Mark "Fricken" Jankowski (aka The Big Jankowski)

[calgaryrocks]

how is Jankowski doing this year so far?

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by calgaryrocks

how is Jankowski doing this year so far?

He scored two goals in his first College game and was held scorless in his second.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

This point (less high end talent) is somewhat counterbalanced by the fact that the talent in the NCAA is older and thus more developed. So Jankowski may not be playing against the best 18 and 19 year olds in the world but he is playing against some 21, 22, 23 year old men who have had more development time than CHL players.

Yeah, IMO in head to head competition NCAA teams would win against CHL teams because of the age difference. I also get the impression that NCAA teams play a more structured game since they have more time to practice and this would lead to wins but maybe at the expense of individualism. I've seen rankings that put the NCAA only slightly below the ECHL in level of play.
Top talent difference, I'd probably give the edge to the CHL but that could change as the US now has almost as many registered hockey players as Canada has. Than again a lot of the US players are choosing the CHL so development choices are a very individual subject.

[Reanimate]

Seems I caused a CHL VS NCAA ####storm and then never returned. Nice.

[FBI]

OK so back to Jankowski, when is his next game?

[Gallick]

Originally Posted by FBI

OK so back to Jankowski, when is his next game?

Here's a link to the Providence College schedule.

[calgaryrocks]

from above, they play friday/saturday nights this weekend

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

Yeah, IMO in head to head competition NCAA teams would win against CHL teams because of the age difference. I also get the impression that NCAA teams play a more structured game since they have more time to practice and this would lead to wins but maybe at the expense of individualism. I've seen rankings that put the NCAA only slightly below the ECHL in level of play.
Top talent difference, I'd probably give the edge to the CHL but that could change as the US now has almost as many registered hockey players as Canada has. Than again a lot of the US players are choosing the CHL so development choices are a very individual subject.

Not a perfect example, but the US National Team Development Program, which is basically a Jr. all star team, used to (and maybe still does) play games against NCAA D-I teams. I went to a couple and the games were pretty close.

[FAN]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

Yeah, IMO in head to head competition NCAA teams would win against CHL teams because of the age difference.

I doubt it. For the most part, the talent simply isn't there for NCAA teams.

Originally Posted by Vulcan

Top talent difference, I'd probably give the edge to the CHL but that could change as the US now has almost as many registered hockey players as Canada has. Than again a lot of the US players are choosing the CHL so development choices are a very individual subject.

Yep. The problem facing the NCAA right now is that they have been losing a lot of their top incoming freshmen to the CHL. Of course, things can change quickly. Moving back the UFA age would help. But right now, there has been a significant talent loss the past few years.

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[Rerun]

Can we sticky this link to Jankowski's stats this season?

http://www.friars.com/sports/m-hocke....html#TEAM.OCF

I'd like to be able to keep track of how he's doing this year, but I know if its not stickied I'll never find it again.

Same goes for our other top prospects too, I guess.

Would be really helpful. Thanks

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Rerun

Can we sticky this link to Jankowski's stats this season?

http://www.friars.com/sports/m-hocke....html#TEAM.OCF

I'd like to be able to keep track of how he's doing this year, but I know if its not stickied I'll never find it again.

Same goes for our other top prospects too, I guess.

Would be really helpful. Thanks

Hmmmm I wonder if someone's ever thought of that idea.

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=120186

Bookmark this thread.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Hmmmm I wonder if someone's ever thought of that idea.

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=120186

Bookmark this thread.

Thanks. I didn't realize the OP had links to each individual player's stats during the current season. Thats great!!

Thanks FDW for the heads up and PMM for all the links!!!

[dying4acup]

A point brought up at draft time was that Jankowski was days away from being available in the 2013 draft as opposed to 2012. Obviously, at this point mackinnon, jones and Barkov are far ahead of the pack. At this point I'd slot Jankowski there. Obviously I've got homer goggles. Anybody else have input? (like I have to ask!)

[nik-]

Originally Posted by dying4acup

A point brought up at draft time was that Jankowski was days away from being available in the 2013 draft as opposed to 2012. Obviously, at this point mackinnon, jones and Barkov are far ahead of the pack. At this point I'd slot Jankowski there. Obviously I've got homer goggles. Anybody else have input? (like I have to ask!)

