandate given and the mess he inherited. He also has said numerous times that he is not going to be the GM that rebuilds this team.

If he is not the guy does that mean Iginla gets traded for 2 25 year olds instead of a rebuilding package?

I don't know I have been fooled every year to think this team is better than it actually is. We are now at the point where Iggy, and Kipper are getting quite old and they are still the main keys to the Flames being a playoff team.

I have heard Edwards does not want to suffer through 7 years of bad hockey like the Flames of 96-03. I am starting to get worried that Oilers fans were right and we are starting to trend the way they did in 06/07. Try hard for 2-3 years to make playoffs and fail then be forced to go through a very painful rebuilding process.

I am probably over-reacting but I have been fooled 2 years in a row by this team (2010 I was shocked what happened I thought we were a cup contender before that epic losing streak). I was highly optimistic again this year and that is starting to go away very quickly. I would prefer a new direction with new blood. Stock pile first round picks, move 3/4 of our older assets (Iggy, Kipper, Bouw and one of Cammy/Tangs) get one of MacKinnon, Drouin, Barkov, Monahan and re-tool for next year.

At this stage I think 7 years of bad hockey would require a miracle. 8 or 9 is far more likely

[Inglewood Jack]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I have heard Edwards does not want to suffer through 7 years of bad hockey like the Flames of 96-03. I am starting to get worried that Oilers fans were right and we are starting to trend the way they did in 06/07. Try hard for 2-3 years to make playoffs and fail then be forced to go through a very painful rebuilding process.

I think that would only happen with exceptionally bad management, the calibre of which only the Oil have had since their cup run. there are enough examples of teams bottoming out for 1 or 2 years at most (Boston, Philly, Chicago, LA) to prove a rebuild doesn't have to be a 5+ season long exercise in frustration.

Because the plan's always been around Iggy/Kipper here, once they're gone only then can we evaluate how good our scouting, drafting and GMing is. Feaster might still screw it up bad, but I'm willing to let him have a crack at it.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Inglewood Jack

I think that would only happen with exceptionally bad management, the calibre of which only the Oil have had since their cup run. there are enough examples of teams bottoming out for 1 or 2 years at most (Boston, Philly, Chicago, LA) to prove a rebuild doesn't have to be a 5+ season long exercise in frustration.

Because the plan's always been around Iggy/Kipper here, once they're gone only then can we evaluate how good our scouting, drafting and GMing is. Feaster might still screw it up bad, but I'm willing to let him have a crack at it.

I think you might want to ask Chicago and LA fans how quick their rebuilds were.

And Philly hasn't won since 75 so I don't think we can grant them anything at this point either

[Jason14h]

Is it possible Iginla has a nagging injury we are not aware of.

No, it is more possible he come next on this list:

Roman Hamrlik
Jaromir Jagr
Teemu Selanne
Alexei Kovalev
Brian Rolston
Jason Arnott
Ray Whitney
Sean O'Donnel
Shane Doan
Martin Brodeur
Radek Dvorak

These are the only active players with more game played then Iginla.

And he has had to do it being the best player on the team and playing against the opponents best players the entire time.

Players get old.... It happens

[CaptainCrunch]

Part of me thinks that the best thing that we can do for Iggy is trade him somewhere else and give him not only a chance at a cup. but to get him away from this fan base and this media before they completely turn on him, and that's coming and its coming fast.

Either you can die as the hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by moon

Saying he built an NBA finalist is being insanely genorous to Weisbrod.

Did he not draft the player that lead the Magic to the 2009 finals when the basketball world told him to draft Okafor?

[moon]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Did he not draft the player that lead the Magic to the 2009 finals when the basketball world told him to draft Okafor?

It was a toss up that year and one guy (outside of maybe Lebron) is not building a championship team.

He was GM for one year and the team went to the finals 3 years after he left. He didn't build the finals team.

[EddyBeers]

The Flames appear to be reaching that point that the Oilers got to the year they drafted Hall this year. So I would guess it will probably only be 7 years, maybe 8 consecutive years that the Flames miss the playoffs. After this season they should be halfway home in a glass half full world.

The worst thing the previous coach did was have the team in playoff contention, it appears that that will not be a problem this year which will hopefully speed up the rebuilding process.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Part of me thinks that the best thing that we can do for Iggy is trade him somewhere else and give him not only a chance at a cup. but to get him away from this fan base and this media before they completely turn on him, and that's coming and its coming fast.

Either you can die as the hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain

Yes, that's what I was trying to say as well but you said it better.

I think the Warrener article was a tipping point and the fan hatred that used to be a fringe element is going to grow into a ****storm from here.

Whether it is the right decision for the team or not is going to be no longer relevant. It is going to get ugly and Iginla is simply going to be run out of town, I am afraid.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Part of me thinks that the best thing that we can do for Iggy is trade him somewhere else and give him not only a chance at a cup. but to get him away from this fan base and this media before they completely turn on him, and that's coming and its coming fast.

Either you can die as the hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain

I fully agree. If you think its bad now, just imagine if Iggy signs a 4-5 year contract at $5-6 million a year. Those last couple of years will be brutal. Flames fans will be screaming to trade him, but no team will want him at that money for what he will bring at that age.

[Username: Flames]

Poor Jarome. He just wants to save his city, but his city is about to turn on him...He's totally Batman. Flames should trade him to Gotham.

To Gotham:
Jarome Iginla

To Calgary:
2013 1st Round Pick
Bruce Wayne