Yeah, that's pretty major homer glasses. We need to see how Jankowski does this year before we even start to approach comparisons to the top guys in this draft. It's extremely likely he won't be there.

[Robbob]

Yeah I think it is a bit (being kind) of reach putting him in that category. I would have to think if he was in this draft he would probably be drafted at the same number unless he falls flat in the NCAA. If that was the case he would drop out of the first.

[BACKCHECK!!!]

It will be great if Jankowski becomes a regular in the NHL some day.

The younger a draftee, the bigger chance he's going to be a bust. And Jankowski was about as young as you get in the draft.

He also has a very dubious pedigree (ie never played in a high-level league), and will require huge advances in both skill and size.

He is probably one of this year's first rounders most likely to bust.

[Reanimate]

Originally Posted by BACKCHECK!!!

It will be great if Jankowski becomes a regular in the NHL some day.

The younger a draftee, the bigger chance he's going to be a bust. And Jankowski was about as young as you get in the draft.

He also has a very dubious pedigree (ie never played in a high-level league), and will require huge advances in both skill and size.

He is probably one of this year's first rounders most likely to bust.

Huh? You got numbers to back up that silly statement?

[Vulcan]

Here's an article that may not have been posted and some twitter responses from when he was drafted.

The shocking selection of Jankowski, an unknown commodity who was completely off the charts of most fans and even many of the experts, sent Twitter into overdrive with some of the funniest tweets of the night.
“Mark Jankowski and Jay Feaster look like the number 10 standing side-by-side,” one wrote, referring to the teen’s incredibly slim build and the general manager’s more-generous proportions.
“By the time Jankowski is 21 years old, he’ll be 8-foot-9,” wrote another, having a little fun at TSN’s numerous retellings of how much the 17-year-old has grown in the past couple years.

http://www.thespec.com/sports/local/...d-of-nhl-draft

[blankall]

Originally Posted by fotze

Some studies show that being born earlier in the year is better for development. I know this isn't really what he was saying about bust, but is related a bit and is interesting.

The problem is a developmental one. The late bloomers will fall further behind. The best kids get selected for the best teams. Those teams play more, get access to better coaching, better opportunities and so forth.

http://ingoalmag.com/science/want-to...your-birthday/


http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/1...40410600908001

Abstract



The aim of this study was to examine the relationships among biological maturity, physical size, relative age (i.e. birth date), and selection into a male Canadian provincial age-banded ice hockey team. In 2003, 619 male ice hockey players aged 14 – 15 years attended Saskatchewan provincial team selection camps, 281 of whom participated in the present study. Data from 93 age-matched controls were obtained from the Saskatchewan Pediatric Bone Mineral Accrual Study (1991 – 1997). During the initial selection camps, birth dates, heights, sitting heights, and body masses were recorded. Age at peak height velocity, an indicator of biological maturity, was determined in the controls and predicted in the ice hockey players. Data were analysed using one-way analysis of variance, logistic regression, and a Kolmogorov-Smirnov test. The ice hockey players selected for the final team were taller, heavier, and more mature (P < 0.05) than both the unselected players and the age-matched controls. Furthermore, age at peak height velocity predicted (P < 0.05) being selected at the first and second selection camps. The birth dates of those players selected for the team were positively skewed, with the majority of those selected being born in the months January to June. In conclusion, team selectors appear to preferentially select early maturing male ice hockey players who have birth dates early in the selection year.

You misinterpreting what the article is trying to say.

The article says that people who have earlier birth dates are less likely to succeed in sports because they will be less mature than the people they are competing against. Therefore, even at a young age, they will be given less opportunity and advantage due to the false perception that they are smaller and weaker than their contemporaries. In reality, they're just younger.

If an athlete has gotten to the draft and development stage, it's arguable that a younger athlete is less likely to be a bust as they have more room to mature.

That being said, the younger an athlete is at the drafting stage, the more you rely on potential and the less you rely on what is proven at an adult level. Jankowski is high risk/high reward, but I don't think that's a shocking revelation for anyone.